satine - i was able to find my tan/brown jeane shoes in january in amsterdam, at a discounted high-end fashion store. it's called shoobadoo (or something like that) and i believe they are a chain, in holland at least. if you are over there or near there, i would check that place out. because i was a US citizen they took some VAT off the price too! in total it only costed me $150 for a brand new pair. i am sure eventually they will pop up onto bluefly as well, but usually their prices are high despite their "sale" prices. if possible, i'd wait for ebay for the sellers "theitalianconnection" or "mysecretprada", both who are based in italy and have direct access to the YSL outlets over in florence and elsewhere. usually they buy up many sizes and post them at reasonable prices on ebay (less than half the cost).