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In the court of Karl

As Karl Lagerfeld makes a rare London appearance times2 Fashion Editor meets a man who calls himself a ‘wh*re’ despite being constant to Chanel for 24 years, a tyrant who commands great loyalty and a couture legend who claims he is not even a great designer

(story and image from timesonline.co.uk)


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There is something playfully provocative about a man extolling the virtues of privacy while surrounded by a cabal of at least 20 people. But in one sense, the crowd milling around Karl Lagerfeld today – fitters, seam-stresses, models, make-up artists, muses, directrices and PRs – are so much a part of his existence that they may have become a kind of animated wallpaper.
We are in the Chanel salon in Paris while he overseesParis-Londres, a collection he is bringing to London’s catwalks tomorrow evening on one of his rare visits, to celebrate the house’s collaboration with French artisans. While most would find the onlookers intrusive, he appears barely to notice them – or rather, to view their low murmuring as a kind of reassuring static. That, of course, would question his claim to crave privacy – a contradiction he would appreciate, since he enjoys nothing better than wrapping himself in riddles.
Or perhaps he views the wallpaper as family. Apart from a battalion of godchildren whom, in the main, he finds “disappointing”, he has no blood ties to speak of. This doesn’t seem to trouble him unduly since you can’t choose your relatives, whereas you can hand-pick your staff. And the Chanel tribe is as loyal as soldiers, somewhat undermining the popular notion of Lagerfeld as a tyrant.
Predictably, he likes the notion of despot, indeed, has fostered it, adopting a uniform of white shirt (he has more than 1,000, mostly from Hilditch & Key), drainpipe trousers, frock coat, white ponytail, omnipresent sunglasses and a carapace of rings (he has hundreds) that garland his knuckles like armour. What he dislikes about going to Germany, which he does as rarely as he visits Britain, is the Teutonic habit of calling him Karli, or Karlchen. Anyone would think he preferred his more common nickname of Kaiser Karl.
The Kaiser persona is so recognisable that it has become a Hallowe’en staple in New York; recently Roberto Cavalli attended a party in Lagerfeld fancy dress. “An act of courage, no?” retorts Lagerfeld. “His silhouette is a little . . . just say I think I look better.” Since his dramatic weight loss seven years ago (he says that he keeps in shape by foxtrotting with Oscar de la Renta), The Look can border on the demonic or, on milder days, on the vestments of a malevolent Dickensian priest – “defrocked” as he puts it with relish.
It’s a witty if disconcerting construct, not only because his mother Elizabeth, a lapsed Protestant who had been told by a fortune-teller that her son would become a bishop, promptly forbade him from stepping inside a church when he was growing up, but because there is a touch of the religious aesthete about his abstemiousness.
In the 1970s, when the rest of Paris wallowed in an orgy of drugs and, well, orgies, the strikingly attractive Lagerfeld preferred to retire at the end of an evening with a good book (one legend puts his collection at 500,000). There was his great love, Jacques de Bascher, but after de Bascher died in 1989, there followed an apparent withdrawal from emotional commitment.
His chief rival at that time, Yves Saint Laurent (who came third in a competition to design a coat, behind Lagerfeld), was at the centre of a cultural Zeitgeist while Lagerfeld remained the outsider. “My choice,” he says. “I was not born to be wild. He [Saint Laurent] was the opposite of what one should do. He was a genius ruined by his entourage.” Hmm.
There was never any danger of Lagerfeld going over the edge. He preferred to watch others perform that manoeuvre. From this vicariousness, perhaps, came his passion for photography. “Guilty? No, I didn’t make them. I couldn’t stop them.” So no self-destruction for him.

He says he doesn’t have an entourage. Yet what are these 20 attendants, hanging on his every word – a latterday composite of a royal court from his favourite period, the 18th century? They have been waiting all day for him and now that, at 5pm, he has finally arrived, they will be hanging on a lot longer.“But it’s not like Armani, with his boyfriend. It’s not like Valentino with his, or Yves with Pierre [Berg鬠Saint Laurent’s lover andSvengali]. I never wanted my business partner to be my boyfriend. I never wanted to be surrounded by sycophants. That’s why my career is completely different from theirs. You could say that I’m a terrible underachiever. My mother always said it was a good thing that I went into fashion because it proved I didn’t have any great expectations of myself, and she was right. I haven’t made an empire with my name on it. I don’t go around calling myself an artist. If anything,” he breaks off, amused by the conceit, “I’m a wh*re. I go wherever they pay me.”
Actually, for a wh*re, he’s remarkably constant. He has been with Chanel for 24 years and with Fendi for 40, which places him directly under the rule of two of the most powerful and reclusive businessmen in the world – Alain Wertheimer, the owner of Chanel, and Bernard Arnaud, the CEO of LVMH, which now owns Fendi.
 
