64th Primetime Emmy Awards nominations

[LolaSvelt]

The US shows you mentioned are on cable channels which is why they have significantly less episodes. If you ask me, I prefer it that way. Most shows on network channels tend to lose steam after a few seasons because they have to make 20+ episodes per season.

The whole miniseries/TV series debate it quite interesting because I saw in an advert that The Hour is being marketed as 'The Hour 2'. BBC shows, kind of like American Horror Story, almost plays as an installment rather than a TV series.

Sherlock decided to submit just one episode as a TV movie (Scandal in Belgravia).

I imagine the rising popularity of Downton Abbey is the only reason why they decided to campaign it as a TV show this year.

 

[saann]

I think to be qualified as a mini-series you either don't work with seasons (so it's only one 'short' season) or if you do have seasons, every new season has to feature an entire new cast, premise etc.. that's the angle American Horror Story played in managing to sneak in as a miniseries and the reason why Downton Abbey didn't.

ETA: Just noticed lostgirl explained that quite well. Thanks (and sorry for just rehashing what you wroteflower:

 

[LolaSvelt]

Not necessarily. Look at Luther this year. It's just a better way for British TV shows to sneak in. It's all tactical. Look at Ashley Judd's nomination. Her TV show gets cancelled and she gets a TV Movie/Mini-Series nomination.

 

[Label Basher]

COMEDY WINNERS -

SUPPORTING COMEDY ACTOR
Ed O'Neill as Jay Pritchett in "Modern Family"
Jesse Tyler Ferguson as Mitchell Pritchett in "Modern Family"
Ty Burrell as Phil Dunphy in "Modern Family"
WINNER: Eric Stonestreet as Cameron Tucker in "Modern Family"
Max Greenfield as Schmidt in "New Girl"

WRITING FOR A COMEDY SERIES
Chris McKenna, "Community"
Lena Dunham, "Girls"
DESERVING WINNER: Louis C.K., "Louie"
Amy Poehler, "Parks and Recreation"
Michael Schur, "Parks and Recreation"

SUPPORTING COMEDY ACTRESS
Mayim Bialik as Amy Farrah Fowler in "The Big Bang Theory"
Kathryn Joosten as Karen McCluskey in "Desperate Housewives"
Winner: Julie Bowen as Claire Dunphy in "Modern Family"
Sofia Vergara as Gloria Delgado-Pritchett in "Modern Family"
Merritt Wever as Zoey Barkow in "Nurse Jackie"
Kristen Wiig as various characters in "Saturday Night Live"

DIRECTING FOR A COMEDY SERIES
Robert B. Weide, "Curb Your Enthusiasm "
Lena Dunham, "Girls"
Louis C.K., "Duckling"
Jason Winer, "Modern Family"
Winner: Steven Levitan, "Modern Family"
Jake Kasdan, "New Girl"

COMEDY ACTOR
Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper in "The Big Bang Theory"
Larry David as Himself in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
Don Cheadle as Marty Kaan in "House of Lies"
Louis C.K. as Louie in "Louie"
Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy in "30 Rock"
Winner: Jon Cryer as Alan Harper in "Two and a Half Men"

COMEDY ACTRESS
Lena Dunham as Hannah Horvath in "Girls"
Melissa McCarthy as Molly Flynn in "Mike & Molly"
Zooey Deschanel as Jess Day in "New Girl"
Edie Falco as Jackie Peyton in "Nurse Jackie"
Amy Poehler as Leslie Knope in "Parks and Recreation"
Tina Fey as Liz Lemon in "30 Rock"
Winner: Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Selina Meyer in "Veep"

REALITY WINNERS -

REALITY-COMPETITION PROGRAM
Winner: "The Amazing Race" (CBS)
"Dancing With the Stars" (ABC)
"Project Runway" (Lifetime)
"So You Think You Can Dance" (Fox)
"Top Chef" (Bravo)
"The Voice" (NBC)

HOST FOR A REALITY OR REALITY-COMPETITION PROGRAM
Phil Keoghan, "The Amazing Race"
Ryan Seacrest, "American Idol"
Betty White, "Betty White's Off Their Rockers"
Winner: Tom Bergeron, "Dancing With the Stars"
Cat Deeley, "So You Think You Can Dance"

DRAMA WINNER -

SUPPORTING DRAMA ACTOR
WINNER: Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman in "Breaking Bad"
Giancarlo Esposito as Gustavo 'Gus' Fring in "Breaking Bad"
Brendan Coyle as John Bates in "Downton Abbey"
Jim Carter as Mr. Carson in "Downton Abbey"
Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister in "Game of Thrones"
Jared Harris as Lane Pryce "Mad Men"

WRITING FOR A DRAMA SERIES
Julian Fellowes, "Downton Abbey"
Winner: Alex Gansa, Howard Gordon & Gideon Raff, "Homeland"
Semi Chellas & Matthew Weiner, "Mad Men"
Andre Jacquemetton & Maria Jacquemetton, "Mad Men"
Erin Levy & Matthew Weiner, "Mad Men"

