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^i hope so!! i can stand it anymore.....
The Celeb Fashion Era...
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The only "celeb" line that I've grown to respect is Sean John. Although, Puff is obnoxious and grossly over the top, I think Sean John has managed to inch it's way out of the "Urban" box. Don't get me wrong his core pieces are still the jeans, Varsity jackets, hoodies, etc., but is consumer base goes way beyond hip hop culture which is where the line started.
Like someone mentioned, celeb lines are powered by fans. But to be successful you have to be able to expand on that. Jennifer Lopez name is mud in the public eye all of her serial dating/marriages. When you have old women calling you J-Ho, I don't think you can totally bank on your name outside of your core audience. Whereas Puff, although not the most modest guy in the world, is someone that all types of people want to hang out and party with.
Just my two cents.
Like someone mentioned, celeb lines are powered by fans. But to be successful you have to be able to expand on that. Jennifer Lopez name is mud in the public eye all of her serial dating/marriages. When you have old women calling you J-Ho, I don't think you can totally bank on your name outside of your core audience. Whereas Puff, although not the most modest guy in the world, is someone that all types of people want to hang out and party with.
Just my two cents.
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Sweetface??? 
I think the above statement pretty much sums it all.
Celebrities have been doing these sorts of things for ages. Actors who are not really actors become directors and producers, leaving no room for the talented professionals; they make records, have their face printed on shampoo bottles and now fashion is their latest playground. Some way around the corner there will be another publicity stunt waiting for them.
The whole thing is a dirty cheesy business sell job.
Yes,its pretty disgusting...having been a design student, I'd like to think that I have more a right to market myself as a designer than these celebs. But I try to be realistic. HOpefully there will be a backlash, a public rejection of this stuff.
When investors realise that outside of lopez' core fan base, the rest of us dont want to be caught wearing something with these looks or worse, clothes with a "sweetface" label...theyll stop going to her for these licensing deals. The truth of the matter is, people who buy this stuff are not looking for "fashion" they are looking for souveniers...something to give them the look of the jennifer lopez image...like someone said before its fanwear and thats a good name for it. They should sell it in celebrity souvenier shops, not alongside more contemplated fashion. then again lopez did say shes not trying to be a designer...these clothes are her "styling".
Yes,its pretty disgusting...having been a design student, I'd like to think that I have more a right to market myself as a designer than these celebs. But I try to be realistic. HOpefully there will be a backlash, a public rejection of this stuff.
When investors realise that outside of lopez' core fan base, the rest of us dont want to be caught wearing something with these looks or worse, clothes with a "sweetface" label...theyll stop going to her for these licensing deals. The truth of the matter is, people who buy this stuff are not looking for "fashion" they are looking for souveniers...something to give them the look of the jennifer lopez image...like someone said before its fanwear and thats a good name for it. They should sell it in celebrity souvenier shops, not alongside more contemplated fashion. then again lopez did say shes not trying to be a designer...these clothes are her "styling".
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marrimoda said:
Can we give you a bullhorn and stand you in the middle of time square and make this announcement to wake up the world??? These are kids who think J.Lo (and whoever else for that matter) is a god and want to emmulate her (or anyone else for that matter). So sad.....
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From Suzy Menkes (International Herald Tribune
Will Lopez be next style queen?
Two striking events will wrap up this week of American collections. On Friday, the sultry singer, dancer and movie star Jennifer Lopez will show her talent as a fashion designer; and on Saturday the artist Christo and his partner Jeanne-Claude will dress the paths of Central Park in golden cloth, completing a $20 million project planned over 25 years. .It doesn't take much to imagine which will be the city's more historic event. But the fashion world is counting on JLo (which she no longer wishes to be called) to become the new queen of urban style.
That title currently belongs to Kimora Lee Simmons, the striking and statuesque designer of Baby Phat, sister company to Phat Farm, set up in 1992 by her husband Russel Simmons, the hip hop mogul. As she showed at the weekend her latest designs inspired by James Bond girls, Kimora Lee had some advice for La Lopez.
"I would tell her, you have to stay dedicated, even if people don't like it. You have to have your own style - I've been doing fashion since I was 12 years old," Simmons said, referring to her modeling career that was jump-started when Karl Lagerfeld picked her as a pre-teen for Chanel.
Now that the Lagerfeld brand has been bought by Tommy Hifiger, the designer is just another fashion competitor. At the Baby Phat show, Hilfiger said that he has found a showroom and photographic studio by Chelsea harbor and intends for his new designer to show there - and to produce his own collection of fine jewelry.
