You know the sort - I am thinking Lily Allen (pic from the Daily Mail website - english newspaper) I want real fur (just feels better and is warmer) and I have seen this on ebay. This one is not quite what I want as I don't want brown. I wouldnt have posted it otherwise as you'd outbid me - lol. Any ideas or seen any in white or black? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trapper-Hat-Real-Fur-Mink-Persian-Lamb_W0QQitemZ130295713289QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWomen_s_Accessories_UK?hash=item130295713289&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Many thanks guys.