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An afternoon with Brad Pitt
On the occasion of the highly anticipated The Tree of Life, the new Terrence Malick's cinematic odyssey, we find Brad Pitt in Los Angeles for an unprecedented meeting on this film which he is the lead actor and co-producer, when a superstar and talks about cinema itself, with a kindness and humility that knows that with the great.
How would you define The Tree of Life, which for once is not an easy question!
Brad Pitt: And this will not be an easy answer! For me, the adults that we are the direct consequence of the children we were. In this sense. The Tree of Life follows the journey of three brothers who move between a loving mother, who represents the purest goodness, and a father who, himself, is a human with his faults. My character is a man oppressed by his life, who brings his grudge with him, even becomes violent at times. This is the first opposition of the film.
And this is not the only ...
With Terrence, indeed, the themes are different but still closely related. When nature creates, man destroys. And when man destroys another attempt to build anyway. It is also a movie about the tragedy and violence of death. The Tree of Life evokes the infinitely large and infinitely small, the supreme magnificence and small deviance. When Terrence in the film offers its "version", so to speak, of the creation of the universe is surely also to better illustrate the in-declination for human self-destruction. There, in the majesty of nature, all the roots of the tragedy that is taking place tie in this family.
It's also a film about religion, faith and belief in an afterlife ...
Religion is another subject of the film, which Malick placed in the southern United States ,in lands that are still very eager. Religion is also a constant battle between the rules made and freedom of choice.
There are two scenes in the film, when your character shows all it's depth: the one when he requests a hug from his son and another, when he explodes at the lunch.
Yes, absolutely. He has this strange attitude of giving the order to kiss his son and take him in his arms. It is a moment where I was trying to show how fragile he is. He knows that his sons prefer their mother, he is jealous of their freedom when he himself is chained to his work. But at the same time, he tries to love without really knowing how. The scene of the breakfast where he explodes with fury shows, however, limits its rancceur to his own family, which is for me a terrible feeling. He seems irretrievably locked from the inside, unable to be happy or unhappy by the same grief that will touch directly.
How did Terrence Malick direct you for this role?
We talked at length. He was plunging into a difficult character but also an era full of surprises. He gave us to read a poem, "Nature and Grace", which I think has a lot inspiration for The Tree of Life. For him, the human being is fallible so that he can not live while trying to protect others. All the personages of the film are in this logic, the mother who suffers from reports that she has with her husband to the children who steal or break a window to assert their presence and their personality test. The film also evokes the American society, especially the 50s, and the economic boom that has plunged our society into a certain hardness.
For my part, I consider The Tree of Life as 2001: A Space Odyssey by Terrence Malick. And you?
Perhaps, yes ... You know, it's a movie he always wanted to do, he has worked for over thirty years. From what I know after the project goes through many stages, several players ... I think there are dozens and dozens of different versions of the scenario.
There is some similarity to 2001 ... in questioning the beginning of life and, more generally, about the meaning of life ...
That's true. There are those incessant references to the infinitely large and infinitely small, the esoteric and philosophical reflection on creation. It really marks when I read the script. Terrence scripts are extremely rich and detailed. It is not a sequence of scenes but a reflective and comprehensive text. In the scenario, therefore, Terrence talk very precisely the concept of micro and macro. When you look in a microscope, you can see the cells. And when you look through a telescope, you see finally exactly the same thing. This opens the field at infinity. How is this possible? And what does that say?
I understand your interest in the film as an actor. But why should you also be involved as a coproducer?
I'm not going to blow the producer's totally disinterested in financial matters ... although I still make some progress in this area! My goal is simply to help the films has to be done. This influence that Your may have, even if it's a drop in an ocean, is very rewarding.
In Plan B, your production company, you elide films like A Mighty Heart, Michael Winterbottom, The Departed, Martin Scorsese, or Kick-***, Matthew Vaughn. It is surprising that a Hollywood superstar like you becomes a producer of the most independent ones, on movies that are not really mainstream ...
