When High Price Is the Allure

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From left: $895 Marc Jacobs shirt, $530 Lanvin leather ballet flats, and $1,525 Proenza Schouler shift.

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When readers leaf through the September issue of Vogue, which arrives on newsstands next week, they will encounter a Prada mohair twin set tagged at $2,925; a chunky Giles sweater, at $3,675; and a supersize Marc Jacobs bracelet, at $2,180. And as fall looks begin trickling into stores this month, shoppers will find basic designer sheath dresses selling for $1,200, coats for just under $4,000 and designer sunglasses for $500 or more.

This is the fourth consecutive autumn season in which a weak dollar has meant higher prices for designer clothing, much of which is made in Europe or stitched from fabrics imported from European mills. As the value of the dollar shrinks against the euro, prices continue to climb, with retailers citing hikes of as much as 15 percent for shoes and bags this year compared with last.

Yet, merchants and manufacturers have seen surprisingly little resistance in recent seasons to the cost of luxury goods.

So strong is the demand for cashmere car coats and crinkled patent leather bags at Barneys New York that that two firms — one from Dubai, the other from Japan — are in a bidding war this month to acquire the store for close to $1 billion. The luxury conglomerate LVMH, the owner of Louis Vuitton, had net profits for the first half of 2007 of $1.11 billion, up 2 percent from a year ago. Profits at the parent of Gucci and at Prada are also up.

Those brands owe part of their success to shoppers with caviar taste who have come to view extravagant prices as an enduring, if unwelcome, fact of life. At the same time, another consumer cohort is driving the trend, shoppers for whom a high ticket can in itself be an inducement to buy. Just as makers of premium ice cream have persuaded consumers to pay $4 for a cone instead of 90 cents, and California vintners convince them that a $100 cabernet is better than a $50 bottle, the makers of designer clothing know that high prices can cast a spell.

“Price certainly plays into a product’s allure,” said Robert Burke, a retail consultant in New York. “For certain people, the higher the price, the more attractive the item becomes.”

An exorbitant price can confer exclusivity. “People are willing to pay a significant amount of money to make sure they don’t see their purchase on other people,” Mr. Burke said.

Or to ensure that their friends will recognize its provenance. “Price is part of the status of certain luxury items,” said Marvin Traub, a retail consultant in New York. Mr. Traub, who visited Moscow in March, noticed that people there were fascinated not by how little but how much was paid. To some extent, Mr. Traub noted, “that sort of thinking translates here, too.”

Among merchants and manufacturers, consumer psychology can be as significant as economics in setting prices. “Luxury makers are not necessarily forced to raise prices above the exchange-rate factor, but sometimes they do,” said Milton Pedraza of the Luxury Institute, a research group in New York. “Why? They know that consumers are resilient. For manufacturers, it’s really about asking for a price increase because you can.”

Those remarks resonate with Jeffrey Kalinsky, a specialty retailer who owns fashion emporiums in New York and Atlanta. Mr. Kalinsky, who is also the director for designer merchandizing of Nordstrom, does not pretend to speak for his customers. But he shares their sometimes-irrational passions. He recalled that as long as 20 years ago, when he was in his mid-20s, he would “just walk into a store and see a sweater, and something inside of me would say, ‘Oh, I hope I can afford it. I bet it’s at least $800.’ “That sweater would be $1,100,” Mr. Kalinsky confided, “but, miraculously, then I would want it more.”

In some cases, manufacturers adjust prices upward to make sure that their goods hang in good company, displayed alongside prestigious luxury brands. “They tack on a healthy premium, because they want to maintain the exclusivity of the brand,” Mr. Pedraza said. “The customer pays for that cachet.”

Susan Sokol, the president of Vera Wang, acknowledged that while it is important to maintain a range of prices within a collection, “it is extremely critical to understand price positioning and to be very strategic about it.

“If I know our customer is buying Miu Miu or Dries van Noten,” she said, “we have to price accordingly.”

The appetite for high-end wares has been a boon to retailers, who need to sell fewer of a given item to turn a handsome profit. The higher the price, the higher the margin, Mr. Burke pointed out: “It’s much easier to sell five of something really expensive than 20 of something less expensive.” Markups, he said, have remained much the same since last year.

A stroll through several high-end stores in Manhattan this week turned up prices that might be the equivalent of a down payment on a minivan. At Jeffrey, in the meatpacking district, a raglan-sleeve black jersey Lanvin dress was $2,455, a Shawn Collins thermal knit sweater $995. Barneys offerings included a Balenciaga leather bag with fancy grommets, $1,725; Lanvin leather ballet flats, $530; and Marc Jacobs cuffed leather ankle boots, $995.