Meanwhile, Andy Hilfiger, Tommy's brother, is the manager behind the Jennifer Lopez Sweetface label. Sean (P. Diddy) Combs (a former partner of Lopez) has not only launched his own Sean John line but has also invested in the aspiring designer Zac Posen. And Boy George, sometime pop star and leading DJ, has launched this week his first (men's) collection based on the outrageous Culture Club outfits of the 1980s.
The celebrity culture is now so deeply ingrained in American fashion that the spotlight is turning from the front row guests to star designers. In yet another twist, reality TV is electing to make unknowns famous, as the Bravo channel's "Project Runway," with the model Heidi Klum as its presenter, reaches its climax with a decision on which designer will be crowned with success and the chance to develop a business.
Simmons, 30, is the celebrity designer's role model. And if she gets into a catfight with Lopez, she has found a secret weapon: Hello Kitty. The designer is helping the kiddies' favorite to be better known in the urban communities. So Kitty has been made up in diamonds to swing at the cleavage of Simmons' plunge-front white cat suit. The Hello Kitty pendant joined the 40 carat diamond ring on the designer's left hand and the new "right hand" ring - a circle of flower petals from the collection of "Diamond Diva" fine jewelry that Simmons has created. Then there is also that pink diamond encrusted mobile phone for Motorola as a sign of glam power.
This multi-cultural material girl, with a feline logo and a television personality, has made millions, especially since the Baby Phat and Phat Farm brands were sold to the Kellwood company (owner of Liz Claiborne and Nautica) for $140 million last year. The collection that Simmons sent out seemed to have nothing much to do with the Baby Phat bomber jackets and T-shirts seen on the streets. Instead, the super sexy silhouettes, fur capes, flashy cut-out swimsuits and lacy hose had a familiar trashy look. But the audience, including Lil' Kim, Missy Elliott, Usher and Tori Spelling, inevitably cheered the show.
The Jennifer Lopez show is expected to be the same sort of zoo, with chaotic crowd control and a stellar front row. But it remains to be seen whether they will see variations on sexy, midriff-baring casualwear as defined by Juicy Couture or the kind of glam fest that JLo created with the jungle print, open-front Versace gown that she wore to the Grammys in 2000.
And what about Christo?
His dressing up of 23 miles, or 37 kilometers, of pathways in Central Park is just taking off. The color will be saffron and "The Gates" (7,500 of them) that give their name to the project will be put in place this week, with the climax on Saturday. And unlike the fashion shows that live and die in a day, the Christo presentation will run until Feb. 27.
Will Lopez be next style queen?
Two striking events will wrap up this week of American collections. On Friday, the sultry singer, dancer and movie star Jennifer Lopez will show her talent as a fashion designer; and on Saturday the artist Christo and his partner Jeanne-Claude will dress the paths of Central Park in golden cloth, completing a $20 million project planned over 25 years. .It doesn't take much to imagine which will be the city's more historic event. But the fashion world is counting on JLo (which she no longer wishes to be called) to become the new queen of urban style.
That title currently belongs to Kimora Lee Simmons, the striking and statuesque designer of Baby Phat, sister company to Phat Farm, set up in 1992 by her husband Russel Simmons, the hip hop mogul. As she showed at the weekend her latest designs inspired by James Bond girls, Kimora Lee had some advice for La Lopez.
"I would tell her, you have to stay dedicated, even if people don't like it. You have to have your own style - I've been doing fashion since I was 12 years old," Simmons said, referring to her modeling career that was jump-started when Karl Lagerfeld picked her as a pre-teen for Chanel.
Now that the Lagerfeld brand has been bought by Tommy Hifiger, the designer is just another fashion competitor. At the Baby Phat show, Hilfiger said that he has found a showroom and photographic studio by Chelsea harbor and intends for his new designer to show there - and to produce his own collection of fine jewelry.
Meanwhile, Andy Hilfiger, Tommy's brother, is the manager behind the Jennifer Lopez Sweetface label. Sean (P. Diddy) Combs (a former partner of Lopez) has not only launched his own Sean John line but has also invested in the aspiring designer Zac Posen. And Boy George, sometime pop star and leading DJ, has launched this week his first (men's) collection based on the outrageous Culture Club outfits of the 1980s.
The celebrity culture is now so deeply ingrained in American fashion that the spotlight is turning from the front row guests to star designers. In yet another twist, reality TV is electing to make unknowns famous, as the Bravo channel's "Project Runway," with the model Heidi Klum as its presenter, reaches its climax with a decision on which designer will be crowned with success and the chance to develop a business.
