Margaret Howell F/W 2024.25 Paris

[vetements]

Ami Paris and Casey Casey are somewhat similar to MH price-wise. Slightly different aesthetic, but similar quality I think. And of course there's Lemaire, which is more fashion forward.

Pretty different aesthetics, yeah ( off topic, but Casey Casey is pretty expensive, more so than MH in fact. Why? Just cos they used vintage fabrics sourced from around the world and manufactured in France?)
I wanted to say APC but I thought yeah, it is also different, APC is definitely more frenchy (think Hedi, think Celine) while MH is more brit. for Japan`s case, I am thinking maybe MUJI and maybe its Labo series (in its early stages, it has Yohji`s teams working on it even, I am not sure now).

I do think however, some Prada looks say, the librarian sweater types, can be similar but of course difference price points....

Here in Japan, we have a lot of what we call select shops, from Beams to Journal Standard, to United Arrows to Tomorrowland etc, all of which carries lines that look similar to MH (and they do put in efforts, some of which are made in Italy/ France etc), you just need to be discerning.

 

[dancv]

what other brands are like MH? (genuine question, Im researching mid-price good quality brands)

A Kind of Guise has a lot of items that would fit right into a MH heavy wardrobe. I don’t know what the quality / price range is like nowadays though as I can’t find it here where I live. A few friends have mentioned TOAST is a good and affordable alternative as well.

 

[Kennnnn]

Pretty different aesthetics, yeah ( off topic, but Casey Casey is pretty expensive, more so than MH in fact. Why? Just cos they used vintage fabrics sourced from around the world and manufactured in France?)
I wanted to say APC but I thought yeah, it is also different, APC is definitely more frenchy (think Hedi, think Celine) while MH is more brit. for Japan`s case, I am thinking maybe MUJI and maybe its Labo series (in its early stages, it has Yohji`s teams working on it even, I am not sure now).

I do think however, some Prada looks say, the librarian sweater types, can be similar but of course difference price points....

Here in Japan, we have a lot of what we call select shops, from Beams to Journal Standard, to United Arrows to Tomorrowland etc, all of which carries lines that look similar to MH (and they do put in efforts, some of which are made in Italy/ France etc), you just need to be discerning.

Yes indeed, Journal Standard's relume range is quite similar and a lot less expensive. Also Steven Alan (the version licensed in Japan).

Muji Labo is currently designed by Daiki Suzuki's team, the ones behind N.Hoolywood. The cuts are more avant garde than MH, but would fit well with the MH aesthetic.

 

[vetements]

Yes indeed, Journal Standard's relume range is quite similar and a lot less expensive. Also Steven Alan (the version licensed in Japan).

Muji Labo is currently designed by Daiki Suzuki's team, the ones behind N.Hoolywood. The cuts are more avant garde than MH, but would fit well with the MH aesthetic.

thanks for the currentMUJI LABO info, I didnt know that, how about auralee? same same but different from MH I guess......

 

[Kennnnn]

thanks for the currentMUJI LABO info, I didnt know that, how about auralee? same same but different from MH I guess......

Thank you! I've heard of auralee but never paid attention. I will have to find out more. If you like muji labo, do check out digawel, another solid emerging Tokyo label.

And I'm sorry for digressing from this thread. We should really set something up for new Japanese designers!

 

[penny609]

^^ Exactly! there are shows with obscene amounts of money just to present collections that do not merit even one cent invested on a large production because it’s disposable garbage (think, every Glenn Martens show, Balenciaga, all of NYFW), how is this somehow below press coverage and undeserving of attention when it’s pieces people would actually wear? not everything has to be loud and bombastic and in your face, and for the MH customer, it does carry novety believe it or not.

Got to agree with most things you wrote here, even if the twisted side of mine would have enjoyed something fancier, like a fancier lookbook? I'm not really passionate about Margaret Howell's work but seeing it, watching it for over a decade (I think, I'm pretty bad at numbers), I respect her way to do things (even I'd do some adjustments for sure), I enjoy some pieces of hers etc. And you're so true about disposable garbage being thrown (or sometimes - often?- shoved down our throats via a plethory of side-effects and other unnecessary tricks) at us, at our eyes (and: for what final result?).