These are favorites. I do not see how I could not help to produceA Mighty Heart. It's so strong and sensitive. I'm here to help, to clarify the gray areas, to clear the ground and make everything goes well. For me, a producer must leave the stage director to focus solely on his art. And why these choices quite opposed? Because there must be room for everyone. Hard for a cinema like Winterbottom, a cinema but irreverent fun with Kick-*** (although Matthew Vaughn, who is also a producer, did not really need help). To infiltrate, however, we have been behind the project, we bought the remake rights. Then, once that Martin Scorsese is in between the rounds, we have withdrawn because the project could stand on its own.
Rather than go through your filmography, I prefer to submit the names of some directors and some movies to try to understand what motivates you in your choice of career ... It begins with Guy Ritchie (Snatch).
I always try to discover the universe. This is what enriches me. And its really attracts me. The cinema of Guy does not look like no other. I think I'm smart enough to prefer to work with directors who are much older than me ... It may be that the lies my difference.
Steven Soderbergh (Ocean's saga)?
It's the same thing. All these people have developed their own language of cinema. Soderbergh is a guy who never ceases to push its limits, to explore lands that do not know.
Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)?
Ah! I often say that Tarantino is a god, his plate is a paradise. And that all unbelievers are allowed to access it! Is there anyone more original than he, more singular? He feeds his films and his own personality, its own folly.
Want to work with him again? Scalping some Nazis again?
I'd love to! I should perhaps not say it was a hilarious idea for a possible sequel of Inglourious Basterds. It's completely crazy! It is a kind of buddy movie but I will say not more. I do not even know if he will one day!
And of course David Fincher (Seven, Fight Club, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button)?
That's probably the one I am closest. We have more or less were revealed at the same time, we have followed similar paths, we grew up together. It is a filmmaker first, obsessed with precision, details. And it is a spirit among the most inventive. We are really close and our friendship continues unabated.
Conversely, it is surprising not to find in this list of people like Steven Spielberg or Tim Burton, which would make sense. Why it never happened?
True, but it's just because things have not made ... For that, you have to be in the same state of mind. And then, after he has у in our careers, questions all beasts logistics, schedule. But I would love to work with them one day. These are two filmmakers that I respect and who are friends.
In the same vein, choose a few films you've made. The first 12 Monkeys, Terry Gilliam ... For me one of your best roles.
I remember that at that time this movie was a personal challenge, I wanted to know if I could go through with this character a little upset. Terry helped me a lot for this role. I had reached a point in my career where I did not want to be available, although unfortunately I still am today! I made this film in reaction to what I lived at the time. And most importantly, I wanted to try different experiences in cinema.
Babel, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu?
Again, how to say no to such a stage director? I like directors who have their own universe, even if it must be radical. Babel is a film so complex ... But what attracted me to reading the scenario is that the film was its strength from the myriad of stories that collide.
Devil, Alan J. Pakula, who is however not necessarily a good memory ...
Indeed, this is not a good memory. The film was hard to do and a time it was uncomfortable for me. I tried for the first time to play a foreign character [IRA, Ed], I had to learn to speak with an accent and then the film was of interesting political content. But the shooting went wrong there was a lack of understanding of both sides and I lost my bearings. I learned from this experience, was how the Hollywood system could corrupt a beautiful project.
Conversely, when you accept Mr. & Mrs.. Smith, it's just for fun?
I love movies and entertaining, quite simply, the script made me laugh enormously. The couple who never stops wanting to remove was a good idea and I think it could give a good movie. And of treasure, now is my favorite movie (laughs)!
I do not know why (laughs)! What theater do you prefer as a spectator?
Even if more I advance, the more I know the Trues and Tricks of the cinema, I want a movie that surprises me. The actors who take risks, directors who are finding new things, here is what attracts me to the cinema. When I think aboutThere Will Be Blood, I was fascinated by the story of a man who lives only by hate. I do not know what really were the intentions of Paul Thomas Anderson but I think it's a marvel. It's always the same thing, I like people who push the limits ... But hey, you'll end up making me look like a nerd so I like all kinds of movies!