Recently he sold his own label to Tommy Hilfiger, the all-American designer, of whom he says he sees almost nothing. But in any case, Lagerfeld, the lord of misrule, is ungovernable – partly thanks to his incontrovertible success, which makes him virtually unassailable.
As a private company,Chanel guards its figures ferociously, but factoring in perfumes (Chanel No 5 remains a global best-seller eight decades after its launch), bags, cosmetics, shoes and jewellery, it ranks among the world’s top three luxury houses. At 69 (or 74, he is uncharacteristically coy, or deliberately mysterious when it comes to his age, but whatever it is, he seems both youthful and curiously ageless), Lagerfeld has enough clout even with teenagers for his H&M collection to incite near riots.
So we return to that question of indulgence, because this is a man who not only collects – and sheds – possessions like a bulimic (a sale at Christie’s of discarded 18th-century furniture and artwork from one of his houses in 2000 pocketed $21.7 million) but is also one whom it would be unwise to cross. This is because, as he said in Lagerfeld Confidential, the documentary doing the rounds of arthouse cinemas, he likes the Sword of Damocles hovering above his friendships. “That way you never take one another for granted.”
Those who cross him rarely get away with it. “Fashion is about elimination,” he says, and he probably applies this principle elsewhere. “I’m good at cutting people off. Revenge is one of my less pleasant pastimes. I can wait ten years and then pull the chair. Sometimes people don’t even know that it was me who pulled it. Some are not even worth the effort. Others are so mediocre that life takes care of them anyway.” All this is delivered with a spectacularly avuncular chuckle. When I remark that I’ve never seen him without his sunglasses, he pulls them down his nose momentarily – just long enough for me to observe that disappointingly, far from glow-in-the-dark red eyes, his are a rather clear brown.
I’m beginning to seewhy a lost soul like Lindsay Lohan said that she would like him to adopt her. For there is an internal logic to everything that he says. It might be ruthlessly brutal, but it is remarkably lacking in sentimentality and crackling with brittle humour. His is a heady mix of culture (he speaks five languages, scattering references to 16th-century poets, 20th-century philosophers and 21st-century actresses in all of them) intelligence and frivolity that flatters those swept up in his orbit into a sense of security. His team also has the satisfaction of knowing that working at Chanel is still creatively exhilarating. While Armani, Saint Laurent and Valentino, his peers from the 1970s, formulated their visions decades ago, Lagerfeld, when he has a mind to, reinvents his, sometimes recklessly so. Perhaps when he says: “I don’t take it seriously. I don’t talk about my art. I love it, I’m a clothes freak and I’m good on the job because I know more than other people technically, but you really don’t have to cry over taffeta. I’d never call myself a great designer,” he means it.
Lagerfeld’s supreme genius is for reinvention, for subversion (a Chanel cocktail dress is never simply a beautiful dress, it always carries a whiff, however subliminal, of bourgeois depravity, complete with frequent religious references) and for transmogrifying street trends into irresistible clothes with immense price tags.
But he can also, when he’s in the mood, conjure up ethereally beautiful clothes – especially for Chanel’s couture collections – that almost glow with an exquisite lightness. He was one of the first to retreat from couture in the 1960s, when it had become a trope for all that was staid and pass鮊But now that it is bought by a tiny elite who are only too happy to nurture its creative waywardness, he finds it thoroughly engaging again. He didn’t like the 1990s much (he spent part of it grieving for de Bascher) and the minimalist years of that decade pushed Chanel, and thus Lagerfeld, into the margins. But the need to renew rescued him and the brand, which is more desirable than ever.
Renewal is why he still has the stomach to refashion the classic Chanel 2.55 quilted bag as an alcohol ankle-tag holder, why he can be bothered to house 40 iPods with every genre of music known, why, having all but ended his formal education at 14, he became an autodidact, why he will never stop working and why, presumably, he allowed the young director Rodolphe Marconi unprecedented access to film him for months for Lagerfeld Confidential. “Oh that,” he says dismissively. “It shows nothing. It was a game – I like being a puppeteer.”
I’m not sure that the film is as unrevealing as he maintains. If nothing else, it hints at a solitude away from the madding crowd that could turn quite dark. His world view can certainly be bleak. “We deserve nothing, least of all happiness,” he says at one point, explaining where his godchildren go wrong. “Like most young people they expect too much. Everything has to be so emotional today. Emotion is so overrated.”
