youthinasia
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That’s too many words for ‘recycled ideas’.I didn’t see this letter posted here, but it gives more context to the collection.
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That’s too many words for ‘recycled ideas’.I didn’t see this letter posted here, but it gives more context to the collection.
all the brands have this, not just balenciaga.That's also what I don't get. Your customers already have all that FROM YOU, so what's the point?
I haven't bought since 2017 either (apart from the occasional Kering sales I got lucky to get invited to where you could get his Balenciaga stuff for less than 100 a piece
We didnt need to read that. Ugly is ugly and at this point even gen z arent buying into this b.s.I didn’t see this letter posted here, but it gives more context to the collection.
Great collection. great pieces.
a beautiful retrospective of his tenure and I can’t wait to see what he does at Gucci.
all the brands have this, not just balenciaga.
Even the beloved hedi at Celine.
I can't speak for everyone but maybe they were drawn to Vetements/Balenciaga because it spoke to the street, fashion is often a reaction to the times, our environment. Lang and Margiela spoke to the times, it was a reaction to all the bureaucratic, decadent fashion rules of many HC and RTW shows at the time - not saying Demna is on the same capabilities of the two but there was a reaction and relatibility people felt.You may call me an old fart from bygone times, but I never understood what exactly spoke to the clientele of Demna that was missing before?
With most of high fashion, there’s always been an aspirational quality to it - a celebration of sophistication, beauty, acquired taste. People dressing to look the best version of themselves and not like a cynical parody of a homeless person or refugee that feel even more questionable in troublesome times when the gap between the extremely rich and the poor is getting increasingly larger.
A lot of what Demna did to contextualize his fashion with felt like a contrived act of provocation by bringing elements of pop and trash culture into fashion other designers would deem unworthy to idolize.
I can't speak for everyone but maybe they were drawn to Vetements/Balenciaga because it spoke to the street, fashion is often a reaction to the times, our environment. Lang and Margiela spoke to the times, it was a reaction to all the bureaucratic, decadent fashion rules of many HC and RTW shows at the time - not saying Demna is on the same capabilities of the two but there was a reaction and relatibility people felt.
Wearing Vetements at the beginning signalled that you were 'in the know' or part of something stirring in young Paris, people wanted to be associated to that.
I agree with Lola Demna is a good designer. I always had issues not because of the aesthetic but because it was too entirely based on Martin's work beyond just design philosophy, that to me was too scandalous, and now that his design work hasn't evolved in years it feels tired. As someone who recognizes the hard work and technical abilities of some designers who show extravagant, ballgown/old fashioned corset, ornate OTT shows but which these collections have nothing to do with my life, I can see why some people were attracted to him. Now why people are still attracted to it would be a guess that people feel they're part of a tribe, and it's easy to integrate (an angry hoodie, a bomber jacket, sneakers).
exactly 0% of that has anything to do with the quality of his work.Demna, like it or not, is one of the most influential designers of our time and has reshaped the industry.
I would kindly like to ask the question what Demna‘s Balenciaga says about the times we live in and also what exactly it celebrates.
If we consider fashion to be one of many aesthetic disciplines that communicate values and ideals of their time, I would kindly like to ask the question what Demna‘s Balenciaga says about the times we live in and also what exactly it celebrates. What does it mean for a brand like Balenciaga and Vetements to play the game of blatant commerce in the high fashion industry? It‘s a hollow attitude, borrowing from Margiela in the most superficial manner without the soul of hobest artistry.