Simmons, 30, is the celebrity designer's role model. And if she gets into a catfight with Lopez, she has found a secret weapon: Hello Kitty. The designer is helping the kiddies' favorite to be better known in the urban communities. So Kitty has been made up in diamonds to swing at the cleavage of Simmons' plunge-front white cat suit. The Hello Kitty pendant joined the 40 carat diamond ring on the designer's left hand and the new "right hand" ring - a circle of flower petals from the collection of "Diamond Diva" fine jewelry that Simmons has created. Then there is also that pink diamond encrusted mobile phone for Motorola as a sign of glam power.
This multi-cultural material girl, with a feline logo and a television personality, has made millions, especially since the Baby Phat and Phat Farm brands were sold to the Kellwood company (owner of Liz Claiborne and Nautica) for $140 million last year. The collection that Simmons sent out seemed to have nothing much to do with the Baby Phat bomber jackets and T-shirts seen on the streets. Instead, the super sexy silhouettes, fur capes, flashy cut-out swimsuits and lacy hose had a familiar trashy look. But the audience, including Lil' Kim, Missy Elliott, Usher and Tori Spelling, inevitably cheered the show.
The Jennifer Lopez show is expected to be the same sort of zoo, with chaotic crowd control and a stellar front row. But it remains to be seen whether they will see variations on sexy, midriff-baring casualwear as defined by Juicy Couture or the kind of glam fest that JLo created with the jungle print, open-front Versace gown that she wore to the Grammys in 2000.
And what about Christo?
His dressing up of 23 miles, or 37 kilometers, of pathways in Central Park is just taking off. The color will be saffron and "The Gates" (7,500 of them) that give their name to the project will be put in place this week, with the climax on Saturday. And unlike the fashion shows that live and die in a day, the Christo presentation will run until Feb. 27.
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from another wwd article...it seems to be what's on everyone's mind these days ...
people seem to be rather unhappy about all the celebs attempting to hijack the fashion industry...
As the adorable Lil’ Kim arrived at the Jennifer Lopez show on Friday night, her hair a marcelled plaster fastened by monster diamond bows matching her cartoon-sexpot indiscretion, she caused the inevitable paparazzi madness. Taking in the scene, one couldn’t help but register how strange indeed these times are in fashion, especially in New York, mired in the frenzy — some would say folly — of the celebrity launch-a-minute. Here was the fashion crowd turning out in droves at 8 p.m. on Friday after a week crammed with collections, waiting for a credential-free designer to raise the curtain.
Certainly Lopez has done her part as an ambassador of fashion. She owns a strong style, as do Beyoncé Knowles, Jessica Simpson, Gwen Stefani and all the other pop stars lined up to cash in on the images they’ve developed with the help of countless designers, stylists, hairdressers, makeup people and other handlers. But does the mere act of working a fashion look with bravado qualify someone as a designer? Probably no other profession, including other design-related fields, gives off a vibe as welcoming as fashion: “I wear clothes well, therefore I am a designer.” Would the same confidence, some might say hubris, transfer to other disciplines? “I sit in modern chairs, therefore I am a furniture designer.” “I have a chic roof over my head, therefore I am an architect.”
Granted, fashion doesn’t involve designing a building that won’t fall down. But lest we forget, it is hard. It requires talent, skill and, at its highest level, years of dedication and toil, a notion all but buried in the obsession to keep up with which pop star will launch when. Which is not to reject the possibility of crossover success; the Sean Jean collection, for example, is a rare hit, although even P. Diddy has learned that women’s is an entirely different reality.
Success as a designer — not as a fancy figurehead, but as a designer — requires more than the ability to dress one’s self flamboyantly, or, more likely, to find the right advisers. How about a point of view, a vision, that brings something distinctive to the party?
people seem to be rather unhappy about all the celebs attempting to hijack the fashion industry...
As the adorable Lil’ Kim arrived at the Jennifer Lopez show on Friday night, her hair a marcelled plaster fastened by monster diamond bows matching her cartoon-sexpot indiscretion, she caused the inevitable paparazzi madness. Taking in the scene, one couldn’t help but register how strange indeed these times are in fashion, especially in New York, mired in the frenzy — some would say folly — of the celebrity launch-a-minute. Here was the fashion crowd turning out in droves at 8 p.m. on Friday after a week crammed with collections, waiting for a credential-free designer to raise the curtain.
