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Really??...i also heard the book her sister wrote wasn't a very nice portrayal of Natalie
But no...actually it is 'Natalie Wood: A Life' by Gavin Lambert
And when i say she was a flirt and lost her virginity early..it wasn't said in a bad way at all in the book...it just mentioned her and her lovers and so forth and how she liked to flirt...but everyone has flirted before..so its no big deal to me that she was that way
But no...actually it is 'Natalie Wood: A Life' by Gavin Lambert
And when i say she was a flirt and lost her virginity early..it wasn't said in a bad way at all in the book...it just mentioned her and her lovers and so forth and how she liked to flirt...but everyone has flirted before..so its no big deal to me that she was that way
*tata* said:
again...don't believe all that you read. i don't believe a book has been written that fully captures the allure of natalie wood. lambert had little understanding of women in general and even less of a woman as complex as natalie. but, yes, she was a charming flirt...
natwood said:Josephine, are you talking about this picture?
or perhaps there's another fotolog that I'm not aware of
she looks amazing in this picture....I love her eyes here
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yes that's the picture - i hadn't seen it before...it's lovely
I don't take anything Lambert says as negative towards Natalie...he was a good friend of her's for years having met her and hit it off when he wrote "Inside Daisy Clover" although prior that he had been Nicholas Ray's asst. and Nicholas Ray while directing "Rebel Without a Cause" famously was rumoured to have had an affair with young Natalie. From wikipedia:gabbott said:
In 1957 he moved to Hollywood, California, in order to work there as a screenwriter and personal assistant to director Nicholas Ray, whose movie Bitter Victory (1957) he co-wrote. He claimed he became Ray's lover for a period of time.
So perhaps, he knew her more than you think!
Also from wikipedia:
His final biography, Natalie Wood: A Life (2004) supplied an insider's look at actress Natalie Wood and chronicled everything concerning her life, as Lambert was a Wood friend for 16 years.The book was praised by Natalie Wood's daughter, Natasha Gregson Wagner, as "a wonderful biography on my Mom. It will be the definitive biography on my mother." Lambert's biography includes Wood's relationship with Elvis Presley, interviews with the people who knew Wood best, such as Robert Wagner, Warren Beatty, Paul Mazursky, and Leslie Caron. In his book, Lambert controversially claimed that Wood frequently dated gay and bisexual men, including director Nicholas Ray and actors Nick Adams, Raymond Burr, James Dean, Tab Hunter and Scott Marlowe. Lambert said he was also involved with Ray and that Wood supported homosexual playwright Mart Crowley (a later lover of Lambert's) in a manner that made it possible for him to write his play, The Boys in the Band (1968).
sounds like Natalie was more open-minded and ahead of her time than most in the 50's early 60's
Of course, I agree, no book can fully capture anyone's full vibrancy but I think a good friend who knew and loved someone and spent time with them can come closer than someone who is just going off their own research having never met the person. Of course, sometimes they tend to "protect" the subject a bit more from criticism which Lambert was said by some to do. Natasha did approve this book and said it is the definitive bio on her mom.
Natalie as far as anything I have ever heard or read and I have read alot over the years was a very sexual being and was no innocent.
Nothing wrong with that in my book
ps- Natwood, karma for you with that amazing photo
I adore it!
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Wow!Orchide said:I am going to be meeting Tab Hunter on Saturday- should I ask about his dating Natalie if I can work up the nerve??
You always seem to meet famous people. 
You should definitely ask as many questions as you can about Natalie. I wonder what it would have been like working with her and just being around her. In on set pictures she always looks so fun and happy.I will be at Cinecon Ziegfeld 
wish you were here, you could meet me there.
I made a new sticky thread which is up top for us to write about classic film screenings and festivals.
Tab will be there for a screening of a film he did with Sophia Loren and then he will do a Q&A. If I am not too nervous, I will ask him about her. I will also try to get a picture taken with him
wish you were here, you could meet me there.I made a new sticky thread which is up top for us to write about classic film screenings and festivals.
Tab will be there for a screening of a film he did with Sophia Loren and then he will do a Q&A. If I am not too nervous, I will ask him about her. I will also try to get a picture taken with him
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I'm so jealous, you lucky thing.
Wow! how exciting!Orchide said:I am going to be meeting Tab Hunter on Saturday- should I ask about his dating Natalie if I can work up the nerve??
I hope you get a chance to ask him about Nat....what would he say about her?!
