Adriana Lima dumped billionaire Prince Wenzenslaus of Lichtenstein for rocker Danny

[KhaoticKharma]

I haven't read many articles, but could it be she sounds unintelligent because English is not her native language?

For me it isn't how she says things, but what she says... with interviews of someone who does not speak English as a first language, you can tell what they are trying to say, even if the wording is off or odd.

Take for instance, "I want to be a child doctor. A pediatry...how do you call it, pediatrician? Do I like kids? No, not really." I don't have an issue with her not knowing the word pediatrician, I don't know what that word is in any language other than my own. But not liking kids and wanting to be a pediatrician? C'mon!

 

[Nemova]

Adriana and Danny are probably a much better fit, though, culturally and personality wise.

Not necessarily. Unless you're trying to imply that every brazilian is as vulgar and dumb as Adriana.


And for the love of God, TMZ people, Timbalada is not a rock band, far from that. Also it's not "Salvador da Bahia", it's simply Salvador. And would they say this ("got down and dirty") of a north american or european model? I highly doubt.

 

[VainJane]

^ Holy crap Nemova, where have you been? I haven't seen you in Rumors forever



On topic: I'm not an Adriana fan. I think she's too overrated and has the kind of face that doesn't always photograph well (I get VS mags). She was hot when she first came out but now I think she's overpublicized. But she's a VS model so I don't expect her to dress like Jackie O. Hell, if I had her body I'd be prancing around in a tiny string bikini and I'd cover my house with pictures of myself.

If she doesn't want a billionaire boyfriend, I'll take 'em.

 

[Nemova]

^I've been in hiding.

 

[xmodel citizen]

Who cares if she's taken nude pictures/is a lingerie model? Lord, it's not like we're Puritans here And about her intelligence, I dunno how smart she is, but I know people who've worked with her and they sy that she's very sweet and kind. From what I hear, she's actually pretty modest and shy. Those pictures say the opposite, but it was Carnivale and some people get crazy on the dancefloor (ahem... ME ).

 

[Harumi]

But surely this is a somewhat culturist statement Harumi? She is scantily clad in a lot of a photos because aside from being a model, she is also a Brazilian. They are, from my experience, a lot more liberal about their clothing, probably because they come from a hot country.

Yes, of course, it is a culturist statement. My vision of what is elegant, what is sophisticated, etc. is bound to be largely defined by my cultural influences.
What I perceive as 'trashy' in Lima's case is not the scantiness of her clothes but rather her general attitude. The way she presents her sexuality (since sexuality seems her only medium of communication) is flat and soulless. She does remind me of contemporary p*rn stars: all shiny, smooth and empty.
I agree Brazilians have a wholly different approach to their body then European, but this actually make them more body-aware and sensual than us. Lima doesn't have any of this deepness. She is an inflated doll, which is trashy, imo. So I rest my case.

Gisele also does lingerie, is somewhat gigly, is often photographed at carnival wearing skimpy clothes and isn't exactly a style icon. And yet she seems far more modest than most and never does nudity. So is she 'classier' that Kate Moss or Karen Elson or whomever who get their t*ts out at every opportunity but are courted by more avant garde photographers? Well I suspect class has nothing to do with it.

I think Gisele lacks elegance in her personal style but I not not find her trashy. She definitely has dimension and her photo-shoot provide evidences enough of her ability to project sophistication. As for the Kate and Karen example, I though I had establish with my Rampling example that I do not associate nudity with either class nor trashiness. You can do both. I find Elson's nudes generally tasteful, and Moss' ones generally boring.

And there is nothing attractive about Charlotte Rampling unless you have a thing for English sexual repression. She is very... horsey. She has the air of a typical Englishwoman with a penchant for getting drunk and swearing like a trooper... albeit in a rather moneyed way. Is that 'classy'? Depends upon definition I suppose.

I have a thing with complexity, mystery and charisma. So Charlotte is definitely my kind of gal. I do find her super sexy and gorgeous too but that is just a question of taste.
I can't propose a satisfying definition of class. I know what it's not (the mundane, the boring, the transparent, the facile, etc) but I can't tell what it is.
Pretty convenient I know.

 

[xmodel citizen]

Hey Baroque, what happened to your post? It was good, and it's great that you've actually gotten to meet Adriana. From everything I've heard, Adriana IS nice and sweet. I don't care if she's the brightest bulb, she is a nice person, and that's what matters.

 

[thefrancofille]

Not necessarily. Unless you're trying to imply that every brazilian is as vulgar and dumb as Adriana.


And for the love of God, TMZ people, Timbalada is not a rock band, far from that. Also it's not "Salvador da Bahia", it's simply Salvador. And would they say this ("got down and dirty") of a north american or european model? I highly doubt.

