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... but vogue is supposed to be high-fashion! xD
Vogue China January 2008 : Lily Donaldson by Patrick Demarchelier
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i still don't understand why Vogue China had opened...
Vogue India for instance has still this something about India... well, at least, I can recognize some clichés... and found into it something that really sticks to their culture....
but the Vogue China... blah... it looks like any other european publications...
it's exactly the same....
I think the fact they're writing in english and chinese on the cover is not that innocent... I mean they actually want to touch people (and chinese mainly) all around the world, making them think they still are in a sort of asian community..... but i'm sorry this IS very european.... there's no chinese identity in this....well i'm not chinese, but that's my opinion....
maybe this is, too, to underline the fact China is becoming one of the most important country (eventhough they are still doing weird things.....) in the world and that globalization is also touching them....
well that's really bad....
I'm not sure something very cliché would be good, but at least a touch of chinese....
just a chinese model doesn't make it sorry....
(and there's even not a chinese girl on the cover.....)
oops, i don't know how to write this in english.....
btw : the Mackenzie's editorial has some amazing shoots... eventhough it's very déjà-vu... I esp. love the one where she's climbing the stairs (?)... her body seems invisible.... it's weird, but i love it.... it's like an optical effect....
Vogue India for instance has still this something about India... well, at least, I can recognize some clichés... and found into it something that really sticks to their culture....
but the Vogue China... blah... it looks like any other european publications...
it's exactly the same....
I think the fact they're writing in english and chinese on the cover is not that innocent... I mean they actually want to touch people (and chinese mainly) all around the world, making them think they still are in a sort of asian community..... but i'm sorry this IS very european.... there's no chinese identity in this....well i'm not chinese, but that's my opinion....
maybe this is, too, to underline the fact China is becoming one of the most important country (eventhough they are still doing weird things.....) in the world and that globalization is also touching them....
well that's really bad....
I'm not sure something very cliché would be good, but at least a touch of chinese....
just a chinese model doesn't make it sorry....
(and there's even not a chinese girl on the cover.....)
oops, i don't know how to write this in english.....
btw : the Mackenzie's editorial has some amazing shoots... eventhough it's very déjà-vu... I esp. love the one where she's climbing the stairs (?)... her body seems invisible.... it's weird, but i love it.... it's like an optical effect....
I don't quite understand why it feeling european is a bad thing
can you explain a bit more? And what could they do to make it have a Chinese identity? 
Well I'd love if they did some location shoots in China.
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^yes well actually that's why I wrote this.... 
shooting in chinese places IS one the thing they could do, for instance...
I mean China is a beautiful country, non?? and a very big one, too... there must be places to shoot all over the country.... and maybe shooting in Paris is not necessary....
when you look at Vogue Hellas, they often shoot (when they don't reprint) in their places... making some references to their country... (remember this amazing story on a typical white house roof next to the sea?)
but my point was more about : what's the point in doing another Vogue that is very european (looking like other europeans fashion mags and developping no identity/personality at all....) and write on it Vogue China????
Where's the chinese (or asian) identity in this??? in the writings? in the places in Beijing they make you want to go...?? mmm pretty poor....
When I look at Vogue India, I can feel something indian in the air....
(look the beautiful story with Sasha by Lindbergh)....
Look at Vogue Russia, they often shoot in their places, too... right? and use all these bright colours and tons of fur.... they created an identity...and now that's how I can see russian fashion (full of colours, of fun, of fur) thanks to Simon Robins, maybe.....
when I look at Vogue China, I see nothing chinese except the writings, I cannot see an identity.... I don't know how is Fashion in China...
and my point was too : China is now almost part of the occidental countries so why bothering doing something like that....
I think it's too late.... I think Conde Nast should published a NEW fashion magazine for Chinese girls and boys but not another Vogue ....
xxxxx
So I don't see the point in doing this...
I'm sorry.......
oh yes... making more money....
shooting in chinese places IS one the thing they could do, for instance...I mean China is a beautiful country, non?? and a very big one, too... there must be places to shoot all over the country.... and maybe shooting in Paris is not necessary....
when you look at Vogue Hellas, they often shoot (when they don't reprint) in their places... making some references to their country... (remember this amazing story on a typical white house roof next to the sea?)
but my point was more about : what's the point in doing another Vogue that is very european (looking like other europeans fashion mags and developping no identity/personality at all....) and write on it Vogue China????
Where's the chinese (or asian) identity in this??? in the writings? in the places in Beijing they make you want to go...?? mmm pretty poor....
When I look at Vogue India, I can feel something indian in the air....
(look the beautiful story with Sasha by Lindbergh)....
Look at Vogue Russia, they often shoot in their places, too... right? and use all these bright colours and tons of fur.... they created an identity...and now that's how I can see russian fashion (full of colours, of fun, of fur) thanks to Simon Robins, maybe.....
when I look at Vogue China, I see nothing chinese except the writings, I cannot see an identity.... I don't know how is Fashion in China...
and my point was too : China is now almost part of the occidental countries so why bothering doing something like that....
I think it's too late.... I think Conde Nast should published a NEW fashion magazine for Chinese girls and boys but not another Vogue ....
xxxxx
So I don't see the point in doing this...
I'm sorry.......
oh yes... making more money....
actually a lot of location shots in Vogue China were did China.
sometimes they chose to shoot overseas, mostly because the photographer(s), stylists...the whole team, and clothes also in some cases, were in that country.
it saves a whole lot money to just send model(s) overseas than to move those ppl/stuff here.
sometimes they chose to shoot overseas, mostly because the photographer(s), stylists...the whole team, and clothes also in some cases, were in that country.
it saves a whole lot money to just send model(s) overseas than to move those ppl/stuff here.
I understand what BerlinRocks is saying, China Vogue is a caricature of the it's American and European counterparts. I don't see problems with using international models or locations, but the only few Asian/Chinese models who get covers are handpicked and the teacher's pets of Angelica Cheung. It's not as bad a Vogue Nippon where there are hardly any Asians, but China unlike Japan has so many models you'd think there is more selection than just Du Juan for a cover!!!!
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many many thanks, alix!.. every single picture in this story is worth a thousand editorials.. it's truly gorgeous. 
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