Certainly Lopez has done her part as an ambassador of fashion. She owns a strong style, as do Beyoncé Knowles, Jessica Simpson, Gwen Stefani and all the other pop stars lined up to cash in on the images they’ve developed with the help of countless designers, stylists, hairdressers, makeup people and other handlers. But does the mere act of working a fashion look with bravado qualify someone as a designer? Probably no other profession, including other design-related fields, gives off a vibe as welcoming as fashion: “I wear clothes well, therefore I am a designer.” Would the same confidence, some might say hubris, transfer to other disciplines? “I sit in modern chairs, therefore I am a furniture designer.” “I have a chic roof over my head, therefore I am an architect.”
Granted, fashion doesn’t involve designing a building that won’t fall down. But lest we forget, it is hard. It requires talent, skill and, at its highest level, years of dedication and toil, a notion all but buried in the obsession to keep up with which pop star will launch when. Which is not to reject the possibility of crossover success; the Sean Jean collection, for example, is a rare hit, although even P. Diddy has learned that women’s is an entirely different reality.
Success as a designer — not as a fancy figurehead, but as a designer — requires more than the ability to dress one’s self flamboyantly, or, more likely, to find the right advisers. How about a point of view, a vision, that brings something distinctive to the party?
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it gets me really mad.. i'm totally moving to Europe, that place is like the best.
B)brian said:
Sasly enough, I don't think this is the truth....this celeb era is really only starting to unfold now with the Jennifer Lopez show and the coming Beyonce show...it used to be that celebs only did accesoiries or spin-of collections....these complete collections under their own names are just starting so I think the saturation point will come later, after some more celebs will have decided to design too (perhaps Britney, or Paris
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I have a question that I have been wondering for a very long time.
Is there any room left for aspiring designers who want to own their own clothing, jewelry, and accessory lines? With all of the celebrities, like J LO, P Diddy, Beyonce, Nelly, Gwen Stefani, Eve and all of the rest of these celebrities who are creating clothing lines, Jewelry lines, and accessory line out here, I know that it maybe creating jobs for people out here, but what about those who want to own their own lines? Is there any room left for aspiring designers to have successful businesses/lines being that there are many celebrities who are doing the same thing?
I want to start my own clothing line one day in my life, but I wonder if I would be wasting my time doing so, since there are so many celebrities who are stealing the design status from the real designers?
Also, how long does everyone thing that celebrity lines will last? Does anyone think that they will last a very, very, very, very long time?
thanks
Is there any room left for aspiring designers who want to own their own clothing, jewelry, and accessory lines? With all of the celebrities, like J LO, P Diddy, Beyonce, Nelly, Gwen Stefani, Eve and all of the rest of these celebrities who are creating clothing lines, Jewelry lines, and accessory line out here, I know that it maybe creating jobs for people out here, but what about those who want to own their own lines? Is there any room left for aspiring designers to have successful businesses/lines being that there are many celebrities who are doing the same thing?
I want to start my own clothing line one day in my life, but I wonder if I would be wasting my time doing so, since there are so many celebrities who are stealing the design status from the real designers?
Also, how long does everyone thing that celebrity lines will last? Does anyone think that they will last a very, very, very, very long time?
thanks
Fashiongirl1 said:I have a question that I have been wondering for a very long time.
Is there any room left for aspiring designers who want to own their own clothing, jewelry, and accessory lines? With all of the celebrities, like J LO, P Diddy, Beyonce, Nelly, Gwen Stefani, Eve and all of the rest of these celebrities who are creating clothing lines, Jewelry lines, and accessory line out here, I know that it maybe creating jobs for people out here, but what about those who want to own their own lines? Is there any room left for aspiring designers to have successful businesses/lines being that there are many celebrities who are doing the same thing?
I want to start my own clothing line one day in my life, but I wonder if I would be wasting my time doing so, since there are so many celebrities who are stealing the design status from the real designers?
Also, how long does everyone thing that celebrity lines will last? Does anyone think that they will last a very, very, very, very long time?
thanks
I thought about that the other day...I too want to create my own line someday. If you look at the new schedule for the Spring 06 collections, it's full with celeb designers, and tons of new names as well. I don't think it's a waste of time, but I do think that it does nothing to help emerging talent. As with most celeb lines, they are hot when they come out, and then become an after thought. I think that "fashion people" realize that most of the lines are crap, but praise it anyway in an effort to keep the celebs happy. Anyway, that's just my opinion...And as for how long celeb lines will last, ask Ryan Seacrest how his line is doing in about a year and a half
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Where can I find the schedule for the spring 06 collections?