Does he mean this, or is it for effect? Should we resort to Freud to explain that the famous acquisitiveness is trying to fill some kind of hole, or assume that the houses, furniture, and the 19 trunks he packs for a week’s trip are wily affectations to entertain the press. Lagerfeld is not a fan of Freud. “Psychoanalysis kills creativity. It’s just a way for people to get some attention from someone other than themselves for an hour.”
The film allowed him more control than last year’s book The Beautiful Fall, Alicia Drake’s account of Saint Laurent and Lagerfeld, which contradicted the latter’s own account of his upbringing, and angered him to the extent that he took legal action against what he saw as an invasion of privacy.
Officially, he was born in 1938 and raised in the countryside outside Hamburg in considerable splendour. (Although he now says that he’s saving the full story for a posthumous autobiography, “and there will be some surprises, nothing is quite what everyone thinks”.) His father, the one with the Calvinist work ethic, owned a condensed-milk factory. His mother, the one with the unconventional approach to child-rearing, told him to speak faster because, while he was 6, she wasn’t, and if he wished to maintain her attention, he’d have to learn to precis. “Harsh, yes. One had to fight for her attention. But she was the perfect mother for me.”
Clearly their relationship worked. He liked his mother’s style, not just her contempt for the 1950s (“she vomited over all that phoney elegance”), but the fact that she stood up for him when one of his teachers demanded that he get his hair cut. “She said ‘What are you, a Nazi?’ That was pretty shocking for the time.” She liked his precocity – he certainly learnt how to amuse her more than his sisters, “in whom”, he says matter-of-factly, “no one was interested”. Surrounded by adults from another century (his godfather, “the chicest man I ever saw”, was born in 1868 and once slapped Lagerfeld around the face because he’d never heard of Ferdinand Freiligrath, a minor German poet), it doesn’t require a huge leap of the imagination to understand why he didn’t forge lasting bonds with the local children.
By 14 he was in Paris, at fashion school, living in apension. Being German in postwar Paris must have been a potentially alienating experience, but he says it was fine, really. “I’m not that German.” His first job was with Balmain: “My God, the terrible things that went on behind the scenes in those couture houses. The cruelty. The cheapness. It was like Victor Hugo. That will be in the book, too.”
He has no problem with the present, although when he visits Germany teachers write to compliment him on the correctness of his prewar German. It’s nostalgia he despises – it is, after all, more ageing than wrinkles.
Despite criticising H&M for producing some of his collection in large sizes when they were conceived for slim bodies, he doesn’t fret that one day most of the population may be obese. “There will always be an elite who are thin. At the moment fashion is at an interesting point. You know the philosopher George Santayana’s theories of beauty, or Marvel’s [he means Sir Francis Bacon’s] quote about there being no excellent beauty without some imperfection? That’s what it’s like now. Everything has to be a little ‘off’ to look good now.”
That tension pleases him, understanding only too well as he does how closely beauty and ugliness are allied and the charm of complexity. Nor is he remotely perturbed by those who accuse gay designers of all sharing the same agenda. “A few may not like women but, if we’re on that subject, what about Chanel? She hated women.” He fears nothing, he says, apart from illness and poverty, and perhaps becoming vulnerable, which he claims not to be. As for indulged? Up to a point. But when his mother died, he became his own harshest critic and, as such, he can never escape the judgment he fears most.
The life and style of Karl Lagerfeld
1938 Born in Hamburg, Germany
1955 Beats Yves Saint Laurent to win first prize in the International Wool Secretariat amateur design competition, aged 17
1958 Appointed artistic director for Parisian couture house Jean Patou
1967 Joins fashion house Fendi as a design consultant
1971 Appointed designer at Chlo鮠Forges its classic feminine style
1983 Leaves Chlo頴o become artistic director at Chanel. Resurrects the ailing brand by fusing its core elements with a more modern approach
1984 Creates his own fashion line, Lagerfeld Gallery
1989 Close friend and reputed lover, Jacques de Bascher, dies. Lagerfeld “lets himself go” and gains weight (in 2000, he weighed 16st)
1992 Asked to return to Chlo頢ut leaves in 1996. When his successor, Stella McCartney, is appointed he remarks: “They should have taken a big name. They did, but in music, not fashion”
2000 Inspired by the slim-fitting designs of Dior Homme’s Hedi Slimane, he loses 6½ st in 13 months
2004 Collaborates with H&M to produce a high street line. When the clothes are produced in a size 16, he complains: “What I created was fashion for slim, slender people.
2004 Lagerfeld Gallery is bought out by the Hilfiger Corporation
2007 The film Lagerfeld Confidential introduces him to the arthouse crowd
What Lagerfeld’s listening to
Amy Winehouse: Back to Black
Beirut: Flying Club Cup
Super Furry Animals: The Proper Ornaments
Igor Stravinsky: Capriccio for Piano & Orchestra
Siouxsie and the Banshees: Spellbound
 
