20 Celebrity Phones Hacked - *Do Not Share Links to Pics*

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  1. Benn98

    Benn98 Well-Known Member

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    Very thought-provocative take from Lena Dunham's Twitter: https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/506357640294064128

    I'm certainly the fence with this one, its not an entirely 'black and white' issue.

    This is getting bigger and bigger by the minute. Because the full list was released there now seems to be a sort of bounty hunt to find more yet to be revealed pics.

    True, the up-and-coming actresses will struggle more than the established girls. There's also a fair amount of models on there! Imo, the culprit's hands should be surgically removed as punishment! I still insist that any hackers whether that be relating to bank fraud , social sites , deliberately effecting other peoples pc's etc should whatever handed they are have that hand surgically removed , 2nd offence other hand off! Because they maybe clever at what they do but to blatantly put yourself out to disrupt lives/society is criminal and twisted.
     
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  2. kokobombon

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    I think people will soon forget about this and all the actresses will be fine... if anything, the less known will become bigger names. Kardashian built an empire, Hilton pretty much the same... sex tapes/pictures are not big deal anymore imo. Specially cause most of those actresses are way more talented than these two.
    Lawrence' s pics have a Terry Richardson vibe with worst lighting imo...
     
  3. Fabulyss

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    This event says a lot about both the way men in our society view women and even the way women view women. This is obviously a violation so I'm not going to get into that but I want to make two points:

    #1 Women have been demanding government action against exactly this sort of thing for years (it's called "revenge porn" and it's all over the internet). It gets my goat that the FBI is suddenly eager to help celebrities, but they never cared before when non-celebrity women were complaining about it (and I guarantee this won't result in new legislation).

    #2 I'm not judging the women taking these photos and I'm most definitely not judging their bodies, but I'm genuinely curious as to why people do this? It's not sexy in the slightest. I see a lot of unflattering lighting, unsexy positions, and messy bedrooms. One actress even took a pic of her nether regions next to a tabouli salad (wtf?!) :shock:
     
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    ^Why? Maybe a bit narcissism?
     
  5. pixiedust1603

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    ^ To answer both your points Fabulyss, I think the FBI are investigating this as they recognise the possibility of a wider security breach that could attack normal women. To put it bluntly, it's the security failings of Apple that have allowed sick men to hack these women's phones and leak out their personal pictures. They did so because the women were famous and powerful but their is now a precedent. What's stopping them from going after anyone's phone? It is a sad state of affairs when the government actually needs it to happen to high profile women to take something seriously but in my eyes, anything that is done to help and protect women's rights is a small victory.

    As for your second point, many of these women are in long distance relationships and often don't see their partners for months on end. I don't think their partners are going to be focusing on the messy bedrooms to be honest. :lol:
     
  6. kokobombon

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    Is this revenge porn? I thought that was when someone you knew released a picture you sent them... this is plain stealing.
     
  7. pixiedust1603

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    Well according to wikipedia revenge porn "is sexually explicit media that is publicly shared online without the consent of the pictured individual. Revenge porn may be uploaded by ex-partners to shame or embarrass the pictured individual, or by hackers." These pictures were uploaded without the consent of the women involved and one to argue done to reduce these women who are known for their talent to mere sexual objects. You only have to look on twitter to see comments about Jennifer Lawrence, Kirsten Dunst and Brie Larson by some who have forgotten that they are talented women and not just pieces of meat to salivate over.
     
  8. Fabulyss

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    THIS. This is the larger issue at hand here. Women are being reduced to sexual objects and there is a growing sense of entitlement by straight men to see them/have them.

    This has been the case since the dawn of man, but recently our society seems to be notably regressing.
     
  9. Not Plain Jane

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    with the internet, clouds, databases, etc, the line between public and private is diminishing, and things are becoming very precarious.

    what the hackers did was wrong. what the twitter mobs are doing is wrong.

    but two things:

    1. we all love looking a photos of celebs - in most of our cases, with their clothes on - that have been taken by paps, without their consent.

    2. this is not the first time such things have happened, and it won't be the last. if i were a celeb or a young girl i wouldn't send out such things. full stop. not to be a prude, but because of the fact that everyone knows that the line between public/private is blurry (watch the bling ring lately?) and that celeb's phones have been hacked before. for crying out loud, there's a hollywood film out right now called SEX TAPE! which is about something private being put up on a cloud. personally, i'd take a picture with a camera, print it, and snail mail it ... express. ;)

    seriously. it's sad that this occurrence isn't very surprising. but it pays to be realistic. there are many other leeks and breeches of security to do with finances, identity theft, and so forth because of new media. is it going to go away any time soon? frankly, i doubt it. the FBI can try. but in the meantime, being cautious would be wise.
     
  10. Not Plain Jane

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    if this is indeed true, then the question has to become - why?

    again, might new media have something to do with it?
     
