Interview with a rising star of modeling. It took place before the f/w 13 shows in New York.
Why did you choose modeling?
I just wanted to try. I've send my photos to "Victor Junior". Yes, this is a magazine for teenagers. I don't even remember why did I do it, but inside the magazine there was always a note that if you want to be on the cover you can send your photo along with the description of your hobbies. I've send it and I got my first cover. I wrote a note about my hobbies - it was quite long- and I attached the photo. Now, when I look at it I just can not to be amused how ugly it was.
Do you still have this very first cover?
Yes, I have it somewhere. My mom keeps an archive and collects everything about me, wherever I appear.
What was your age at that moment?
I was 13 and it was the beginning of everything. I've send my photos to the agency, they didn't write back. I've send it again and after that they invited me to a photoshoot. The photographer had known someone who worked for the Free Models Agency, which I'm still with, and send them photos of me and that's how it began. At first I made only some test photos, maybe one or two photos for "Joy" and that sort of magazines. But my first important priority was an education. Everyone have always told me "remember, this is just an adventure, the school is more important"
Did you treat it as an adventure? So it wasn't an idea for a future?
No, because I've always paid a very big attention to my education. You know- good marks etc. I've never thought about being a professional model. I've always thought that I'll make some photos and it's fun, but nothing more. And after that it just happened. I started to get better and better options. And finally I went to Paris and everyone said "wow".
How did your first job abroad look like?
At first I went to Greece to build up my portfolio, then I went to New York. It was just before high school- 3-4 years ago. I had only a tourist visa and overall I didn't like New York. And I didn't like my booker. His atitude was horrible and he'd repeat over and over that I was *** *** and wear wrong clothes. Then he'd bought me too big shoes and told me to walk in them, and I just couldn't. Then he'd send me to the casting. Overall it was a very negative experience.
And it was your first major job/departure?
Yes, unfortunately. For a month I was sitting down doing nothing and missing home.
But you didn't give up.
After thatI just didn't want to come back there, to do anything abroad. That's why I was so nervous when I arrived to New York this year. But this booker is no longer working here and it's completely different now. I wasn't ready back then. I was too young. After that I went to Paris where I think I did better.
I've made a couple of seasons but the last one was the most significant. Before, I thought that I'll do some work and go back to school. I did only Paris FW, because it took place during the winter school break. I didn't do fall/winter 2012 season at all because of the high school-ending exams which were going to take place in May.
You wanted to give it up?
After this negative experience in NY I thought that I'll never ever go anywhere. That I can do something only in Poland. I didn't do any fashion shows back then. Besides, I used to hate them. I couldn't walk. The first time I wore high heels was during the Free Models Agency meeting. I've walked as a duck through the photoshoot set.
What are the most noticeable differences between the conditions of work in Poland and the other countries?
When it comes up to a photoshoots there are no noticeable differences, because every single of them is different in terms of the conditions of work, atmosphere or the length of the photoshoot. Everything depends from a client, the stylist, photographer or some other factors. For example length of the photoshoot depends on what's the main concept of the photos- if the shots have to be totally perfect.
And abroad?
Abroad, a model is able to do 5 shows and even a couple of fittings during 13 hours. I'm talking about extreme cases here, but it's possible. The standard calltime during the shows around the world is about three hours (before the show). With that difference that the day before we have the fittings, to fit perfectly every single piece of clothing. If it's necessary, the clothes have to be customized to fit an individual model. In 95% of the cases there is something to tuck, narrow etc.
In Poland those fittings take place in the morning, and if something doesn't fit, the models exchange the clothes until every of them look good in the outfit. It's because the models arrive from many different cities and they are not able to arrive a day before to do the fittings. And even if they are, for them it's an additional cost and a waste of time. Abroad, all of the models stay in the city during the fashion week, so the designers don't have such a problem and it's normal that the fittings end at, for example, 3 am (my personal record is 5 am).
When it comes up to the overall conditions - it depends from the show, but the most frequently between 9 and 16 there is nothing to eat or there are only sweets. Then they serve us not a very tasty dinner, so I've learned to bring my own food (laugh).
In Poland you are mainly known for a Bohoboco campaign.
The designers have found me In Lodz, where they presented they collections. They wanted me to work with them.
You were their face for two seasons in a row. (Now- three in a row)
Yes and once I was a blonde. But it was a wig, and honestly I liked it - I thought it looks really good when I wore it for the first time. Maybe when I'll start to go grey I'll return to this hairstyle.
But your current hair color really helps you.
Of course. The competition is small, because there are really few redheads. I stand out and it's definitely easier.
Did you have a moment when you didn't want to have red hair?
Yes, but only in childhood. When I was in kindergarten I was wearing glasses, I had red hair, so it wasn't an easy time for me. By the way, I have to make a correction. I had recently an interview for "The Cut" in the US. I mentioned there about my childhood, but someone translated it incorrectly and wrote that I was fat. But I never was. I just wasn't as slim as I am now. And a second thing about my grand-grandma. They wrote that she'd always told me that red-haired people' life is more difficult- but she didn't. In the interview I told that my grand-grandma's hair were red and she felt guilty that I have red hair too- because redheads are always teased by others. And they wrote that redheads' life is worse. And that's it.
(Some weight talk)
So are you able sacrifice yourself for a modeling?
It depends which job I'll get. I usually cannot choose. The clients know how I look and they don't care if I'll change in any way until a photoshoot. They only look at how do I look now. They don't expect anything else. And that's an irritating aspect of the industry- nothing really depends from me. I look how I look and the only thing I can do is to work on my my body shape or muscles. I will not tell them " don't look at this now, I'll change that in two weeks". Of course, you always want everything to be the best. At the moment I really care about modeling, I want to achieve something.