At Bergdorf Goodman, a Stella McCartney turtleneck devoid of trim sells for $995, and her cable-stitched sweater for $1,495. A pair of Kieselstein-Cord sunglasses is tagged at $595. Far from daunting, such a ticket might be downright seductive to customers, Ms. Sokol said. “When you are looking at a handbag or even a pair of sunglasses, a high price can have inherent snob appeal.”

Consumers tell themselves, Ms. Sokol went on, “ ‘If those glasses are $150, I’m not going to be as interested as if they are $350.’ ”

That is not to say that consumers are indifferent to price. Many are making emotional adjustments, finding ways to balance a love of fashion with the reality of its increasingly exorbitant cost. Eunice Ward, a lawyer in Chicago with a taste for quirky labels like Dolce & Gabbana and Stella McCartney, pays full price only for items that resonate with her sense of style. During a recent shopping trip, she spied a Yohji Yamomoto sweater. “I knew it would fit with my wardrobe and update everything,” she said, “that it was going to be my workhorse for fall.

“I didn’t even check the price at first. I knew I would love it, and I didn’t care.”

At Saks Fifth Avenue in Manhattan last week, Jessica Lee darted among the racks, gazing avidly at a champagne-colored Miu Miu cocktail dress, scarcely bothering to look at its $1,250 tag. “Fashion’s gotten more expensive,” Ms. Lee said, a fact as inevitable, and untroubling, to her as the tide.

“The economy is good,” said Ms. Lee, who works for a private equity firm in Manhattan. “I’ve made a lot more over the past year than before, and so I have more purchasing power.”

Kate Strachan appeared to be more circumspect. As a technical designer for a fashion house, she is well acquainted with the price of style. “I know a lot of quality, craftsmanship and time goes into some of these pieces,” Ms. Strachan said.

Regardless, she is determined to put a cap on her spending. Combing the racks at Saks, she sighed wistfully: “I can’t afford these kinds of things, so usually I buy what I need most. This year that would be a winter coat.”

Then with a self-mocking smile she added, “Of course there are times when I’ll splurge.”

nytimes.com . By Ruth La Ferla Published 9 August 2007
 
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I think you should only dump big bucks on items that are well made, good quality, and doesn't go out of style in 5 months.

Which means, don't pay $$$ for a white T-shirt with the words CHANEL or DIOR on it.

I can get a shirt and spray-paint it myself.

Plus, some of the expensive items are really fugly.
 
I really hate these rising prices. Soon enough I'll be able to afford like 2 pieces a season. A few years ago you could buy nice shoes for $400-$500, now you can except to pay at least $800 for heels. Although there is some appeal knowing that all the girls in school wont be wearing the same thing, this is to a point and prices now are way past it.
 
I think that that sometimes high prices are acceptable if the quality and the craftmenship are worth it, but most of the time--the prices aren't worth it. I hate it when people just buy a really tacky clothing just because it has the brand all over it.
 
I'm always dissapointed when something costs more than I think it does, I thought that was the usual response ?

If someone wants something more when there ends up being a hefty price tag attatched, I think its because they feel the designer knows something they dont. And it kind of reminds me of that Dior quote, about fashion being about understanding, not money.
 
It is indeed sad. We are all slaves of consumerism, I think we are living in a world where "everybody" wants to have a piece of luxury... and everyone used to be able to get it.. but not with the prices inflating it becomes harder and harder.. which is what the luxury market wants, they want the gap to be big.

When will it end? It's scary.
Thanks for the article! :flower:
 
To link exclusivity with exorbitant pricing is a thing I have never understood well. Perhaps it's because of the fact that I was very much influenced by i-D that I find exclusivity more in the way you develop a very personal, rather independent style for yourself than to care if another person is wearing that same jacket, that same pair of shoes. The context makes a huge difference if something looks precious or cheap, regardless the pricetag of it's original worth.
 
True - someone can spend a lot of money on clothing and still end up looking awful. You realise that "all they have is money" whereas the i-D way is to come up with something priceless - a sense of your own style, that you've personally developed to suit you and reflect your values, rather than the value of the dollar.
 
It's really easy for companies to make a lot of money with a high price setting..in the article they did mention the margin. Do keep in mind not all designers have a choice of what sells at what price, and I'm certain this wouldn't happen within a conglomerate and or bigger luxury company/brand..e.g. Gucci, Dior, Vuitton, etc. The usual objective of a business is to make as much money as possible and this is what they're doing.
 