  11. MulletProof

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    This is the problem, I think... not really what they did with the pictures afterwards but that icloud automatically synchs your photo stream... if you choose that option of course, and who doesn't back up?!. I read that a lot of that was actually deleted so that's a bit freaky... I always knew it was possible to recover pictures that were deleted on your iphone but the idea that someone else can too or that they're actually stored in a place others can access is.. :mellow:..

    I think pixiedust got it right when she mentioned the long-distance thing. You are traveling and apart for long periods of time, even one of the Jessica Brown videos are about that, I definitely don't see it as some fetish or plain narcissism, it's just the way it is for a lot of people, not just celebrities and it's kind of a good use of technology if you ask me, I'm glad we're past the "I long for your return" letter received 3 months later (with not even a sneak peak :lol:- *perv*)... what's wrong is the lack of privacy and of course, the way people are exhibited as if they were doing something sick. Uh, we're all sexual beings, welcome to how the world was made.

    Finally, maybe I'm too hopeful but I don't really see their careers being too hurt, they're a lot and they're in good company to the point you can't really single them out, the only one that's experiencing that is Jennifer Lawrence and she'll be fine, there's also been a lot of criticism towards the person that did this and at this point I care more about how it's all going to go down when he gets arrested (cause he will). It also helps that this has now put everyone in paranoid mode, it was not some unhappy lover betraying an actress and putting it up online.. I'm sure a lot of people have deleted stuff or stopped synching their phones since they read about it. Most people have a passcode for a reason... and turns out it's kind of useless.
     
  12. kokobombon

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    new media only allows those voices to be heard by the masses... Misogyny is not a new thing, slut shaming is neither... only that before their opinions were limited to their circle of friends and people they knew while now it's everywhere in a matter of minutes.
    Cellphone companies should get sued so then maybe they'll do something to secure their servers from hacking so do cloud space providing companies. They should guarantee users are protected. Arresting hackers after the fact is useless in preventing this type of crime imo...
     
  13. *Bianca*

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    New media. Absolutely. Porn is now everywhere and accessed so by young teens and children at alarming rates. It is first education to sex and relationships that these kids get. They learn from a very young age women are nothing but sex objects, and girls believe this too.

    I was actually surprised at how explicit some of these celeb images are (Bar, Melissa...).

    As for the others (and I havent seen them all) I thought nudes in a mirror, sure, why not, but some of the extreme close ups I was not expecting to see.

    *I was born in the 80s. Oh gosh, am I now a prude? :lol:
     
  14. kokobombon

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    blame the users not the media. if children have access to porn blame the parents who arent educating their children, if I want to watch porn why shouldn't I?
    I think the new media is liberating and 'barriers braker'. Just to cite the porn example, if women wanted to watch porn before internet it was embarrassing and it was almost guaranteed that they wouldnt... going to a sex shop, buying videos, etc was frowned upon but now it's just a click away available for everyone without judgement. It's about educating young people, which is mainly the parents job.
    I was not so much surprised by the content but why would they choose to back up those pics (specially in Jennifer Lawrence's case), if indeed they were cloud leeks.
     
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    You can watch porn. I am not saying porn should be banned.

    I am saying it is more pervasive, easier to access (even accidently), and with a greater subtext of violence against women than ever before.

    This is completely different to previous generations' introductions to sex and porn.

    And yes, this is something parents need to adapt their parenting to.

    But honestly I think it will only get worse.
     
  16. Not Plain Jane

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    new media makes EVERYTHING more accessible and immediate - including porn - and so people are exposed to way more and at much younger ages. you can't just blame parents. it's impossible to police your children at all times. but i agree you can't solely blame new media either. it's just important to know that with all its benefits come many risks.

    impossible.... no one can guarantee that.

    phone companies (social media sites, banks, and etc....) can constantly come up with new firewalls, security, etc. and guess what? hackers will constantly come up with new ways to get through. look at the heartbleed bug...

    with the advent of the internet and digital media, the line between public and private has become especially blurry, and yet we offer up more and more information, and more of ourselves, readily and willingly. we need to understand the risks, which are perhaps even more pronounced for famous people.

    i still think there's a weird, though hopefully less harmful, parallel to us looking at paparazzi shots of celebs. a number of them hate those photos, and don't consent, but we still look at them. and while they used to be published in magazines, the market for them on the internet went through the roof!
     
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  17. Benn98

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    Thanks Jane! That was another parallel which I wanted to draw. To some extent we can actually equate the public interest of this hacking to the continued fascination and patronage of paparazzi shots. I mean the very people who fixate on candid pictures of celebs are shouting and screaming about 'violation of privacy'. Is it because nudity is involved?
     
  18. kokobombon

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    ^Pap pics are taken on the street or public areas but these nude pics were private. I think there´s a big difference.

    My point was that you can´t blame internet (as an entity that emcompasses all media) for people´s misogyny, intolerance, etc.
    I don´t think parents should police their children by prohibiting 24/7 that they don´t see stuff that is not meant for them, that indeed is impossible. But they should teach, explain, talk to them about this stuff so when they come across them, they know better.
     
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    Gosh, what's all these misogyny and sexism accusations? Wouldn't be an internet scandal without those terms being thrown around.
     

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