Coming back to hair. They're your trademark. Would you allow somebody to change them?
When it comes up to hair they cut. They love to cut. (laugh) But of course they always ask for a permission. They wanted to cut my hair for a shoulder-length at Balenciaga. But I refused. Then long negotiations took place. They told me about it already in New York. The negotiations lasted so long that even my mother agency told me that maybe I should agree and cut them...
At that time I only walked for Marc Jacobs and nobody knew how my career is going to look. If I'd lost Balenciaga and wouldn't walk any other decent show it wouldn't be a good sign. So they told me that it would be a good idea to agree for a cut. But I just couldn't. I couldn't imagine myself with short hair and I didn't agree.
And eventually they didn't cut them.
Exactly. I walked the show nonetheless. They booked me without cutting my hair, although before they told that they'll book me only if I cut them. They wanted to cut my hair at Celine too, but I was already booked for Saint Laurent Paris and they didn't agree. So Celine couldn't change them in any way. Now they cut my hair at Giambattista Valli and Valentino- just a bit.
Which job was the most pleasant for you?
Celine, because it was the first show which I opened. And I even didn't know about that. When I left the fittings I was sure that they don't like me and I'll be cancelled. I thought that they will not book me. So it was a huge surprise when they booked me, and even bigger when I found out that I'll open the show.
How do you usually find out about the final decision?
There are the fittings, they say "thank you", sometimes "see your soon". Sometimes they don't say anything. So you never know. Generally, I find out that I'll be at the show the day before, when they give me a next day schedule. But still, you can always be cancelled- even on the day of a show.
At Celine, I found out that I open during the rehearsal. Before Celine I did Kenzo and I arrived just after the show. At the last minute. And they put me at a first place. I thought that is is some kind of a mistake, that some girl is absent.
It was a remarkable difference?
There were such a huge emotions! Thank God that I had flat shoes. With a fur, so they were super comfy. It's very strange to open the finale. I had a feeling that there are some girls behind me who have high heels and they might have a problem with walking as quick as me.
Is there something like a stress before the show?
Yes, but mine is not as big now. But there always is. Especially, when you wear uncomfortable clothes or shoes.
What are you thinking about when you walk?
Earlier it was something like that- when somebody told me not to wave so much with my left hand- and I had a time when I waved a lot, so when I walked, I thought about not doing it. I was like "remember not to wave your left hand, remember not to wave your left hand!". And after that it was "don't keep your sight so high". And now, I just don't know. I just switch off. I walk careful of my sight not being too absent, to show the emotions which they expect from me. And if the dress is somewhat complicated I also think "don't trip, don't trip". But, assuming that the dress and shoes are comfortable, I think about the right emotions.
Being a model is sometimes like being an actress?
I'm not sure, but I've heard that somebody put it that way- modeling is like acting, but without words so it's more difficult. But for me it's easier. I don't want to be an actress for sure. I participated in a school play once and it was pretty much all I was able to do. I'll never try again. But I'm able to do some promotional videos, like for a Bohoboco campaign, but when it comes to acting- no way.
Whose presence on the audience amused you the most?
I think mainly the editors. But, thank god, I don't look at the audience when I walk. Maybe because of that I didn't see Anna Wintour. (laugh)
When you are on the runway do you realize that the most important people in the industry look at you?
No, I cut it off. I don't think about it, otherwise it would be too much. I only think that if I'll spoil the show the designer will not book me again.
Which designer's personality do you like the most?
Marc Jacobs, he's really cool. Very funny. Giambattista Valli is very nice too. Generally, all of them are- in their own way.
Was there someone who totally demotivated you?
No, but there are stories of models crying because of a designer. I never did. Well, I might feel sorry because for example, they cancelled me in London. But I'll never find out why, if it was because of the clothes, that I didn't fit, or if it was a stylist or a designer who decided.
Is there a person in the fashion industry who you met and realized that you're already a part of this world?
I think Marc Jacobs and Steven Meisel are such persons, but also models. At the beginning I wasn't really interested in fashion. Sure, I recognized some models, the major brands, but not that I checked every collection season after season. My girlfriends were more interested in fashion than me. Now it's nice to see myself in a magazine. Especially when your peers were laughing at you- and suddenly it turned out that I'm not that ugly.
You choose modeling to show them that you can achieve something?
My self-esteem had definitely improved when I started to succeed. I started to believe in myself. Even this very first Victor Junior cover was a success for me. It really was very cool. For the first time I proved that I can achieve something. Even tough my friend told "Magda, I'd never say that some day you will be a model!" Thanks! (laugh)
You more wanted to prove something them or yourself?
I think myself. Of course mom, grandma and the whole family always say that you're beautiful- so they were saying that I should give it a try. Many people told me that a red-haired girl is such a unique beauty, that I just have to try, maybe something will come out of that. But I'd never thought about that in this way. Especially on a such a huge scale.
Do you have some modeling dreams?
Of course, a Vogue cover- American, Italian etc. Every model dreams about even one photo inside this magazine. I remember my first, Brazilian Vogue, it was such a huge luck! I don't even dare to dream about a cover!
And when it comes up to campaigns? Shows?
I really wanted to do Louis Vuitton and I made it, although I didn't expect it at all. And when I got an offer from Valentino, I couldn't believe they even thought about me! So at first I've got Valentino, then I came back to New York and it turned out that I've got also LV. Pure happiness. I thought it's too beautiful to be true.