The End For The Kings And Queens Of Haute Couture?

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Is this the end for the kings and queens of haute couture?

Cash constraints prompt designers to give up on fashion's exclusive tier, reducing grand week to two-and-a-half days

Jess Cartner-Morley, fashion editor, in Paris
Wednesday July 7, 2004
The Guardian


When Yves Saint Laurent retired his business partner Pierre Berge, he predicted that haute couture, the most expensive and exclusive tier of fashion, where dresses are handmade and cost upwards of £10,000, would die without him. His words, dismissed at the time as sour grapes, now seem prophetic.

Just 18 months after Saint Laurent's last show, the Paris couture season, which began yesterday, has dwindled from a grand week to a scant two-and-a-half days. Versace, Givenchy and Ungaro are all notable for their absence this season; Balmain, Nina Ricci, Paco Rabanne and Louis Feraud have already bowed out.

The Japanese designer Hanae Mori, 78, has announced that her show tomorrow night will be her last and that her couture line will then close; it is rumoured that Valentino, who is 72 and has no obvious successor, may bow out in the near future.

And like a rat deserting a sinking ship, Yohji Yamamoto, who in recent years has piggybacked the haute couture season, taking advantage of the presence of the international media in Paris to display his ready-to-wear line, has switched the date of his show from this week to October, and the better-attended ready-to-wear shows.

The couture businesses of lauded designers including Christian Lacroix and Jean-Paul Gaultier - the man hailed as the successor to Saint Laurent, who now holds his prestigious closing slot - are known to be under increasing financial pressure.

Old-fashioned is perhaps the politest way to describe haute couture. Many prefer archaic.

Announcing his decision to quit, the designer Emanuel Ungaro, a great couturier who trained under Cristobal Balenciaga, declared that haute couture "no longer answers, as before, to the tastes of contemporary women".

Price tags are at least 10 times that of Bond Street designer labels; each piece requires a number of fittings and takes several months to make. No change to traditional dressmaking methods is countenanced - zippers, for example, are banned. There are, at a generous estimate, only 300 women in the world who buy couture clothes, and few of those are young.

However, it would be premature to declare couture dead as long as John Galliano, who yesterday presented his haute couture collection for Christian Dior, is on the scene.

Over a thousand people yesterday packed a marquee in the Bois de Boulogne to watch an electrifying bootleg of styles: pneumatic corsets inspired by Zsa Zsa Gabor and the pin-up girls of the 1950s were clad in ermines, velvets and plush silks inspired by traditional royal portraits and intricately handpainted and embroidered with designs inspired by classic Sevres porcelain and Fabergé eggs.

It is hard to envisage Oprah Winfrey, or any of the other high-achieving modern women in front row, wearing a Wedgwood blue ballgown which combined the ultra feminine bustiness of Dangerous Liaisons with stately, billowing cloaks reminiscent of Henry VIII.

But no matter - Sidney Toledano, CEO of Christian Dior, recently told Le Figaro newspaper that the purpose of the Dior couture shows, which cost the company €2m (£1.3m) each season, are "to stamp our mark on the media" :rolleyes: - the shows are attended by 180 photographers and images beamed around the world. He compares couture week, a small event with a global profile, to Cannes film festival.

Undoubtedly, haute couture currently enjoys vast publicity. The current cover of American Vogue shows Nicole Kidman wearing Christian Lacroix haute couture, and it has become a staple of the red carpet, favoured for its uniqueness by actresses who are petrified of being cheated of publicity because they are wearing the same dress as a colleague or a rival.

Chanel haute couture has become a popular choice at the Oscars, and was worn at Cannes by Diane Kruger at the premiere of Troy, in which she played Helen, the most beautiful woman in the world.

Donald Potard, president of Jean-Paul Gaultier, has tentatively suggested a way to modernise and so rescue haute couture. Mr Potard has floated the idea of a halfway house between couture and ready-to-wear - outfits would be displayed in stores (which haute couture is not) but then be made to order, albeit with one fitting rather than three or four.

A similar "hybrid" idea is being considered at the house of Emanuel Ungaro.

This is not a solution that will please the purists but it may be the only way to keep couture alive.

something similar was also posted here (regarding jpg's "semi-couture") but i found this article very interesting and informative :flower:
 
interesting...thx brian...

i'm definitely for a couture hybrid... :flower:
 
What obscenity.

Ungaro is not showing couture due to the parent company, Salvatore Ferragamo, wishing to reduce finances. Givenchy is not shwoing due to the absence of a head designer, i.e. Julian McDonald.