Well, since I stated I didn't think she was vulgar or dumb, clearly I wasn't implying that. She likely has more in common with a fellow Brazilian who's closer to her own age than a billionaire prince from Europe.

 

[mundodabolsa]

Adriana is Portugese? I swear I've never seen an unattractive person who is from Portugual/Brazil/or is from that general area.

I'm sorry to pick on you, but you do realize that Portugal and Brazil are not even remotely in the same "general area," right? ....they are on different continents, across an ocean from each other...

 

[Nemova]

Well, since I stated I didn't think she was vulgar or dumb, clearly I wasn't implying that. She likely has more in common with a fellow Brazilian who's closer to her own age than a billionaire prince from Europe.

I get your point , but I don't see what she'd have in common with this Timbalada guy apart from the cultural references. She's closer to the kind of jet set world that a prince might be part of than to the world of a brazilian musician. It's just as strange as if it was Gisele dating some soap opera actor from Brazil. I simply can't understand how a supermodel who dated someone in the likes of Lenny Kravitz or the Prince of Lichtenstein would date a guy like that. Maybe she's going for something more "normal" and low-key but who knows, right?

 

[Gypsy_Doll]

I couldn't be more happy for her. That "Prince" looked like a cross between Herman Munster and the hunchback. Sorry he was just FUGLY. But then again, it's not just about looks, but personality counts.

I used to get tired of her, now something about her keeps pulling me back and draws me to her. She seems a bit of an airhead and goofy, nothing wrong with that. We share a few things in common. I like her personality. Silly and Quirky.

Danny, MARRY THIS GIRL!

 

[thefrancofille]

Awww, I don't think the Prince was ugly. Actually, I read on a message board someone who met him in person (with photos as proof) and stated he looked much better in person. You know, some people don't photograph well?

 

[thefrancofille]

I'm sorry to pick on you, but you do realize that Portugal and Brazil are not even remotely in the same "general area," right? ....they are on different continents, across an ocean from each other...

Sorry to pick on you, but again, a person of Portugese descent could come from Brazil as it was colonized by Portugal. People from one continent can occupy another continent.

So fashionicon wasn't coming entirely out of left field.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

Yes, of course, it is a culturist statement. My vision of what is elegant, what is sophisticated, etc. is bound to be largely defined by my cultural influences.
What I perceive as 'trashy' in Lima's case is not the scantiness of her clothes but rather her general attitude. The way she presents her sexuality (since sexuality seems her only medium of communication) is flat and soulless. She does remind me of contemporary p*rn stars: all shiny, smooth and empty.

Of course our visions of what is elegant comes from cultural influence. I come from the point of view as you. I don't even think half these girls (Bundchen aside) have the unusual beauty to be considered fashion models. But we can't use our differences to judge. To say a girl is 'trashy' is a pretty damning statement. It implies more than anything, an idiocy of mind - a frivolity. Maybe she is just a happy girl? She reminds me of a p*rn star too. That shapeless face and cutesy features... but reminding and being are two different things. I have never seen her being overtly sexual - giggly yes but the two aren't the same. The sexual bit is the rather well paid job she happens to do.

I agree Brazilians have a wholly different approach to their body then European, but this actually make them more body-aware and sensual than us. Lima doesn't have any of this deepness. She is an inflated doll, which is trashy, imo. So I rest my case.I think Gisele lacks elegance in her personal style but I not not find her trashy. She definitely has dimension and her photo-shoot provide evidences enough of her ability to project sophistication.

I disagree. I prefer the restraint you will find in Europeans and Asians towards their bodies. Because when bodies are displayed as nonchalantly as they are on Copacabana beach or wherever, they are no longer sensual. They are just utilitarian devices. Free of artistic or sexual merit. But again that is my point of view as a European. That is one thing to explain Adriana's lack of 'deepness'. The other is that it is her job. And I don't doubt that if we had it, we'd be on Sports Illustrated in a second... even if we swung more the Irina Lazareanu way that the Alessandra Ambrosio way. The difference between Adriana and Gisele, is that Gisele has the face for high fashion and started as a high fashion model. Thus she has had better photographers and artists around her and still does. All this, 'the model has to be this that and the other' is total bollocks. Good photographer = great shoot. Gisele is a powerhouse and is more impressive to me than any Kate Moss because she can do swimsuit and couture. Very rare. Adriana has trashy photoshoots because she primarily sells underwear.

