Mackenzie Phillips allegations

[lizbabe09]

Actress Mackenzie Phillips went on Oprah last week and spoke about her book "High On Arrival" in which she claims to have had a ten year consensual relationship with her father John Phillips, member of the group the Mamas and the Papas (who passed away in 2001). Some family members, including half sister Bijou Phillips are speaking out against Mackenzie and defending John. Have you guys heard about this?

 

[fashion tyger]

Insane!!! this year has been insane!!!.....I gotta buy this book!!!.....what can you say to something like this.....I am in total shock!!!

 

[ckashie]

Chynna has supported her and so has the daughter of another Mamas & Papas member. Apparantly calls to abuse/r*pe/incest hotlines have increased dramatically so Mackenzie has been successful in wanting to bring attention to this issue. Personally it doesn't surprise me about her stepmothers denying it- this is common in a lot of abuse situations (the wife being in denial, father-daughter is by far the most common incestuous abuse situation). Michelle's statement was pretty nasty though, saying that Mackenzie basically couldn't be trusted because she'd been a drug addict and was just jealous of her siblings who hadn't become addicts (even though Bijou went to rehab for heroin).

But I can understand Bijou, she pointed out that she had lived alone with her father since the age of three and doesn't understand that if people knew what her dad was doing, why no-one would have intervened. It's such an awful situation for the family, but if it is true then how brave Mackenzie is to have come out with it, as she said on Oprah she knows she will now be the face of incest.

ETA: Also pretty disturbing that all the media makes it sound like it was totally consentual when it's obvious that in the beginning he raped her. Her admission that "it eventually became consentual" made me shiver

 

[tifa]

michelle is poison. people often want to turn a blind eye to things like this happening. this case seems all too typical. there are other depressing elements where mackenzie states that mick jagger had wanted to have sex with her since she was a very young girl. they raised children in a disturbing messed up manner and now michelle is asking to protect the 'legacy'. shut up evil woman!

 

[lizbabe09]

I think it's pretty sad that she came out with this and not a lot of people seem to be supporting her. I read on some website that the reason she went public with these allegations is because her book was coming out and she wanted publicity for it.

 

[fashion tyger]

Would someone really say something like this if it wasn't true......God bless us all.....

 

[lizbabe09]

Yeah, I don't think it's something someone would make up. Plus she said on Oprah and that got pregnant and John paid for the abortion. That seems insane to me.

 

[silk skin paws]

This maybe an unpopular opinion:

I think she's still protecting her father. I don't think the raped first happened when she was 18 but younger. If a father could do this to his 18 year old daughter he would so at any age, at a younger age. I don't care if Mackenzie admits that it eventually became a consensual act and being an adult I still consider it abuse. She was at such a fragile and self-destructive state instead of being the guider and protector John exploited her.

 

[ckashie]

I agree with you but IMO it is definately abuse considering it began with him r*ping her.

 

[Working Girl]

I think the word consensual throws people for. I think it puts the blame on her as well. I hope she knows she didn't do anything wrong. I wonder why her? He had two other daughters. Where was her mother?

 

[inhirnamy137]

<H2 itxtvisited="1">PHILLIPS BLAMES MACKENZIE FOR RUINING HER LIFE

Actress BIJOU PHILLIPS has blamed her half-sister MACKENZIE for ruining her relationship with their father JOHN.
MACkenzie shocked fans by detailing her 10-year sexual affair with The Mamas & The Papas singer in a new memoir, High on Arrival - and she hit headlines last week (23Sep09) when she sat down with Oprah Winfrey to talk about the scandal on U.S. TV.
But Bijou, John's youngest child, has admitted MACkenzie told her about the alleged romance years ago - and it had a devastating effect on her teenage years, stripping her of her innocence and leaving her wary of her father.
The 29 year old insists it took her years to repair her relationship with the California Dreamin' hitmaker after hearing about the r*pe allegations.
In a series of messages posted on her Twitter.com page, Bijou writes, "Exploiting the history of our family and the death of our father John Phillips for the release of a book is disgusting. Allegations of sexual abuse are not only hurtful, but malicious when he is not here to defend himself.
"When I was young my sister told me about this - it ruined my life and my relationship with my father. Up till that point, I was a normal kid. I got good grades, loved my horse, was pretty innocent. I moved out to NYC at 13. Started doing drugs, did not talk to my Dad anymore... I was deeply f**ked up. I'm 29 now, I've talked to everyone who was around during that time, I've asked the hard questions. I do not believe my sister. Our father is many things, this is not one of them. My dad and I made up when I was 20, a year before he died. I'm sad I lost those years with him, and I lost those years at home."
John Phillips died of heart failure in 2001, aged 65.



29 September 2009 12:16


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http://twitter.com/BijouPhillips

Yep he isn't here to defend himself

 

[shoesexy]

Now two ex-wives and a sister say MP fabricated this.....???

And MP is saying they are lying to "protect the Mamas & Pappas brand."


It's not getting clearer, for me.

 

[Working Girl]

What the hell is Bijou talking about. Her parents lost custody of her because of their behavior. She was put to foster care. Moving out at 13 that was probably her own doing. Her father probably wouldn't have cared less.


I can't imagine being part of the Philips family. I would rather believe Mackenzie than any of them.

 

[ckashie]

Ugh I can't believe that article described the relationship as a 'romance'. It was abuse. Plain and simple. Nothing romantic about it.

 

[sedirea]

Bijou is obviously delusional.. she even talked about how he molested her years ago but later said it was just a joke. Who jokes about that?

 

[lizbabe09]

Bijou is obviously delusional.. she even talked about how he molested her years ago but later said it was just a joke. Who jokes about that?

It was on one of her songs right?

 

[fashionista-ta]

This maybe an unpopular opinion:

I think she's still protecting her father. I don't think the raped first happened when she was 18 but younger. If a father could do this to his 18 year old daughter he would so at any age, at a younger age. I don't care if Mackenzie admits that it eventually became a consensual act and being an adult I still consider it abuse. She was at such a fragile and self-destructive state instead of being the guider and protector John exploited her.

I heard her interviewed on Dr Laura Berman's show as I was driving home the other night. My recollection is she said that the first time she was aware of the relationship was when she was 19 and came to after a substance-induced blackout to find her father having sex with her. She said that she had been having these blackouts in her father's presence for several years, and she has no idea whether this was the first time. But it's the first time she was aware of. She confronted her father afterwards, and called it r*pe. He called it 'making love.'

Dr Berman said that this type of relationship cannot be consensual because of the imbalance of power (not to mention the blackouts and the lack of a clear mental state), and suggested the term 'cooperate,' as in, 'you cooperated.'

Mackenzie agreed, and liked this terminology much better. She said that she didn't research sexual abuse before writing the book, but simply wrote her truth as best she knew how. She said she never cared for the term consensual, but didn't know another word to use.

 

[lizbabe09]

I guess Mackenzie went back on the Oprah show Friday

Re-appearing on the show, Mackenzie admitted she hated the idea of falling out with her stepsister, who bailed her out after her drug arrest last year.

She said, "I love my baby sister and I miss having contact with her. I understand how this is for her and my heart goes out to her."

Phillips was then questioned by Winfrey about why she left her stepsister with her father when she knew of his deviant nature.

The actress said, "Maybe I did her a disservice... but I felt she was safe. I did go there and I did take her out of there at one point, where I felt like she wasn't being watched properly. I didn't feel she was in any sexual danger."

She added, "I have done my best to protect Bijou, even through this firestorm."

Mackenzie was joined by her other stepsister, Chynna Phillips, on the Oprah show on Friday. Chynna believes her sister's claims. »

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