Isn't Carven an exclsuively couture house?
 
Great article. Thanks for posting it. :flower: I found another article on a similar vein:

Independent UK

Couture goes out of fashion

Women who spend their fortunes on frocks and their free time at fittings are a dying breed. So what does this mean for the great fashion houses of Paris? Susannah Frankel reports
07 July 2004


As some of the world's most wealthy women flew into Paris for the opening of the haute-couture collections yesterday, there was speculation as to how much longer this most archaic of craftforms can survive. How much longer will the fashion houses find buyers willing to pay thousands for bespoke dresses, meticulously made by a small army of craftspeople in France, with the most oppulent of finishes?

True, anyone well versed in the workings of the fashion industry will know that this is something of a seasonal concern and one that stretches back over more than 50 years. But ever since Yves Saint Laurent's partner Pierre Bergé announced at the end of the Nineties that the couture would die when his friend stepped down, the debate has gone into overdrive.

In May this year, the speculation increased. Two of couture's most eminent names - Versace and Ungaro - dropped off a schedule that has already lost Thierry Mugler, Louis Feraud, Lanvin, Nina Ricci and, of course, Saint Laurent himself in the past two years. Add to this the fact that Givenchy will not be showing this week either - until the powers that be at the house have found a replacement for Julien Macdonald it will arrange appointments with selected clients behind closed doors - and the number of internationally recognised names remaining is no more than a handful.

And so the schedule, which formerly stretched over five days - admittedly strategically thought-out to include gaps long enough to enable the wealthy buyers to have their hair blow-dried and fit in a long, if invariably light, lunch in between shows - has shrunk back to a mere three. It's hardly worth the effort, some might say.

"If the house decides to not make couture collections any more, I regret it, of course," M Ungaro, 71, and among the world's last great couturiers, told American fashion-trade paper Women's Wear Daily when his label's decision not to show was first announced. "But it's the law of the métier. I'm not nostalgic. I'm not sad. But we have to live faster and we are reflecting on a new way to do things. The modern way of living does not allow us to make a show, present the prototypes, order the fabrics, wait for the delivery and then have clients come for three fittings."

Instead, the house he founded aims to create a new hybrid line between haute couture and the less exclusive ready-to-wear which it will deliver at speed to clients right across the world.

Unsurprisingly, there are those who disagree with this viewpoint. It is, after all, no secret that Ungaro - and indeed Versace - has faced considerable financial difficulties over the past year or two following a worldwide recession sparked off by the attack on the World Trade Center in New York and further aggravated by the war in Iraq. The decision of both not to show is clearly at least in part a cost-cutting exercise - a couture show costs in the region of $3m to produce.

The fashion megabrands, however - in particular the mighty Christian Dior and Chanel - insist that there are still more than enough women willing and able to part with tens of thousands of pounds for a single garment, so long as it is hand-beaded and embroidered by the world's most accomplished craftspeople and tailored to suit the client's every idiosyncratic curve. In fact, according to both companies, although there are thought to be no more than around 2,000 couture clients left in the world, business is booming.

Anyone wishing to invest in a Christian Dior haute-couture outfit will face a wait of three to four months and be required to pay around £65,000 for a wedding dress. Prices for a more simple day suit, for example, are thought to be in the region of £17,000. Houses are notoriously unwilling to disclose the precise cost of a garment. Their clients' would find the release of any such information indiscreet to the point of offensive. Part of the justification for such high prices - the cost of labour and materials aside - is the fact that only a handful of any model will ever be made and exclusivity is therefore assured. Whichever way you choose to look at it, to most people, these figures are ludicrously inflated.

Despite this, and even though many of the world's most well-dressed women are happy to shop on the high street in this day and age, haute-couture is still alive and kicking if Dior designer John Galliano's front row yesterday was anything to go by. Oprah Winfrey was just one of many monied potential customers to attend alongside no less than 800 members of the international press.

British-born Galliano was brought in to revitalise a flagging couture climate in the mid-Nineties. With Alexander McQueen, then at Givenchy, and Jean-Paul Gaultier who opened his couture atelier in 1997, Galliano was charged with taking the craft forward into the 21st century. Certainly, in his hands, its function has changed immeasurably. While formerly collections were shown in intimate salons filled with rows of tiny gilt chairs and to an audience of no more than a few hundred, Galliano introduced the notion of the haute-couture show as stadium blockbuster, showing to as many as 2,000 people at one time and driving home the message that although couture is ultimately designed to cater only to the privileged few it is also the most effective of all marketing tools.

