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Discussion in 'Designers and Collections' started by classicalbang, Jun 30, 2009.
This is just so...wrong. Not that I can claim to be an expert in vintage Vionnet, but from what I've seen even her most embellished dresses were extremely clean in silhouette. The draping here is just sort of clumsy.
Note to whomever is running the company; beg Rick Owens to take over Vionnet. I honestly think he's the only person who could manage to revitalize the house and make it both salable and exciting.
He destroyed the Grecian dress OY
Honestly not sure who could really do the job at Vionnet. As Spike said "beg" R.O, as talented as he is I wouldn't intrust him to design a collection for Vionnet. Honestly if Elbaz wasn't at Lanvin I wonder what he could do with Vionnet.
I just read that Paglialunga was at Prada for 4 years before being sent to Vionnet.
The 4th dress is beautiful, but he's overworked every single look...
There is no elegance or sensuality....
i agree with you all about this....just too much for a house and legacy which has always been,richly minimal. at least sophia kokosalaki designed within the aesthetics of vionnet.
it's a good time to bring back vionnet (again) given all that draping at balenciaga. i'd like to see more of this resort collection to get a better handle on mr. paglialunga angle on the house.
albert elbaz would be a perfect candidate for the house i reckon ... but i doubt he'll want to leave lanvin anytime soon . okay collection IMO
honestly, my thoughts ran to olivier theyskens....but he's not really committed to draping in the way one would need to helm vionnet. elbaz has a financial stake in lanvin just like ghesquiere does in balenciaga.
Meh, it feels kind of thrown together. One nice piece maybe.
. . Isn't that clutch a blatant knock-off of this Fendi ?
it has a marchesa feel to it and thats not a compliment.just hideous.
it is intensely beautiful, innovative and sellable! i am glad that they chose him to revive the brand!
I agree with dizzytacks, I LOVE the black pieces, you can kind of see where he was coming from a designers point of view, trying to use Vionnet techniques like flat rectangular cutting, but in a way she never did.
It has a look to it, I dont know why people would want ANOTHER 'Lanvin' or ANOTHER 'Rick Owens' when there's a chance for a new perspective. Its challenging but surely thats more exciting than something that already exists?
^ I don't think it's that people want another Lanvin or Owens. I think it's just that Elbaz and Owens are two designers who come to mind when one thinks of designers who have an innate understanding of what it was that Vionnet herself was all about. The two of them take what she stood for and apply it to their own work in a contemporary, individualistic way.
I don't really see what's challenging about this. It's predictable fare, but the technique isn't handled particularly well. When it comes to draping, less is more.
GAHH! My eyes! Overworked, overworked, overworked. It's too much look. I call this Macy attempts to go "designer."
I really like this.
The first dress is quite spectacular; I also like the 5th one. I do not see anything too clumsy here, or even too overworked of that matter. Yes, the belts etc. are prominent, but that is a part of the casual 'resort' feeling the designer intended to maintain I guess. Many women would get a lot of milage from these dresses, plus, there is a level of sensuality injected here to these liquid draping folds that should not be overlooked.
If I were to buy 2nd and 4th looks (the black dresses), I would want those saggy sleeves to be removed from the arms. They look heavy and lumpy even though they are silk. Which is weird and undesirable. Also, the 4th one desperately needs to be shortened - it looks way too matronly to be ever considered acceptable.
But there is still some 'precious' and some 'delicate' in this collection which make these dresses great for a resort set. I am a sucker for belts in general as it is, and these woven overlong leather ones are just sublime to remain indifferent to.
I think whoever designed this had some sort of awesome idea but excuted it all wrong. The random draping is so silly and doesnt support anything.
The second black dress with the bitchy belt is very beautiful though. I see Balenciaga.
There is some awkward draping going on, esp. with the nude dress. It's like he draped all the fabric, and didn't know what to do with the leftover amount, so he just left it hanging.
I'm with a general consensus...It's terribly heavy handed, which is very wrong for Vionnet
I don't even understand why Vionnet's been back .....................
just ridiculous !
leave Vionnet rest in peace and leave her label to the History !
that's so painful ....