SUPPORTING DRAMA ACTRESS
Anna Gunn as Skyler White in "Breaking Bad"
Winner but not there: Maggie Smith as Violet, Dowager Countess of Grantham in "Downton Abbey"
Joanne Froggatt as Anna in "Downton Abbey"
Archie Panjabi as Kalinda Sharma in "The Good Wife"
Christine Baranski as Diane Lockhart in "The Good Wife"
Christina Hendricks as Joan Holloway Harris in "Mad Men"

DIRECTING FOR A DRAMA SERIES
Winner: Tim Van Patten, "Boardwalk Empire"
Vince Gilligan, "Breaking Bad"
Brian Percival, "Downton Abbey"
Michael Cuesta, "Homeland"
Phil Abraham, "Mad Men"

DRAMA ACTOR
Steve Buscemi as Nucky Thompson in "Boardwalk Empire"
Bryan Cranston as Walter White in "Breaking Bad"
Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan in "Dexter"
Hugh Bonneville as Robert, Earl of Grantham in "Downton Abbey"
Winner: Damian Lewis as Nicholas Brody in "Homeland"
Jon Hamm as Don Draper in "Mad Men"

DRAMA ACTRESS
Glenn Close as Patty Hewes in "Damages"
Michelle Dockery as Lady Mary Crawley in "Downton Abbey"
Julianna Margulies as Alicia Florrick in "The Good Wife"
Kathy Bates as Harriet Korn in "Harry's Law"
Winner: Claire Danes as Carrie Mathison in "Homeland"
Elisabeth Moss as Peggy Olson in "Mad Men"

VARIETY

WRITING FOR A VARIETY SPECIAL
"84th Annual Academy Awards," Jon Macks, Dave Boone & Carol Leifer, with Tim Carvell, Jeff Cesario, Billy Crystal, Ed Driscoll, Billy Martin, Ben Schwartz, Marc Shaiman, Eric Stangel, Justin Stangel, David Steinberg, Mason Steinberg & Colleen Werthmann
"Betty White's 90th Birthday: A Tribute to America's Golden Girl," Jon Macks, Steve Ridgeway, Mason Steinberg & Brad Lachman
"The Kennedy Center Honors," George Stevens, Michael M. Stevens, Sara Lukinson & Lewis Friedman
WINNER: "Louis C.K. Live at the Beacon Theatre," Louis C.K.
"65th Annual Tony Awards," Dave Boone with Paul Greenberg

DIRECTING FOR A VARIETY SPECIAL
Don Mischer, "84th Annual Academy Awards"
Louis J. Horvitz, "The 54th Annual Grammy Awards"
Louis C.K, "Louis C.K. Live at the Beacon Theatre"
Alan Skog, "New York City Ballet George Balanchine's The Nutcracker (Live From Lincoln Center)"
Winner, also directing this Award show: Glenn Weiss, "65th Annual Tony Awards"

VARIETY SERIES
"The Colbert Report" (Comedy Central)
Winner again: "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" (Comedy Central)
"Jimmy Kimmel Live" (ABC)
"Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" (NBC)
"Real Time With Bill Maher" (HBO)
"Saturday Night Live" (NBC)

SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Frances Conroy as Moira in "American Horror Story"
WINNER: Jessica Lange as Constance Langdon in "American Horror Story"
Sarah Paulson as Nicolle Wallace "Game Change"
Mare Winningham as Sally McCoy in "Hatfields & McCoys"
Judy Davis as Jill Tankard in "Page Eight"

SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Denis O'Hare as Larry Harvey in "American Horror Story"
Ed Harris as John McCain in "Game Change"
Winner: Tom Berenger as Jim Vance in "Hatfields & McCoys"
David Strathairn as John Dos Passos in "Hemingway & Gellhorn"
Martin Freeman as Dr. John Watson in "Sherlock: A Scandal in Belgravia"

WRITING FOR A MINISERIES, MOVIE OR DRAMATIC SPECIAL
Winner: Danny Strong, "Game Change"
Ted Mann, Ronald Parker & Bill Kerby, "Hatfields & McCoys"
Abi Morgan, "The Hour"
Neil Cross, "Luther"
Steven Moffat, "Sherlock: A Scandal in Belgravia"

LEAD ACTRESS IN A MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Connie Britton as Vivien Harmon in "American Horror Story"
Winner: Julianne Moore as Sarah Palin in "Game Change"
Nicole Kidman as Martha Gellhorn in "Hemingway & Gellhorn"
Ashley Judd as Rebecca Winstone in "Missing"
Emma Thompson as She in "The Song of Lunch"

DIRECTING FOR A MINISERIES, MOVIE OR DRAMATIC SPECIAL
Winner: Jay Roach, "Game Change"
Kevin Reynolds, "Hatfields & McCoys"
Philip Kaufman, "Hemingway & Gellhorn"
Sam Miller, "Luther"
Paul McGuigan, "Sherlock: A Scandal in Belgravia"

LEAD ACTOR IN A MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Woody Harrelson as Steve Schmidt in "Game Change"
Winner: Kevin Costner as 'Devil' Anse Hatfield in "Hatfields & McCoys"
Bill Paxton as Randall McCoy in "Hatfields & McCoys"
Clive Owen as Ernest Hemingway in "Hemingway & Gellhorn"
Idris Elba as John Luther in "Luther"
Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock Holmes in "Sherlock: A Scandal in Belgravia"