Yesterday, once again, the skirts of his dresses were so overblown they threatened to take the front row with them as they went past. Models were helped off the catwalk by as many as four besuited Dior attendants at a time: their clothes so tight-fitting and their shoes so high they would never have made it on their own. The extravagant and often extreme nature of such designs notwithstanding, sales right across the house and including the haute couture continue to rise, up 8 per cent to $162.2m in the first quarter of this year. Galliano's message is clear. At Christian Dior you'll find the biggest, brightest, boldest, dresses in the world and it is the haute couture that best exemplifies the fact.

"The impact [of couture] is huge on people worldwide," Dior president Sidney Toledano said last week. "It's our difference in the face of competition. I am convinced that couture is giving us an edge. It creates the magic of the brand." The company recently broadcast scenes from couture shows on massive television screens in Hong Kong to promote a new store there, China being the object of every global brand's attention just now. The show unveiled in Paris yesterday, meanwhile, is due to be shown again in Tokyo in September to celebrate the launch of another Dior flagship there.

Chanel, with Dior the most powerful French brand of all and which shows later today, is equally committed to haute couture - so much so that it is currently buying up some of the craftform's most respected ateliers - or workshops - including master embroiderer Lesage and couture shoe-maker Massaro. Chanel president Francoise Montenay has been quick to point out that they were unlikely to have done so only to shut them down a couple of years later.

"Chanel has a real clientele and that is and was the first reason for couture to exist," that label's designer Karl Lagerfeld told WWD. "It was created for women and their lives - privileged lives." Mr Lagerfeld's haute-couture designs have also been seen on more than their fair share of red carpets in recent years, most famously worn by Nicole Kidman - now the new face of Chanel's best-selling fragrance No 5. In fact, it was the impossibly lithe Ms Kidman who started the vogue for contemporary movie stars to wear haute couture as opposed to ready-to-wear at the Oscars when she first stepped out in Dior haute couture seven years ago.

Over at Valentino, which showed yesterday evening, and where the house's founder rose to fame dressing the likes of the young Elizabeth Taylor and Jackie Onassis, they know the value of celebrity endorsement only too well. Giancarlo Giammetti, Valentino's business partner, said: "We can really justify our luxury positioning because of couture." He pointed out that when Julia Roberts wore vintage Valentino to the Oscars in 2002, interest in the brand increased significantly. "That's an example of how one dress can make a really important impact," Giametti said. "The return from celebrities wearing your clothes is huge."

Valentino is now in his Seventies and has no obvious successor - another reason to wonder what the future of this most elitist of craftforms might be. With this in mind, it's small wonder that France's most famous fashion name, Jean-Paul Gaultier, is being paraded as being at the forefront of contemporary haute couture. French-born (which in Paris counts considerably in his favour) and trained in the traditional manner under the greats including Pierre Cardin, to those in the know, it is Gaultier, if anyone, who is Yves Saint Laurent's natural heir. It is for this reason that he is honoured with the haute couture's closing slot. His show takes place at lunchtime on Thursday.

Gaultier, famously a man who speaks his mind in an increasingly opaque world, said last month: "Economically [haute couture] is a disaster. It's the purest form of what I do, but there are so few clients, because they are all getting old and dying, no? So I'm glad to be part of the decadence of it, because it's finishing. It's the end."

ANATOMY OF A COUTURE DRESS

By Susie Rushton

So just what does the pampered couture customer get for a five-digit price tag? More than a posh frock. A dress such as the one above, designed by Karl Lagerfeld (below) at Chanel for this summer's couture collection, will require between 200 and 250 hours of work. Forget production lines: a single craftsperson will hand-sew the garment from start to finish.

And if there's call for extra embellishment, Chanel call upon the specialist workshops such as Lesage, where embroidery artworks are stitched on to couture gowns. This can add another 1,000 hours to the job.

Francoise Montenay, president of Chanel, said last year: "Haute couture is the licence to use everything, the most expensive materials or the most complicated fabrics that you can only cut in a certain way."

Clients can of course expect a perfect fit. The standard dress sizes used in ready-to-wear fashion become irrelevant when a frock is adjusted to the millimetre.

The garment will be personalised in a minimum of three appointments, each held at one of the grand salons in Paris, which alter the original design in order to flatter Madame's figure. Couture acts like plastic surgery, concealing sloping shoulders and a less-than-slender waist.

