RISMAT by Y's F/W 2015.16 Lookbook
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oooh...
i like it too...
scrumptious knits...
tres cool...
thanks runner...
just when i begin to think that i already have everything and there is nothing left to find...
because we know that everyone copies everyone and everything begins to look the same...
but i don't have anything like any of this...
and it's all good!
v. nice...
i like it too...
scrumptious knits...
tres cool...
thanks runner...
just when i begin to think that i already have everything and there is nothing left to find...
because we know that everyone copies everyone and everything begins to look the same...
but i don't have anything like any of this...
and it's all good!
v. nice...
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I don't really enjoy any of these Y's off-shot labels they have been doing lately. There has been such a coming-and-going of designers working in the Yohji Yamamoto studios but I don't really see more than a polite continuation of casual clothes 'in the style of Yohji Yamamoto' without that certain 'almost couture' gesture that only Yohji (or maybe his former right hand man, Koji Nagano, who was an integral part of his Y's and Yohji Yamamoto pour Femme studios until the mid 2000's) can bring.
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^ I woudn't say yes to everything they do. and actually there are new lines from them which I'm not interested in at all.
but frankly, your post reminds me a bit of someone noble from the past who happens to be thrown by the time macine into today's gym and misses the overwhelming elegance.
rismat is a pre-fall. I think what they should do had been done more than rightly here.
generally speaking, looking back on a certain period you happened to see when you were grewing up as the best and describing it as the good old days is discriminating forgetfullness. some fans since the 70's regarded it as conversion, when yohji started to show "couture gesture". their love of their own time and their own koji nagano is understandable. but they were definitely forgetting that, while on the surface the history of yohji yamamoto is that of renegade (or self-negation), YY is the demonstration of the concept fueki ryukou.
but frankly, your post reminds me a bit of someone noble from the past who happens to be thrown by the time macine into today's gym and misses the overwhelming elegance.
rismat is a pre-fall. I think what they should do had been done more than rightly here.
generally speaking, looking back on a certain period you happened to see when you were grewing up as the best and describing it as the good old days is discriminating forgetfullness. some fans since the 70's regarded it as conversion, when yohji started to show "couture gesture". their love of their own time and their own koji nagano is understandable. but they were definitely forgetting that, while on the surface the history of yohji yamamoto is that of renegade (or self-negation), YY is the demonstration of the concept fueki ryukou.
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You could say that, yes. But there is no denial that there is an evolvement with most of the lines designed under the Yohji Yamamoto umbrella to look a whole lot more 'streetwear' if you want, focussing on 'staples' that have been repeated so many times (beginning with the rightfully closed 'Coming Soon' line that was all but a disaster). It's alright if there is an outlet for that and I understand not every Yohji customer wants the 'grand gesture' of the mainline, but there is no need to do what seems like an endless riff on the same sarouel trousers, knits and basic wool gabardine blazers in all of the Yohji collections. You ultimately want to address different needs with each of those lines and not have them compete with one another.
I am also pointing out that specific time frame in the early to mid 2000s because I firmly believe that Y's having a runway show in Paris made the team deliver more specific, often times also more intricately detailed pieces - Epitomized maybe by the insanely craft-y AW'2003 collection with it's Shibori-dyed, hand-frayed and later on hand-crocheted gabardine pieces.
I am also pointing out that specific time frame in the early to mid 2000s because I firmly believe that Y's having a runway show in Paris made the team deliver more specific, often times also more intricately detailed pieces - Epitomized maybe by the insanely craft-y AW'2003 collection with it's Shibori-dyed, hand-frayed and later on hand-crocheted gabardine pieces.
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as we know, there was when he had to present YY femme during couture week. and at the same time he had to keep his presence in the pretaporter venue. that's why he did runways for Y's there back then and we got to see femme worthy content in the form of Y's.
points in your last post are valid and include things they probably had better listen to, but not here.
again I'd say this collection in this thread has nothing to be desired as a pre-fall. there is some craft too, like hand-crocheted needle-punched piece etc, but done lightly with less drama.
the Y's period, koji nagano and occasionally along with coming soon being mentioned when the stuff is not your cup of tea is now more than just a dejavu. it's a leitmotif.
I didn't think expecting what you think only yohji and koji can do when you know they are not involved could be anything other than a difficult kid's refusal of evanescence or an old man's whining about his dislike of change.
points in your last post are valid and include things they probably had better listen to, but not here.
again I'd say this collection in this thread has nothing to be desired as a pre-fall. there is some craft too, like hand-crocheted needle-punched piece etc, but done lightly with less drama.
the Y's period, koji nagano and occasionally along with coming soon being mentioned when the stuff is not your cup of tea is now more than just a dejavu. it's a leitmotif.
I didn't think expecting what you think only yohji and koji can do when you know they are not involved could be anything other than a difficult kid's refusal of evanescence or an old man's whining about his dislike of change.