MINISERIES OR TV MOVIE
"American Horror Story" (FX)
Winner: "Game Change" (HBO)
"Hatfields & McCoys" (History)
"Hemingway & Gellhorn" (HBO)
"Luther" (BBC America)
"Sherlock: A Scandal in Belgravia" (PBS)

DRAMA SERIES
"Boardwalk Empire" (HBO)
"Breaking Bad" (AMC)
"Downton Abbey" (PBS)
"Game of Thrones" (HBO)
Winner: "Homeland" (Showtime)
"Mad Men" (AMC)

COMEDY SERIES
"The Big Bang Theory" - CBS
"Curb Your Enthusiasm" - HBO
"Girls" - HBO
Winner: "Modern Family" - ABC
"30 Rock" - NBC
"Veep" - HBO

 

[YoninahAliza]

To be honest I was rather disappointed by a lot of the winners. I mean, I do like Modern Family, but they seriously should not have won in all of those categories. But maybe I'm bitter because I feel like Kirsten Wiig never got her due for her time on SNL, she was really amazing. I also would have preferred that Amy Poehler or Tina Fey to win for Best Comedy Actress, because I think they are just brilliant, though Julia Louise-Dreyfus is good too. Does anyone else ever feel like those who vote for the winners pick people/shows that not a ton of people actually watch? I understand that they are trying to be intellectual with their choices often, but they are seriously missing out on some quality television with a wider viewing audience. But then again, they also go for overly exposed shows too, like Modern Family, I guess there isn't a middle-ground, is there? At least it wasn't all a downer, Maggie Smith won again, she just proves time and time again that she's HBIC.

 

[blueorchid]

Does anyone else ever feel like those who vote for the winners pick people/shows that not a ton of people actually watch? I understand that they are trying to be intellectual with their choices often, but they are seriously missing out on some quality television with a wider viewing audience.

I'm kind of confused by what you mean by this.

I'm looking at the list of winners now and I'm seeing a bunch of popular shows such as Two and a Half Men (you can't really get more popular than that one), Louie, Modern Family, Homeland, The Amazing Race, Dancing with the Stars , etc. I guess shows like Veep, Louie and Homeland are limited by their audience because they are on HBO and Showtime, but I don't see how these are shows that no one watches.

 

[YoninahAliza]

^I guess what I was trying to say was that some of the shows that were either nominated/won aren't shows that you hear lot's of people talking about. The one I was really aiming this comment at was Game Change. I understand it was on HBO and thus had a limited amount of viewers, but really, I don't think I've herd anyone in real life actually talk about it (although I did read articles on it...). Whereas I have herd people talk about Hatfields & McCoys or Sherlock, two other miniseries nominated in the same categories. And two other miniseries which seemed to have reached a larger amount of viewers and fans. Obviously it's not just about the amount of watchers, but also about acting. But sometimes I guess I just feel like they pick winners that really hardly anyone actually watched in that body of work, except for them, the voters.

 

[Label Basher]

No I agree. Even though I still enjoy Modern Family it's had it's time (same with 30 Rock even though I LOVE it). How I Met Your Mother, Big Bang Theory, Community, Parks And Rec, New Girl, Happy Endings and even Up All Night deserve some love. And WTF is Curb Your Enthusiasm doing there. I thought it finished like 5 years ago.

My fav part was Jon Stewart getting tackled by Stephen and Jimmy. Then he said the f-word clear as and they didn't bleep even though there was a 5 min delay lol. The opening was also funny.

I was so surprised when Jonathan from Buffy (Danny Strong) won for writing "Game Change". Awesome. It's like when Jim Rash from Community won best adapted screenplay at the Oscars.

 

[blueorchid]

^I guess what I was trying to say was that some of the shows that were either nominated/won aren't shows that you hear lot's of people talking about. The one I was really aiming this comment at was Game Change. I understand it was on HBO and thus had a limited amount of viewers, but really, I don't think I've herd anyone in real life actually talk about it (although I did read articles on it...). Whereas I have herd people talk about Hatfields & McCoys or Sherlock, two other miniseries nominated in the same categories. And two other miniseries which seemed to have reached a larger amount of viewers and fans. Obviously it's not just about the amount of watchers, but also about acting. But sometimes I guess I just feel like they pick winners that really hardly anyone actually watched in that body of work, except for them, the voters.

See, for me I remember Game Change getting lots of promotion and it was quite popular with people I know, at least. I don't think they nominated Game Change because they were trying to be snobby, it was actually very smartly written and acted.

 

[YoninahAliza]

^I was thinking about it some more, and it probably depends what sort of people are in your social circle and the demographics of where you like which will affect what shows seems really popular. Like for me the shows that were nominated that it seemed everyone I knew liked/payed attention to were shows like Sherlock, Downton Abbey, Game of Thrones, and Breaking Bad. Not so much Game Change (but I also live in a very republican area so that maybe why?).