A client won't spot anybody else wearing her dress, either. Rarely are more than four copies of a design created worldwide. And should she ever need to have her costly dress repaired or adjusted, it will be returned to the same craftsperson who created it.

The Manhattan society ladies who regularly buy haute-couture know they can order as much or as little extra decoration as they wish. More ostrich feathers, Madame? Beads, embroidery, sequins? This is where the prices, always astronomical but strictly confidential, really begin to rocket.
6 July 2004 22:43
 
i want to know what goes into a two MILLION dollar show? i mean i understand that price tag for some of his shows, but outside of the models and venue what could possibly raise the price by that much? am i just naive or does this not sound like a lot of money...for one show?
 
well remember venue's cost a lot of money

then think of all the technical people

security

ELECTRICITY

you have to pay anyone who does anything........down to the person who chooses the colour on the invitations
 
Originally posted by Acid@Jul 7th, 2004 - 7:34 pm
well remember venue's cost a lot of money

then think of all the technical people

security

ELECTRICITY

you have to pay anyone who does anything........down to the person who chooses the colour on the invitations
And ofcourse the work on the dresses costed lots and lots of money...also the people from the atelier who work on one dress for more then 100 hours....and ofcourse the expensive jewelry that is designed especially for the show, e.g. the Dior show...how much moneu thise crowns, rings and necklaces would have costed....Not to mention the paycheck for Karolina and friends.....
 
yes Mr. Dale but that 2 milllion euros is JUST for the show

not including the clothes :wink:
 
Originally posted by Acid@Jul 7th, 2004 - 10:00 pm
yes Mr. Dale but that 2 milllion euros is JUST for the show

not including the clothes :wink:
Really? WOW....then it really is alot....but the models payckecks still count then or don't they?
 
Originally posted by Acid@Jul 7th, 2004 - 3:00 pm
yes Mr. Dale but that 2 milllion euros is JUST for the show

not including the clothes :wink:
no...acid...i think the cost of the samples is factored into the cost of the show...

it HAS to be ...even if the venue cost $20,000 and each model gets $10,000...you're still nowhere near that total figure...
 
Fashion's latest victim - the haute couture show

AVRIL GROOM
The Scotsman


IT’S ENOUGH to make Coco Chanel turn in her grave. Just three decades after the queen of chic stalked off to the great cat-walk in the sky, haute couture is following hot on her heels.

A mere nine couture collections were unveiled at the Paris fashion show this week - less than half the number that exhibited in the French capital in 1987. And for those who love the exclusivity of the twice-yearly event which offers them one-off handmade designs costing up to £300,000 a throw, things are about to get worse.

Threatened with extinction, couture is fighting back by embracing its antithesis - mass market appeal. In a move which has ruffled the feathered trims on the front rows of Paris Fashion Week, the event which epitomises the height of global chic faces a redesign as the decidedly downmarket Luxury Week. This notion comes not from some upstart outsider, keen to do a little upmarket asset stripping of an industry in its death throes. Rather, it is none other than the houses of Chanel and Dior, two of couture’s leading lights, suggesting that reinvention is the only route to resurgence.

The acknowledgement that couture as we know it has an increasingly small place in the 21st century came at a meeting of the Federation Française de la Couture, high fashion’s ruling body, shortly before Paris Fashion Week began on Tuesday. Françoise de Montenay, the president of Chanel, and Sidney Toledano, the president of Dior, came up with the idea of transforming the fading couture event into a luxury fashion week, their plan being to cast the net wide to include luxury leather goods, watches, shoes and top-of-the-range jewellery, all crafted in France.

De Montenay says such a format would be a celebration of the Parisian "savoir-faire of our unique artisans and the beautiful things they make. This could be an Hermès saddle or hand-made chocolates as well as a couture dress".

Fashionistas would no doubt talk of it as an artisanale showcase. Those of us who shop at Marks & Spencer - especially for chocolate - might describe it as a trade fair. But it seems haute couture has decided it must metamorphose or die.

This week’s news may be the strongest public admission yet that the underwiring of Paris Fashion Week is in danger of snapping, but those in the know are aware that couture has been in crisis for some time. Whereas prêt-à-porter garments are manufactured in multiples, in standard sizes and sold ready-to-wear "off the rack", a haute couture piece of clothing is a truly unique design which is sold directly to one private client and custom-made to her specific measurements in a series of fittings. Consequently a woman’s haute couture suit can start at around £15,000, while an ornate evening gown can cost a staggering £300,000.

