Tom Ford's Heirs

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  1. kit

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  2. Lena

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    its up since very early in wwd,
    does it take only assistants to replace Tom? :ninja:

    but then, of course, they were doing all the work...

    good luck to all three of them on their new posts :flower:

    here main extracts from kit's link ;)

     
  3. kit

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    Agreed in EVERY way , LENA :heart:

    Only time will tell...............

    KIT :innocent:
     
  4. faust

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    Bad mistake on the part of Gucci. They needed a brand name. Granted, it was these designers that made all the clothes - also granted that the clothes was bought because Ford's name was behind it, not because it was great fashion. Oh, well - short Gucci stock!!!
     
  5. softgrey

    softgrey flaunt the imperfection

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    i'm sure they come a lot cheaper than some big name B) and good for them...i'm sure they've been slaving away over there, coming up with tons of ideas that tom ford took all the credit for..so i'm glad they got promoted...most of the time in this industry, you have to leave to get a better job...it's nice to see a company promote from within it's ranks... :flower:

    and i don't think we need a 'figurehead'...if the clothes are good enough, they will speak for themselves!!! :innocent:
     
  6. marc jacobs addict

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    here's the WWD article:

     
  7. Lena

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    i agree with you softgrey,
    still its Gucci's last slap at Tom's uber ego... if you get my point :innocent:
     
  8. softgrey

    softgrey flaunt the imperfection

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    i'm with you lena... :p take that, tom ford-you egomaniac...HA! :lol:
     
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    So true! Let the clothes speak for a change... :innocent:
     
  10. Jentlemen

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    i like how it takes three people to replace Tom Ford :lol:
     
  11. marc jacobs addict

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    :lol:
     
  12. Orochian

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    I think it's always a good idea to promote within, since, as many of you have pointed out already, they are the ones most familiar with Tom's work and have contributed a fair share to it themselves. A smooth transition is always a good thing - lots of people, myself included, are still down in the drains about Tom's departure.

    Its only downside is the lack of hype and buzz - but Gucci doesn't need that. It isn't LVMH, afterall. :innocent:
     
  13. ignitioned32

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    I think they would only be promoted if they did most-if not all- of the work. I'm sure Tom was just there to attract clients and, mostly, marketing. I am happy for them. :woot:

    I agree though, as said above, that the downside is there will be a lack of hype and buzz, important for a brand like Gucci. But I'm sure the clothes will be able to change that, in the coming seasons.
     
  14. e-Tom

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    egomaniac ?????? :angry: WOAHH

    AFTER READ HIS INTERVIEW WITH " WWD " HE DOSEN'T SEEM TO ME AS
    " EGOMANIAC "
    I THINK THERE LESSONS TO TAKE FROM MR.FORD HIMSELF :king:

    TF : Quite honestly, I wasn’t amused, I was shocked. Unfortunately, I think that this is a very sort of clear indication of how naïve Serge is about our industry. Miuccia has a point of view, a vision with a purpose. Not only am I a great fan of what she does from a design standpoint, but a great fan in terms of the way she has been able to pinpoint her vision with Prada.
    Which is also why, I have to say, I don’t quite understand a team strategy at Gucci. First of all, we have left out a few product categories here. I mean, what’s happening with watches, what’s happening with eyewear? What’s happening with jewelry, with home, with visual display? What’s happening with the ad campaigns? I mean, there are a lot of things that aren’t addressed by the people whose names have been mentioned.

    TF: They’re still buying the point of view. And there are a lot of people who buy Gucci who don’t know who I am. That isn’t the point. There is a point of view, there is a focus, and that’s what comes from the designer.

    LESSON 4 CHAPTER 1CONTINUES WWD TOM FORD ARTICLE

    " ATALLIER " :angel: thanks for the thread ,
     
  15. Orochian

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    I think we all have MANY lessons to take from Mr. Ford. And if there's anyone in the industry that's the antithesis to being an egomaniac, it's him. Which is remarkable considering just how much he's managed to accomplish at 42.

    I'll leave it at that. I have a lot of thoughts after reading his interview, and I find myself marvelling at just how "right" he is on every issue and every facet of the business, but I'll refrain from elaborating any further. It seems that with his departure, running him down suddenly has become a very chic thing to do, and I certainly don't look forward to participating in an all-out flame war. :ninja:
     
  16. Lena

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    i dont get how Ford attacks the Gucci product developement since until now he was responsible for it's fate.
    he HAD control over the firm and its only when his control was questioned by PPR that he decided to leave the company.
    he's wondering on
    leaves me open mouthed, he was the one to orchestrate all those things mentioned, and he sure was head master on the advertising look for Gucci.

    btw, the wwd interview is VERY interesting, and yes, he's a good - a very good- brand manager, i dont think anyone ever objected that.
    people are not bashing him since the news of his departure,
    on the contrary, he's somehow turning to the Jean D'Ark of fashion..
    he is more 'famous' than ever, just for saying 'no' to the PPR people.

    he's a true genious of PR :lol:
     
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    He's referring to the splitting of the creative responsibilities into the 3 seperate designers, instead of one single chief at the helm of everything, which happened AFTER his departure, and a decision to which he has made no contribution. He had been grooming the very same people before his deal with PPR fell through, but I'm sure what he had in mind was to have ONE of those designers take over as creative director when he would step down from that post. He has always stressed the utmost importance to have a coherent vision and design terminology, or "point of view" in his words, in the management of a brand.

    He is now objecting to the splitting of responsibilities and creative control, and the numerous facets of the brand's production which are being neglected as a result of the split. Which is totally understandable since a tight grip on the overall aesthetic was what pulled Gucci out of its grave and made it the most successful luxury goods company of our time. Without that grip, and Gucci would be another Dior - a schizophrenic, headless, soul-less, vision-less giant factory of logoed souvenirs.
     
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    my sentiments exactly, WE don't need a figure head, THEY do, and the clothes HAVEN'T spoken for theselves - so they needed the figure head to push the mute clothes :lol:
     
  20. VersaceW11

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    The Gucci Group has named the three designers from it's current team...Stefano Pilati will be taking charge of YSL Rive Gauche...Alessandra Facchinetti a fromer design director for the past 4 years will be head of the womens dicision...Scttish designer John Ray takes over menswear and Frida Giannini joined Gucci in 2002 will become creative director of accessories...And Giacomo Santucci will take Domenico de Sole spot as CEO.
     

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