That was just a fantastic article! An autobiography does sound interesting, doesn't it!?



:ninja: I wish I was part of his entourage...I could replace Amanda Harlech. I have better taste, at least. :innocent:
 
At the moment fashion is at an interesting point. You know the philosopher George Santayana’s theories of beauty, or Marvel’s [he means Sir Francis Bacon’s] quote about there being no excellent beauty without some imperfection? That’s what it’s like now. Everything has to be a little ‘off’ to look good now.

Well that explains a few things...

<<looking up the quote>>

“There is no excellent beauty, that hath not some strangeness in the proportion.” -- Sir Francis Bacon
 
I love this man. He's whitty and dry, kind of a bad boy and a total genius....it's such a great mix really.

It was interesting in the little bits that go beyond his outward appearence, it showed him as a human instead of a Kaiser which is always nice to see. I think it's his honesty that I admire so much, his frankness about everything.
 
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That was just a fantastic article! An autobiography does sound interesting, doesn't it!?



:ninja: I wish I was part of his entourage...I could replace Amanda Harlech. I have better taste, at least. :innocent:

and i could replace the likes of virginie, par example

:innocent: actually i wouldnt mind replacing virginie, amanda, madame martine, or even the guy who serves him his glasses of diet coke/pepsi:rolleyes:


PS: it's so odd because not to long ago he menitoned how he'd never write a biography because of this idea of him of not living in the past and anticipating the end of his life or however he said it (it was probably a genius quote)
 
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1992 Asked to return to Chlo頢ut leaves in 1996. When his successor, Stella McCartney, is appointed he remarks: “They should have taken a big name. They did, but in music, not fashion”
Agreed x 7458910486294573942165

And a person his age who listens to Siouxsie is automatically awesome in my book. B)
 
Good article he is always a treat to read about but Im not sure about the whole 1970s stay at home read a book shtick theres a video on youtube with him and another woman that begs to differ.
 
Lagerfeld cautions, before giving a tour of his house, “You will think I’m a madman.”

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Photograph by François-Marie Banier.

Also watch "Signe Chanel" on Youtube
read "After the Fall" on YSL and KL


New Yorker piece on M. Lagerfeld by J. Colapinto from March 07:

The headquarters of Chanel are situated in two adjacent eighteenth-century buildings on the Rue Cambon, in Paris, occupying a labyrinthine suite of rooms on five floors, above a street-level Chanel boutique. One evening last December, Karl Lagerfeld, the label’s artistic director, and twenty-two assistants—hair, makeup, shoes, jewelry, music—crammed into a room on the complex’s top floor to conduct a fitting for a collection that was to be shown six days later, in Monte Carlo. Many male designers wear T-shirts and jeans not only to work but also at runway shows—as if to suggest that they are somehow above the world of trend and fashion they inhabit. Lagerfeld, who was dressed in a tight Dior suit of broad gray and blue stripes, and a pair of aviator sunglasses, disdains this practice. “I don’t think I’m too good for what I’m doing,” he says.

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http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/19/070319fa_fact_colapinto?currentPage=all
 

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