A number of factors have gathered to sound the death knell of the industry. Key to its troubles is the belief that the number of remaining haute couture clients stands at around just 300 worldwide - mainly the wives of rich businessmen whose financial wizardry seems to have by-passed their partner’s clothing accounts. In addition, spending habits are changing. Fashion insiders say the latest generation of moneyed people are used to instant gratification and do not relish the three-month wait couture entails.

Another aggravating factor is that many fashion houses now offer a small selection of top-quality ready-to-wear items to their collections which are a bit cheaper than their haute couture siblings but still find favour with the rich and beautiful people when it comes to film premieres. However, this top-of-the-food-chain ready-to-wear is almost at couture prices. As Arnaud Lemarie, whose family firm - now owned by Chanel - has supplied feather trims to generations of couturiers, explains: "Top-level ready-to-wear is now as expensive as couture was 20 years ago, and people really don’t want to spend more than that."

Thus in recent years, the fortunes of haute couture have wasted away faster than a super-model on a starvation diet. This year, only nine have turned out to show their collections: Christian Dior, Chanel, Jean-Paul Gaultier, Christian Lacroix, Jean-Louis Scherrer, Dominique Sirop, Torrente, Hanae Mori and the Italian designer Valentino.

In the past decade, big names such as Yves Saint Laurent, Thierry Mugler, Louis Feraud, Lanvin and Nina Ricci have stopped making haute couture, while this summer, for the first time, French label Emmanuel Ungaro and Italian designer Versace announced that they had closed down their couture workshops to concentrate on ready-to-wear lines. Heavyweight Balmain, in delicate financial circumstances, is also absent from the shows, and Givenchy, currently without a designer after the departure of Julien MacDonald, will show to clients, but not journalists. This season will also be the last for Japanese couturier Hanae Mori, a rare foreigner in the ranks, who is retiring at the age of 78 after 50 years in fashion.

Paris, the city which taught the world about style, is witnessing the death of one of its most beautiful creations. Those who prefer Primark to Prada might wonder if it really matters that a few over-priced frocks will never be made. But anyone who witnessed Dior’s stunning show of 50 over-the-top evening dresses sashaying down the cat-walk in Paris this week will understand why fashionistas are weeping.

Dior’s tiara-topped collection was adorned with beading, embroidery, crystal, hand-painting and corsetry in a truly dazzling display worthy of a couture community which realises it is stitching for its life. "We have to ensure that couture and the crafts it entails continue," explains Toledano, in his defence of the skills which some see as frivolous, but which others adore as a form of art. "It’s the only way for the French to succeed, the only thing that makes us different."

The preserving of traditional skills aside, Toledano points out that couture is just one slice of the fashion cake and whatever their cost, the ludicrous creations can be worth their weight in gold - especially once the cat-walk photographs hit the press. "The pictures are seen by millions, so raise the profile for all the other things - ready-to-wear, accessories, perfumes - that we sell far more of," he says. "We took Galliano on eight years ago for his imagination. That can only be fully expressed in the complete design freedom of couture. This [couture] is where he finds the ideas that get worked down into practical clothes and accessories. Since Galliano joined us our turnover has tripled, so couture is not wasting our money. It’s the same business model as in other areas of luxury goods - there is plenty of ordinary champagne but the drink’s reputation rests on the heritage of premium brands such as Dom Perignon."

BUT THESE premier brands can not exist alone. At Chanel, De Montenay says couture there is booming: "We employ 120 people in our workrooms and we gained about 60 of St Laurent’s clients when they stopped. Each season, we also get about 30 new clients who want one special outfit, maybe for a wedding or a ball. Something that will be unique and that they won’t see on other women."

Nevertheless, De Montenay is in the vanguard of change, with a vision of Luxury Week which could see anyone with a few hundred quid spare to spend on a hand-bag claim a part of Paris Fashion Week as their own.

No dates are set, but her idea is gathering support from other top fashion houses. Christian Lacroix says fashion has to face facts. "Couture is the heart of the house but we have to face reality - it cannot exist without customers." He adds that even the crème de la crème of fashion now needs a "better, more clever way to show what is a modern industry, not a museum piece".