Also, what is the celeb designing process, how is it different from the designing process from a real designer? I know that some celeb designers are more involved with their collections than others, but Where do they find their design team? How do they find their design team? I am talking about celebs and real designers?
I was thinking that with a good business plan and marketing strategy that new talent from a real designers can be just as popular as a celeb designer, but then I started having second thoughts... Celebs license their names to clothing lines, because their name is worth millions of dollars (this is what I believe, correct me if I am wrong). A new designer who no one knows about comes through, and maybe successful, or may not be successful but the world still doesn't know who he or she is.
It just seems that there is no room left for new and emerging talent now that there are tons of celebs showing their collections in fashion week (which seems to be the new and emerging "Talent"), and coming out with their own lines. How are the new designers supposed to get recognition? I am doing a lot of research about the business world, and I am currently learning how to write a business plan. I plan on going to a few seminars, and I am trying to teach myself how to sew, patternmaking, draping, etc... But seriously, its sort of a discouragement for me, because I really want to be a successful designer.
thanks
Also, what is the celeb designing process, how is it different from the designing process from a real designer? I know that some celeb designers are more involved with their collections than others, but Where do they find their design team? How do they find their design team? I am talking about celebs and real designers?
I was thinking that with a good business plan and marketing strategy that new talent from a real designers can be just as popular as a celeb designer, but then I started having second thoughts... Celebs license their names to clothing lines, because their name is worth millions of dollars (this is what I believe, correct me if I am wrong). A new designer who no one knows about comes through, and maybe successful, or may not be successful but the world still doesn't know who he or she is.
It just seems that there is no room left for new and emerging talent now that there are tons of celebs showing their collections in fashion week (which seems to be the new and emerging "Talent"), and coming out with their own lines. How are the new designers supposed to get recognition? I am doing a lot of research about the business world, and I am currently learning how to write a business plan. I plan on going to a few seminars, and I am trying to teach myself how to sew, patternmaking, draping, etc... But seriously, its sort of a discouragement for me, because I really want to be a successful designer.
thanks
I'm bringing this thread back because my anger has to be thrown somewhere...
I can't drive my grandma's cadallic without running over another celebrity with a "fashion line".
Jessica Simpson's shoe line *gag*
JLO's brand *gag*
Beyonce's clothing line.. haven't seen it yet but I'm sure I'll *gag*
I saw a clip of Hilary Duff gushing over her new line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have a clothing line. Going to New York Fashion Week doesn't make you a designer. But I guess celebrities can just buy the title of "Designer." It's for sale at Barney's. Right next to Director and Rock Star.
But honestly... if these celebs had an ounce of designing talent and knew they did, then they wouldn't use their Hollywood status to sell it. Friggin' do it anonymously and see if you have real talent. I'm sure if JLO's Sweetface wasn't associated with her it'd be right in there with Mudd.
Or whatever they sell at TJ Maxx.
I can't drive my grandma's cadallic without running over another celebrity with a "fashion line".
Jessica Simpson's shoe line *gag*
JLO's brand *gag*
Beyonce's clothing line.. haven't seen it yet but I'm sure I'll *gag*
I saw a clip of Hilary Duff gushing over her new line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have a clothing line. Going to New York Fashion Week doesn't make you a designer. But I guess celebrities can just buy the title of "Designer." It's for sale at Barney's. Right next to Director and Rock Star.
But honestly... if these celebs had an ounce of designing talent and knew they did, then they wouldn't use their Hollywood status to sell it. Friggin' do it anonymously and see if you have real talent. I'm sure if JLO's Sweetface wasn't associated with her it'd be right in there with Mudd.
Or whatever they sell at TJ Maxx.Good points Bix! My fav story was how one of the Olsen midgets showed up late for a Chanel show and was taken backstage to watch, and this guy with a ponytail and shades started talking to her and she ingored him and walked away, thinking he was some wierdo.. Karl said he will never speak to her again... She didn't know who Karl lagerfeld was..what great fashion icons these kids are... time to spend 4 years at FIT and then maybe we'll listen to you a little, maybe...B)
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I'm tired of seeing celebs take over the fashion world. You can't call yourself a fashion designer if you stamp your name on a shirt that someone else made. I'm a soon to be fashion student and celeb crap like sean john and jlo and all that other crap make me sick. Celebs should just stick to acting and singing like they got famous for in the first place.
