Stephan Schneider AW 04/05

[Johnny]

Here we go. Pictures from catwalking.com

 

[Johnny]

And some more

 

[helena]

'tis nice!

 

[faust]

Kinda bland, no? Quieteness works for his womenswear, but I just don't feel it here.

 

[helena]

i find it refreshingly unglam faust.

 

[faust]

i find it refreshingly unglam faust.

I'm all anti-glam, but I'm anti-bland too .

 

[Johnny]

Couple more

 

[Johnny]

I have to say I really like it. It is quite dull, but I still find it appealling. Like the drab palate and the parkas look really nice, quite slim cut.

 

[faust]

Couple more

The left jacket is cool.

Now that I'm looking at my post above, Helena, I sincerely hope you didn't take offense.

 

[helena]

faust - as you said before its good to share our honest opinions without fear of offending each other.

yours blandly

helena

p.s the parka is gorge! its blue!

 

[faust]

faust - as you said before its good to share our honest opinions without fear of offending each other.

yours blandly

helena

p.s the parka is gorge! its blue!

Thanks! Just checking

 

[marrimoda]

But I think for a collection to be good -- it has to capture SOMETHING. For me this was neither interesting for its color, its tailoring was not so hot, proportions seem off. It definetly doesnt draw me in...I think it is entirely forgettable.

 

[helena]

can a collection not be good simply because the clothes appeal to you....?

 

[faust]

can a collection not be good simply because the clothes appeal to you....?

Of course, but than it becomes only a matter of personal taste (nothing wrong with that). I'm treading on thin ice with that statement, I know, but I guess what I'm trying to differenciate is the personal taste appeal (more subjective) from critical analysis (more or less objective, never fully of course, but more so). Givenchy's collection for example, I wouldn't wear any of it, but I can say that it's a good collection. Does that make any sense?

 

[marrimoda]

well then in that case helena, it is good for you. Thats fine. Its not so for me. just opinions right? no offense?

 

[helena]

no faust I agree - one can appreciate the skill or vision of a collection without having to like it as such. But I think that almost always fits within the parameters of your own taste. For example, galliano is skilled (and I can see that) but I don't see his collections as anything other than bad. Thats because its not aesthetically appealing to me. But it may be to someone else who is just as informed as I am.... I can appreciate what Raf Simons does because that fits within the spectrum of what is attractive to me. But is a Raf Simons collection objectively better than an Ann Demeulemeester one? or can we only compare a Raf collection with another Raf collection? In which case is it not still personal taste - or is it about the designer making a statement with the collection.... or moving in a new direction...bit what if its a crap statement or a bad direction.... I don't know. I tend to have a more emotive response - thats why I would be a terrible fashion critic.

...or is it just an appreciation.

marrimoda - absolutely no offense taken - I find it interesting thats all... I like to understand where others are coming from. I find it hard to see a collection as a whole & not as a series of clothes....

 

[faust]

no faust I agree - one can appreciate the skill or vision of a collection without having to like it as such. But I think that almost always fits within the parameters of your own taste. For example, galliano is skilled (and I can see that) but I don't see his collections as anything other than bad. Thats because its not aesthetically appealing to me. But it may be to someone else who is just as informed as I am.... I can appreciate what Raf Simons does because that fits within the spectrum of what is attractive to me. But is a Raf Simons collection objectively better than an Ann Demeulemeester one? or can we only compare a Raf collection with another Raf collection? In which case is it not still personal taste - or is it about the designer making a statement with the collection.... or moving in a new direction...bit what if its a crap statement or a bad direction.... I don't know. I tend to have a more emotive response - thats why I would be a terrible fashion critic.

...or is it just an appreciation.

Objectively, it's not better/worse, but different. It's hard to get away from scaling and comparisons, that's true, but I think we should try. Agree about the aesthetical appeal, it's part of critisism, and that's why critisism is never objective. Another thing about aesthetics is that I take strong objection with the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" as a universal statement. I think there is certain beauty that is commonly seen, just as ugliness is commonly seen. It then differenciates into personal tastes, but before that, I think there is a certain sphere the differences stem from.

Anyway, good news for you and Johnny is that Stephen Schneider is very affordable, so if you guys like it (and I like the womenswear myself very much), I think you should look into stocklists.

 

[Scott]

I don't think its necessarily bland just extremely easy. It's okay,and I do like some of the coats,but I think I prefer his work in womenswear more so than his menswear.

 

[Scott]

btw,thanks Johnny(in case you don't catch on the "favorites" thread).

 

[Spacemiu]

I like the sweters and the grey coat.