As Paris Fashion Week enters its third and final day today, the fashion community will say its farewells to haute couture knowing it may never see its likes again. What Madame Chanel would have said, one shudders to think.
 
well...

it's the end of the (fashion) world as we know it... :o :doh:

:cry: :ninja:
 
Originally posted by mikeijames@Jul 7th, 2004 - 12:20 pm
i want to know what goes into a two MILLION dollar show? i mean i understand that price tag for some of his shows, but outside of the models and venue what could possibly raise the price by that much? am i just naive or does this not sound like a lot of money...for one show?
Well, this is general breakdown of the cost of a fashion show:

01) Venue
02) Models
03) Lights
04) Music/ Sound
05) Stage
06) Props/ Decor
08) Food/ Cocktail
09) Press Releases/ Invites
10) Help (Stage hands/ Crew/ Dressers/ Co-odinators/ Waiters/ Users/ Event Organizer/ PR Company/ Choreographer/ Make-up & Hair (tho this may come free) etc.etc.etc. :( someone gotta pay these people

A typical fashion show cost about 10K-30K... But when it comes to a show like Dior where quality and image is EVERYTHING... The stakes are higher and thus more money is lavished on such shows...
 
Originally posted by h_bazaar+Jul 7th, 2004 - 11:29 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (h_bazaar @ Jul 7th, 2004 - 11:29 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mikeijames@Jul 7th, 2004 - 12:20 pm
i want to know what goes into a two MILLION dollar show?  i mean i understand that price tag for some of his shows, but outside of the models and venue what could possibly raise the price by that much?  am i just naive or does this not sound like a lot of money...for one show?
Well, this is general breakdown of the cost of a fashion show:

01) Venue
02) Models
03) Lights
04) Music/ Sound
05) Stage
06) Props/ Decor
08) Food/ Cocktail
09) Press Releases/ Invites
10) Help (Stage hands/ Crew/ Dressers/ Co-odinators/ Waiters/ Users/ Event Organizer/ PR Company/ Choreographer/ Make-up & Hair (tho this may come free) etc.etc.etc. :( someone gotta pay these people

A typical fashion show cost about 10K-30K... But when it comes to a show like Dior where quality and image is EVERYTHING... The stakes are higher and thus more money is lavished on such shows... [/b][/quote]
isn't the cost of the samples part of the bottom line...?...
 
Originally posted by softgrey+Jul 7th, 2004 - 11:39 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (softgrey @ Jul 7th, 2004 - 11:39 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by h_bazaar@Jul 7th, 2004 - 11:29 pm
<!--QuoteBegin-mikeijames
@Jul 7th, 2004 - 12:20 pm
i want to know what goes into a two MILLION dollar show?  i mean i understand that price tag for some of his shows, but outside of the models and venue what could possibly raise the price by that much?  am i just naive or does this not sound like a lot of money...for one show?

Well, this is general breakdown of the cost of a fashion show:

01) Venue
02) Models
03) Lights
04) Music/ Sound
05) Stage
06) Props/ Decor
08) Food/ Cocktail
09) Press Releases/ Invites
10) Help (Stage hands/ Crew/ Dressers/ Co-odinators/ Waiters/ Users/ Event Organizer/ PR Company/ Choreographer/ Make-up & Hair (tho this may come free) etc.etc.etc. :( someone gotta pay these people

A typical fashion show cost about 10K-30K... But when it comes to a show like Dior where quality and image is EVERYTHING... The stakes are higher and thus more money is lavished on such shows...
isn't the cost of the samples part of the bottom line...?... [/b][/quote]
i hope it's the cost of the sample and that they are writing off the production of his designs as part of the show...i didn't think that's how most houses budgeted that expense, but i guess it works... :unsure:
 
This whole thing about Haute Couture dying is stupid. Of course it is going to die when A) they rarely let any other brands enter the market and become legit haute couture producers and B) these brands keep producing dated clothes based on an idealology that is from a bygone era (ahem *chanel*). There are a lot of designers who create "haute couture" style clothes made for a specific client and made to measure just for them. They just don't get any recognition. And really, who wants to spend 300,000 pounds for a dress that their grandmother would have worn? Haute Couture needs new blood. Tara Subkoff had interest in the industry and she had some really good ideas as much as people laughed at her. It's people like her who can save it.
 
So if Dior spends approx 2mil Euros on a single haute couture show.. then where does all the money come from to break even again?? People say accessories such as perfume, bags, skin care products etc etc.. but if u think about selling 2mil Euros of Dior accesories.. how long would this take to achieve this break even.?? it should realistically be before the next dior haute couture show and so they're not running on debt.. hmmm.. its so confusing :huh:
 
Dear God Tara Subkoff in haute couture?

Even in Imitation of Christ I only found that military hat worn by Chloe attractive.

I think it's people being too cheap, and "pragmatic." One should know that in a very broad general statement that spending encourages economy.

What's Primark?
 

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