I'd take this a gazillion times rather than a single piece, even a quarter of a shoe, of Demna's Balenciaga (are we even still allowed to call 'it' Balenciaga if we want to keep a small bit of intellectual integrity alive in our squeezed-out brains?). Maybe that's just me getting a little further than my initial plans were meant to be, but (to import-export some stuff I wrote in another thread), innovation could also be in the way some brand/designer introduces his/her image(ry), presents her/his work. Margaret Howell would have some great opportunities doing it: she's crafting genuinely appealing pieces, she could just spice it up a bit by choosing a different way to showcase it/them.

Maybe that's just my point, my liking of garments that don't pretend to be something else than garments, leaving the imagination of the buyer or "wearer" free to decide how it has to be worn and put together. And maybe most customers don't even care about this aspect or if the lookbook, the presentation, the cheap or expensive runway is tailor-made to dream and fly. Just thinking by, and a dreaming a lil'bit by, as per usual.

 

[RaisinBoy]

Why is this even in our forum?!? Whats next—- someone uploading racks from H&M?!??

 

[penny609]

Why is this even in our forum?!? Whats next—- someone uploading racks from H&M?!??

Who knows, why (k)not. Nothing really differs (in the end) between some so-called highly coveted, highly anticipated show and a H&M catalogue. Not even the budget (? - I'm bad at numbers, after all). Maybe the target audience and the packaging, that's all about it. And without crying out loud my love that doesn't exist for Margaret Howell, I've seen much worse posted here. Much, much and a million much worse. This collection is just what is it presented how it is. I wish it was differently done because I think it was worth a better intro. But, gotta agree, you can wholeheartedly disagree with the relevancy of Margart Howell's work and belonging to this area of TheFashionSpot.

 

[MulletProof]

Muji Labo is currently designed by Daiki Suzuki's team, the ones behind N.Hoolywood.

Still?!! how do you know this? genuine question! do they publish this now or do you just know through personal/professional life?. We were talking about Labo some time ago (click) and runner managed to find out that it was Daiki as of 2017.. so still the same designer in 2024?. I was just going through a lot of Labo on Friday, they somehow got a lot of menswear in the store closest to me (not womenswear sadly). The cuts are less classic than when Margaret was doing it circa 2015, which is ok but I miss the sharpness.

Casey Casey is soo Brooklyn hip mom in the summer imo, and APC is too.. geeky and.. close to the body. I don't know if it's just the novelty or the fact that it's a pop-up shop (tinier selection), but besides Uniqlo's U over the years (certainly not every season), some pieces from Uniqlo's GU also satisfy my occasional MH craving these days.

 

[tourbillions]

i can see why her works are all over japan everything looks easy to layer and high quality

 

[Kennnnn]

Still?!! how do you know this? genuine question! do they publish this now or do you just know through personal/professional life?. We were talking about Labo some time ago (click) and runner managed to find out that it was Daiki as of 2017.. so still the same designer in 2024?. I was just going through a lot of Labo on Friday, they somehow got a lot of menswear in the store closest to me (not womenswear sadly). The cuts are less classic than when Margaret was doing it circa 2015, which is ok but I miss the sharpness.

I'm so sorry I got my people mixed up. It's Daisuke Obana (N.Hoolywood) rather than Daiki, who does Engineered Garments. An article from this past January that confirms that Obana is still involved - https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/8ec52be469e4fc1ac9d9106bfa974a0bbf7ac085

I often miss the old Labo too! The current Labo can get a bit too experimental, and the sizing was an absolute disaster until they changed it maybe a year ago. But I still really like it overall.

Oh, GU is fabulous.

 

[MulletProof]

^ You should see what’s over here!. Muji’s sizing for the US market is just so rude! 🤣 ‘XL for us but for you, I guess that’s an XS’.

Glad to see some GU validation, I thought I was crazy cause the pop-up shop here is always packed with pre-teens lol.