Model Andrej Pejic: „As a woman I am sexy, as a man I am plain.”
He is the only model who presents Menswear and Womenswear. That makes him the epitome of a revolutionary trend: The dissolution of the boundaries between sexes.
ZEITmagazin: Mister Pejic, do feel more like a man or a woman?
Andrej Pejic: Sometimes I feel more masculine but sometimes more feminine. Mayn think of me as more feminine but I am both. And at the moment I feel very comfortable about that.
ZEITmagazin: When did you discover your femine side?
Pejic: When I was very young I was interested in my mother’s wardrobe. As long as you are a kid everyone thinks that’s cute. It was only when I got older that I realized that there is a thin line between boys and girls.
ZEITmagazin: And then it wasn’t cute anymore?
Pejic: No, it wasn’t OK anymore that played with dolls and wore make up. Between the age of 8 and 12 there was a time when I desperately tried to be a real boy. But that didn’t work very well.
ZEITmagazin: You were born in Bosnia, shortly before the War and lived in Serbia until you were 8 years old. That doesn’t seem to me like an environment which respects sexual self-discovery…
Pejic: Serbia is/was definitely not a very tolerant country. But I was a cute kid and could easily be forgiven. The tough time began when I got older. I’m very thankful for my mother who got us sheltered through this hard time.
ZEITmagazin: What was your parental home like?
Pejic: My father was an economist. Now he works in the tourism industry in Bosnia. My mother was a lawyer. When we moved to Australia she studied again and she is now a teacher.
ZEITmagazin: So you are a middle class family?
Pejic: Yes, but after the war we were a poor family. I feel more like a working-class kid.
ZEITmagazin: Was it difficult to orient yourself when you moved to a foreign country when you were 8 years old?
Pejic: It was hard. There was no integration course for foreigners. I was in a school class, didn’t speak any English and tried to catch some things. But it’s easier when you are a kid. It took me a year to learn the new language.
ZEITmagazin: When did you become interested in fashion?
Pejic: I started reading fashion magazines early on and I loved buying clothes. But I never dreamed of a modelling career.
ZEITmagazin: You’ve been working as a model for about a year now. How ere you discovered?
Pejic: I was selling fruits on a market in Melbourne. A model agent came by and bought strwaberries off me. He asked me if I wanted to stop by at his agency.
ZEITmagazin: Without knowing that you weren’t a woman?
Pejic: They only found out later at the agency but they thought that was even more interesting.
ZEITmagazin: I read that you were approached in Melbourne at the airport.
Pejic: You know, I get asked how I was discovered so often – I change things up to keep it intersting. Every story has its own truth.
ZEITmagazin: At the moment you are the only famous model that wears both menswear and women’s wear. When was the first time you modelled women’s wear?
Pejic: I’ve modelled for some Australian brands but my first big show was Gaultier at the Haute Couture shows in Paris in January. It took a while until people thought I was capable of modelling women’s collections because there were doubts I had the body to do it. But apparently I do have it.
ZEITmagazin: Does it make a difference whether you walk women’s or men’s shows?
Pejic: Fashion for women is more demanding. It depends on how you walk and how you move. At men’s shows you just run off.
ZEITmagazin: Can you switch between man and woman in your head?
Pejic: I know what others expect of me. As a woman I am sensual and sexy. As a man I am more – plain.
ZEITmagazin: Being a man means being plain?
Pejic: When it come sto fashion – yes.
ZEITmagazin: How do other models respond to you?
Pejic: They are kind. Not my best friends but not bitchy either. At the menswear shows I’m usually the only one who’s especially feminine. But even the very masculine models are cool about that.
ZEITmagazin: How do you normally dress?
Pejic: I wear both men’s and women’s clothes. But looking good as a woman is less expensive. Good menswear is very expensive.
ZEITmagazin: Do you wear dresses?
Pejic: If I see a dress I like, I’ll wear it. I have no problem with that. I also wear high heels.
ZEITmagazin: Make-up?
Pejic: Not much. I’m no drag queen and don’t want to transform into someone else. I want to be natural.
ZEITmagazin: When you go out in high heels and a man offers you a drink, when do you tell him that you might not be what he thinks you are?
Pejic: I’ve been offered many drinks and I’ve never taken anyone home without letting him know that I’m not a woman. But it’s not even that important to many of them. They’ll buy me a drink nevertheless.
ZEITmagazin: Do you like men or women?
Pejic: Let me put it this way: Love has no boundaries.