**fotolog.com/natalie_wood
oooh and thanks fot that Karma
Orchide said:I don't take anything Lambert says as negative towards Natalie...he was a good friend of her's for years having met her and hit it off when he wrote "Inside Daisy Clover" although prior that he had been Nicholas Ray's asst. and Nicholas Ray while directing "Rebel Without a Cause" famously was rumoured to have had an affair with young Natalie. From wikipedia:
In 1957 he moved to Hollywood, California, in order to work there as a screenwriter and personal assistant to director Nicholas Ray, whose movie Bitter Victory (1957) he co-wrote. He claimed he became Ray's lover for a period of time.
So perhaps, he knew her more than you think!
Also from wikipedia:
His final biography, Natalie Wood: A Life (2004) supplied an insider's look at actress Natalie Wood and chronicled everything concerning her life, as Lambert was a Wood friend for 16 years.The book was praised by Natalie Wood's daughter, Natasha Gregson Wagner, as "a wonderful biography on my Mom. It will be the definitive biography on my mother." Lambert's biography includes Wood's relationship with Elvis Presley, interviews with the people who knew Wood best, such as Robert Wagner, Warren Beatty, Paul Mazursky, and Leslie Caron. In his book, Lambert controversially claimed that Wood frequently dated gay and bisexual men, including director Nicholas Ray and actors Nick Adams, Raymond Burr, James Dean, Tab Hunter and Scott Marlowe. Lambert said he was also involved with Ray and that Wood supported homosexual playwright Mart Crowley (a later lover of Lambert's) in a manner that made it possible for him to write his play, The Boys in the Band (1968).
sounds like Natalie was more open-minded and ahead of her time than most in the 50's early 60's
Of course, I agree, no book can fully capture anyone's full vibrancy but I think a good friend who knew and loved someone and spent time with them can come closer than someone who is just going off their own research having never met the person. Of course, sometimes they tend to "protect" the subject a bit more from criticism which Lambert was said by some to do. Natasha did approve this book and said it is the definitive bio on her mom.
Natalie as far as anything I have ever heard or read and I have read alot over the years was a very sexual being and was no innocent.
Nothing wrong with that in my book
let me say this....i have been told by someone who worked with natalie for 17 years that lambert and natalie were not as close as he claimed.....but that's beside the point. the aspect of this book that i did not like was the fact that he used it to dust off some of the dirt that was thrown on rj by suzanne finstad in her "natasha"...and in doing so...he sacrificed natalie...he seemed intent on making rj look good...too much so....it seemed that rj was looking over lambert's shoulder. i don't believe that was the case but to the average reader that was the impression that was given....read the amazon reviews. also, natasha made that statement before she read the book... a better book could be written by someone who was more objective. lambert showed no objectivity toward rj....and i am by no means saying that natalie was innocent..she was a very sexual woman..way ahead of her time...i ,too , have been reading about natalie for a very long time. she liked men...men liked her... that is not what i am referring to when i tell people not to believe what they read...but there have been many things that have been written about her that are not true or exaggerated...i have been following natalie's life for 40 years. there is a lot of contradictions...
^ well, Gabbott, to bring up RJ now is not what I was originally responding to...
Up above, Tata said:
I am more likely to agree with you on the RJ thing so no worries, I get ya.
On her daughter, I have met her a handful of times- she and I have similar friends but I would never feel appropriate to bring up her mom- that would be extremely tacky. She has her mother's dainty figure. She once bought a gorgeous cream 20's lace dress my friend made at a lil party we had- it was a one-of-a-kind and she went right to it. She clearly has her mom's good style and taste.
Anyways...
...what a great shot of Tab and Natalie, NatWood 
I may try to make a scan copy of that one for him to sign and then I could ask him about her...hmmm...*puts on thinking cap*
Up above, Tata said:
and this was the statement you seemed to be saying was what was false and grossly exaggerated.
I am more likely to agree with you on the RJ thing so no worries, I get ya
.On her daughter, I have met her a handful of times- she and I have similar friends but I would never feel appropriate to bring up her mom- that would be extremely tacky. She has her mother's dainty figure. She once bought a gorgeous cream 20's lace dress my friend made at a lil party we had- it was a one-of-a-kind and she went right to it. She clearly has her mom's good style and taste.
Anyways...
...what a great shot of Tab and Natalie, NatWood I may try to make a scan copy of that one for him to sign and then I could ask him about her...hmmm...*puts on thinking cap*
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i'm sorry...i have read so much over the years..so much has been written that is totally untrue or exagerrated....that's the point i tried to make. sorry about that...how nice that you've met natasha...do you think that she looks like her mom? i see some of richard gregson in her,,,,natalie's daughters are both so pretty.....and as well they should be...lol...
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