But listening to you talk about cinema, I feel I see a kid in a candy store!
That's true. I am fascinated by the stage directors. And actors. And directors of photography. I love anything creative side of cinema. I have always been like that. You can do what you want, but if a film by Stanley Kubrick is projected somewhere, I run, drop everything! Sometimes I even watch average or amiss movies hoping to find something !
This is also why you enjoy doing voices in animated films. Soon in Happy Feet 2?
We made the voice over last year with Matt Damon and it was pure pleasure. You don't have to put on make up! And it is an exercise where one learns a lot while being in complete freedom. Especially with someone like George Miller who is a great man.
You toured with Jean-Jacques Annaud's Seven Years in Tibet. II у has other European directors who interest you?
The problem is that as a father of a family I do not see too much else than animated films for children! We try from time to time to discover things. Besides, I saw the white ribbon, Michael Haneke, which I returned. This film has haunted me for a long time, and still today ...
Finally, are you proud of your career in the cinema?
Oh yes! I think that becoming a father, I am changing in my choices. I probably accepted some roles that I would not accept. And the notion of quality, point of view, my engine is now true. But I am happy to have lived such experiences, from David Fincher to Terrence Malick with a view so bright and origins of cinema. That changes or special effects-trance! But frankly, I consider myself very lucky and it would really inappropriate to complain, don't you think?
Well, here's a translation of the interview for non-French-speakers. I run it through a machine translation service and fixed some mistakes. I hope it's understandable.![]()
I wish we had more interview like that!An afternoon with Brad Pitt
On the occasion of the highly anticipated The Tree of Life, the new Terrence Malick's cinematic odyssey, we met with Brad Pitt in Los Angeles for an unprecedented discussion on this film which he is the lead actor and co-producer. When a superstar talks about movies and himself, with a kindness and humility that we only find through (in) the Great (ie Great actors).
How would you define The Tree of Life, which for once, is not an easy question!
Brad Pitt: And this will not be an easy (already made?) answer! For me, the adults that we are, are the direct consequence of the children that we were. In this sense The Tree of Life follows the journey of three brothers who gravitate between a loving mother, who represents the purest goodness, and a father who, himself, is a human being with his flaws. My character is a man oppressed by his life, who brings his grudge with him at home and even becomes violent at times. This is the first opposition of the film.
And this is not the only one ...
With Terrence, indeed, the themes are different but still closely related. When Nature creates, a man destroys. And when a man destroys another one tries to build himself anyway. It is also a movie about the tragedy and violence of death. The Tree of Life mentions the infinitely large and infinitely small, the supreme magnificence and small deviance. When Terrence, in the film, offers/shares is own vision, if I can say that, of the creation of the universe it is also a way to better illustrate the human's inclination for self-destruction. There are, in the majesty of nature, all the roots of the tragedy that is taking place in this family.
It's also a film about religion, faith and belief in an afterlife ...
Religion is another subject of the film, which Malick placed in the southern United States, in lands that are still very eager/religious. Religion is also a constant battle between the established rules and the freedom of choice.
There are two scenes in the film, when your character shows all it's depth: the one when he requests a hug from his son and another, when he explodes at the lunch.
Yes, absolutely. He has this strange attitude when giving his son the order to kiss and hug him. During that moment/scene I was trying to show how fragile he is. He knows that his sons prefer their mother, he is jealous of their freedom while himself is chained to his work. But at the same time, he tries to love without really knowing how. The scene of the lunch where he explodes with fury/burst with anger shows, however, his limits, his bitterness toward his own family, which is for me a terrible feeling. He seems irretrievably locked from the inside, unable to be happy or even unhappy by the grief that will touch him directly.
How did Terrence Malick direct you for this role?
