Pyer Moss Haute Couture F/W 2021.22 New York

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[marsnoop2]

What in the moschino? And I mean that with no offense to Jeremy Scott since I find his collections to have so much whimsy. This not so much.

 

[GERGIN]

Beyond tragic, I feel sorry for the audience that had to endure all that heat just for this lol. I did watch the livestream and was hopeful after that brilliant speech…but…NO lol.

 

[dior_couture1245]

Potentially one of the worst collections of all time.

 

[Deleted member 1957]

I wish he had put this in an exhibit for the message and shown an actual collection showcasing his technique and more couture not this more Avant Garde style venturing on camp.

 

[dior_couture1245]

^^There is nothing remotely Avant Garde or even Camp about this….it’s so poorly done, it’s on the same level as elementary school play costumes.

 

[THD96]

In a way this debut is even worse than Olivier first Balmain couture collection. At least with Olivier his tackiness was backup by skills and establishment. And the clothes still somewhat wearable.

This show is not about celebrate the clothes, it's celebrate everything else (the history, the messages, the performance). And when the clothes are not your priority, what is the point?

Who is this for? Is this collection created for people to buy and wear it. Or it just a stunt to be the first to do it. The intention behind it not sincere, it's not about the finest craftsmanship or techniques. This just another tool for him to build more hype around his brand.

Haute Couture deserve better.

 

[GivenchyAddict]

The way some people have the talent to reach this level of cheap is unbelievable.

This collection is not even worthy for project runway. Even them, they deserve better. This man has no right at all to give his opinion on other people's work and on fashion.

I have never hated a collection so much in my life.

 

[GreyVetiver]

I didn’t have any expectations for this show knowing the kind of designer he is but I was still hoping for a pleasant surprise.

First, I see that he attempts to do whimsical clothes like Jeremy Scott but I feel like that’s an insult to Jeremy as nothing is elevated here. I don’t know what his motives are for doing this “couture” collection, possibly just for publicity? I don’t know. Nor do I care. Second, calling it a Couture is simply a disrespect for designers who actually possess the skills to make Couture.

He really should just stick with doing street wear and milk as much money as possible.

 

[YohjiAddict]

Very few collections have actually made my skin crawl...the fact that some people have the shamelessness to call this "genius".

Only in the United States can a "Black History class" consist of listing down such great inventions as peanut butter (?) to then turn them into cheap costumes...this is dumb even conceptually.

And I thought Area last season was insulting...

 

[MulletProof]

I just can't have the energy to hate on this.. but I will say: this is like when a secondary character in some daytime soap opera (Days of Our Lives or anything on Univision really) leaves for Paris to ~model haute couture~ and she's like.. a chandelier, the Titanic.. cause you know, it's fashun, can't be explained, it's fun. I blame Galliano for creating this misunderstanding some 25 years ago..

Frankly I don't know who this man or woman is but I'm assuming it's a one-time thing that we will not have to see again..

Also, the audience are all paid actors who were flown there through the budget of some money laundering scheme.

 

[dfl-001]

Exactly what is he trying to tell us with this !??

 

[susseinmcswanny]

I don't even know if it's appropriate for me to comment on this. Couture as it is can be so problematic and irrelevant today. I was so hoping he would take this opportunity to come in and rock us by expressing his ideas, feelings, and experience through the craft of making clothes to connect with people. This was a complete missed opportunity. If what he is trying to tell us is truly this display of.... crude consumer capitalism... I don't even know what to say. I can't take him seriously. He's barking up the wrong tree

 

[Lola701]

I already said pretty much what I wanted to say on the Haute Couture thread but I had an interesting discussion about this show with an Black American friend of mine who was at the show.
And it was kinda embarrassing because being at the show, she was moved by the intention and was into the moment. It felt historic because it was dramatic and she failed to understand the lack of echo in the world…

I simply explained to her that « the clothes were just forgettable. Worst, it felt like an after though ».
This is the worst here….
Kerby is trying to insert himself in the narrative with those greats. It’s an homage to those figures who invented those things. Those figures made history because what they did was great. Kerby wants to make history because he decided to be the « first ».

Nobody is celebrating the greatness of his work but the cultural importance of it…Or at least relevance.

And I really don’t get the decision of being in the Couture calendar, to show in the US, celebrating something part of US history.

When you decides to be part of history, you needs to be where it happens.

I can’t imagine Stephen Burrows say that he was part of the Battle of Versailles because suddenly, they projected a film of his collection between Halston collection and Lisa Minelli Broadway number.


I see a lot of ego here and not a lot of greatness that deserves to be celebrated.

 

[mepps]

I'm embarrassed for him.
In no way is any of that, couture.
He had no business being in Paris with this, and
and it's just as bad as I knew it would be when they invited him.
They're laughing at him over cocktails in some Salon.

 

[RedSmokeRise]

I don't mind the intent at all. But the ideation and the execution is just so...literal?

You can be inspired by curtain rods but then to actually have the model wear curtain rods. I mean come on!

 

[MulletProof]

He had no business being in Paris with this

ha, I'm glad someone is as confused as I am, not only do I not know who this is, turns out (judging by Lola's post above), he didn't show in Paris either , this was shown in.. New York?! so this is technically a NYFW act (plugging him into the HC schedule for PR is beside the point). Why is everyone so invested then? why were there any expectations? why are people familiar with him and why does this even have a thread? too many questions (that I hope no one answers, ignorance is bliss)..

 

[jeanclaude]

Trick or Treat!!!

 

[Deleted member 1957]

Nobody is celebrating the greatness of his work but the cultural importance of it…Or at least relevance.

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This is what people need to understand, in the end a couture show is still a fashion show despite all the drama, theatrics and pomp. We didn't see much of fashion unfortunately.

 

[Melancholybaby]

I had so many questions upon seeing this ("who's funding this?" being the main one) but once I stopped thinking about this as haute couture (lol) or clothing in general, it quickly became the funniest thing I've seen all week.

Pyer Moss Pays Homage to Black American Inventions with Sleek Cornrows and Ice-Cream-Sprinkle Nails | Vogue
Pyer Moss’ first couture show was a celebration of Black innovation | i-D
Pyer Moss adds commentary on black erasure to Paris couture week | The Guardian
Dancing Despite the Rain | The New York Times

Just like @Phuel said, good for him, making fools of an entire industry of people, suckering them into pretending to care/support whatever his brand is. You'd have to have the self-awareness of a caterpillar not to know you're a complete charlatan, keeping a straight face while giving a speech on black innovation, only to go on and subject your audience to this.