As for the Kate and Karen example, I though I had establish with my Rampling example that I do not associate nudity with either class nor trashiness. You can do both. I find Elson's nudes generally tasteful, and Moss' ones generally boring.I have a thing with complexity, mystery and charisma. So Charlotte is definitely my kind of gal. I do find her super sexy and gorgeous too but that is just a question of taste.
I can't propose a satisfying definition of class. I know what it's not (the mundane, the boring, the transparent, the facile, etc) but I can't tell what it is.
Pretty convenient I know.

Oh I see - I understand. And yes Karen and Kate's nudes aren't really trashy at all but we are judging their work here, not who they are. Probably best to do the same with Lima. Not that I really care ! Charlotte? Hmmm. You lost me!

Class is not the best term anymore I think. It hints at the social heirarchies which exist but everyone prefers to forget about! And class is nobody's fault as a result. Because what you were born into isn't your fault. Elegance is probably a better word? Or tastefulness. But still they are all so relative.

Ok I am bored of Miss Lima now. Off to ogle La Bundchen

 

[kissmesweet]

^Well, maybe the royal family doesn't want a daughter-in-law who walked down runways scantily clad in lingerie?

Agreed. She was cute with the Prince though.

 

[Deleted member 1957]

But surely this is a somewhat culturist statement Harumi? She is scantily clad in a lot of a photos because aside from being a model, she is also a Brazilian. They are, from my experience, a lot more liberal about their clothing, probably because they come from a hot country. Gisele also does lingerie, is somewhat gigly, is often photographed at carnival wearing skimpy clothes and isn't exactly a style icon. And yet she seems far more modest than most and never does nudity. So is she 'classier' that Kate Moss or Karen Elson or whomever who get their t*ts out at every opportunity but are courted by more avant garde photographers? Well I suspect class has nothing to do with it.

And there is nothing attractive about Charlotte Rampling unless you have a thing for English sexual repression. She is very... horsey. She has the air of a typical Englishwoman with a penchant for getting drunk and swearing like a trooper... albeit in a rather moneyed way. Is that 'classy'? Depends upon definition I suppose.

And I am not an Adriana Lima fan. In fact I think she is an absolutely dreadful model. But that does not mean she is a trashy girl.

I disagree with what I hav put in bold letters but I have to say this is the most hilarious post I have read in a long time!!! I also noticed the 'double standards' in that the less sexy models can do nude and no one will bat an eyelid but if a girl with a brilliant bust wears something sexy..then she's trashy!
Unfortunatly I dont understand the comparison between Ms.Lima and Charlotte Rampling....honestly!!
That aside...God seems to have answered our prayers who wants to see Adriana in some bouffant hairdo wearing a devastatingly boring gown and tiara all in the name of marrying that depressive billionaire? She is a great model and is one of the best in her line of work..sexy, commercial and even a little high fashion

 

[xmodel citizen]

^ Seriously. Uhm, have you guys seen some of Kate's nudes? They're not the epitome of class. No wonder she dumped the Prince, if I had to deal with people constantly criticizing me and what I do for a living it would've been ADIOS for sure.

 

[electricladyland]

Sorry to pick on you, but again, a person of Portugese descent could come from Brazil as it was colonized by Portugal. People from one continent can occupy another continent.

So fashionicon wasn't coming entirely out of left field.

I'm not sorry to pick on anyone, but I thought the same thing as mundo when I read your post. Being Brazilian herself, I'm sure mundo is well aware of the Portuguese colonization of Brazil. I think your wording threw things off because you said, "Brazil/Portugal or is from that general area." Although there may be cultural overlaps due to colonization the two countries are geographically distant and therefore not in the general area.

And by the way, i've seen some very unattractive people from portugal.

 

[fashionicon]

I'm sorry to pick on you, but you do realize that Portugal and Brazil are not even remotely in the same "general area," right? ....they are on different continents, across an ocean from each other...

It's okay. I understand.

But as thefrancofille pointed out, there are a large number of portuguese that inhabit Brazil (the Portuguese being the largest ethnic group in Brazil), most of Brazil's population being of Portuguese descent. Aren't spanish and portuguese the two major languages of Brazil, with Portuguese being the official language of Brazil? I did some research, because I seriously didn't think that I was that dumb. But good to know that I wasn't completely out of left field.

Either way, the people are gorgeous.

 

[thefrancofille]

I'm not sorry to pick on anyone, but I thought the same thing as mundo when I read your post. Being Brazilian herself, I'm sure mundo is well aware of the Portuguese colonization of Brazil. I think your wording threw things off because you said, "Brazil/Portugal or is from that general area." Although there may be cultural overlaps due to colonization the two countries are geographically distant and therefore not in the general area.

And by the way, i've seen some very unattractive people from portugal.

Reading is fundamental: please, go back and read again, because I wasn't the poster who made the statement that Adriana was Portuguese.