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A lot of companies claim perfect craftmanship crafted in Parisian atelier on Rue blablabla....how many hours of this and that....this material that material......it may be true to certain extent but a lot are still exagerated in order to put those exorbitant price tags
 
A lot of companies claim perfect craftmanship crafted in Parisian atelier on Rue blablabla....how many hours of this and that....this material that material......it may be true to certain extent but a lot are still exagerated in order to put those exorbitant price tags

I agree, and even though some companies may actually follow this statement, the playing field isnt level for the other designers who boost the price to be sold in the same area....if everyone followed the same high quality methods of production, then okay, but one designer here may have a very costly method, and sell high to cover, while another designer may produce very cheaply and sell very high..it's all about the illusion and perception of what it's worth.
 
It spans across more than people realize. I mean, look at how much more even vintage clothes cost now. Sometimes too much.

The industry is a money cycle. The same people pump money into their own niches - whether it be retail, real estate, restaurant. They spend the money, it comes back to them in their business ventures.

But supply and demand is not exclusive to "people with money." I think we become too easily entraped and we dont realize that we do have the power to choose how much we pay. And if no one is buying these expensive items, then the retailers have no choice but to put them on sale, or slash their prices. Except no one will stick together against paying low prices!
 
It's really tricky because there are many people who CAN buy luxury items. There are people who don't have an entire wardrobe of designer items that will occasionally buy something expensive, so this counts...usually if someone cant afford high fashion they either pass on it, or go for cheaper brands- a la a Lamborghini vs. a Geo Metro. Then there's some who struggle to get a designer item >.< Overall, I don't think they will lower prices if the higher prices are selling...
 
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It seems to me tho, that there are tons of items going on sale and not just the bad leftovers. Has anyone noticed this? this seems to me like a bit of a backlash to these higher prices.
 
perhaps a high price point makes something more desirable to the masses, but anyone who knows their body/own style isn't that driven by a price tag, be that high or low.

if the market is moving in this direction (and it clearly is) and designers can capitalize from that, they have every right to (though we may not like it). every other industry does the same.
 
I think it's more a case of the majority of consumers being ignorant to what they're purchasing. The price is high, so the quality & exclusivity must be immense? if that was the case, why are their profits exceeding 1 billion? doesn't quite fit? no ofcourse it doesn't...
 
As a menswear buyer, I must say that women's prices are insane. My girl-friends buy more and more Marni/Missoni/Etc and less and less Balenciaga/etc because of the ridiculous price inflates.

However, quality is the biggest issue as far as menswear is concerned. I'm starting to switch from "designer" garnments to a more sartorial allure, and prices of m-t-m or bespoke are sometimes close to designer r-t-w :doh:, that's ridiculous. A "double retors" poplin shirt, made to measures, handmade in Normandy, by Liste Rouge? Eur 200. A vulgar r-t-w shirt from cheap cotton made in an italian sweatshop by Prada? Eur 250-300. See the problem?... A french-made umbrella with wooden handle by *insert some taylors name here*? Eur 150. A chinese-made umbrella with a plastic handle by Burberry? Eur 200. See the problem? Same thing with footwear (Crockett&Jones vs Prada, bla bla bla)


Oh and I guess a "do not dry clean, do not wash in water, do not bleash, do not iron" (!!! - I'm not kidding, I realized it after having bought it) tag on a Eur 400 piece is simply not acceptable.
 
As a menswear buyer, I must say that women's prices are insane. My girl-friends buy more and more Marni/Missoni/Etc and less and less Balenciaga/etc because of the ridiculous price inflates.

However, quality is the biggest issue as far as menswear is concerned. I'm starting to switch from "designer" garnments to a more sartorial allure, and prices of m-t-m or bespoke are sometimes close to designer r-t-w :doh:, that's ridiculous. A "double retors" poplin shirt, made to measures, handmade in Normandy, by Liste Rouge? Eur 200. A vulgar r-t-w shirt from cheap cotton made in an italian sweatshop by Prada? Eur 250-300. See the problem?... A french-made umbrella with wooden handle by *insert some taylors name here*? Eur 150. A chinese-made umbrella with a plastic handle by Burberry? Eur 200. See the problem? Same thing with footwear (Crockett&Jones vs Prada, bla bla bla)


Oh and I guess a "do not dry clean, do not wash in water, do not bleash, do not iron" (!!! - I'm not kidding, I realized it after having bought it) tag on a Eur 400 piece is simply not acceptable.

Oh very interesting, which item is this and how DO you clean it?
 

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