We talked for a long time. I had to dive into a difficult character but also an era full of surprises. He gave us to read a poem, "Nature and Grace", which I think inspired him a lot for The Tree of Life. For him, the human being is so fallible that he can only live while trying to protect others. All the characters of the film are in this mindset, from the mother who suffers from the relationship that she has with her husband to the children who steal or break a window to assert their presence and test their personality. The film also brings up the American society, especially the 50s, and the economic blossom that has plunged our society into a kind of hardness.
For my part, I consider The Tree of Life as 2001: A Space Odyssey by Terrence Malick. And you?
Perhaps, yes ... You know, it's a movie he always wanted to do, he worked on it for over thirty years. As far as I know the project went through many levels, several actors ... I think there are dozens and dozens of different versions of the scenario.
There is some similarity to 2001 ... in questioning the beginning of life and, more generally, about the meaning of life ...
That's true. There are those incessant references to the infinitely large and infinitely small, the esoteric and philosophical reflection on creation. It really had an impact on me/impressed me when I read the script. Terrence's scripts are extremely rich and detailed. It is not just a sequence of scenes but more of a reflective and global text. In the scenario, therefore, Terrence talks very precisely about the concept of micro and macro. When you look in a microscope, you can see the cells. And when you look through a telescope, at the end of the day you see the exact same thing. This offers an infinity of visions. How is this possible? And what does that tell us?
I understand your interest in the film as an actor. But why should you also be involved as a coproducer?
I'm not going to blow the card of the producer's totally disinterested in financial matters ... although I still make some progress in this area! My goal is simply to help films to be done. This influence that you may have, even if it's a drop in the ocean, is very rewarding.
In Plan B, your production company, you elide films like A Mighty Heart, Michael Winterbottom, The Departed, Martin Scorsese, or Kick-***, Matthew Vaughn. It is surprising that a Hollywood superstar like you becomes a producer of the most independent ones, on movies that are not really mainstream ...
These are favorites. I do not see how I could not help to produce A Mighty Heart. It's so strong and sensitive. I'm here to help, to clarify the gray areas, to clear the ground and make everything goes well. For me, a producer must leave the director to focus solely on his art.
And why these opposite choices?
Because there must be room for everyone. For a hard cinema like Winterbottom, for an entertaining but irreverent cinema like Kick-*** (although Matthew Vaughn, who is also a producer, did not really need help). For The Departed, however, we have been behind the project, we bought the remake's rights. Then, once Martin Scorsese get involved, we withdrawned ourselves from it because the project could stand on its own.
Rather than go through your filmography, I prefer to submit the names of some directors and some movies to try to understand what motivates you in your choice of career ... It begins with Guy Ritchie (Snatch).
I always try to discover universes. This is what enriches me. And his really attracted me. Guy's cinema looks like no other. I think I'm smart enough to like better to work with directors who are much older than me ... It may be there that lie my difference.
Steven Soderbergh (Ocean's saga)?
It's the same thing. All these people have developed their own language of cinema. Soderbergh is a guy who never ceases to push its limits, to explore lands that he does not know.
Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)?
Ah! I often say that Tarantino is a god and his movie set is a paradise. And/I can also add that all heretics can't go there! Is there anyone more original than him, or more singular? He feeds his films of his own personality, his own craziness.
Would you like to work with him again? Scalping some Nazis again?
I'd love to! I should perhaps not say it but he has a hilarious idea for a possible sequel of Inglourious Basterds. It's completely crazy! It is a kind of buddy movie but I will say not more. I do not even know if he will make it one day!
And of course David Fincher (Seven, Fight Club, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button)?
He is probably the one I am the closest. We were more or less revealed/known/made famous at the same time, we have followed similar paths, we grew up together. He is a filmmaker first, obsessed with precision, details. And he has one of the most inventive's spirit. We are really close and our friendship is still strong.
On the contrary, it is surprising not to find in this list people like Steven Spielberg or Tim Burton, which would make sense. Why it never happened?
True, but it's just because things didn't happen ... For that, you have to be in the same state of mind. And then, after that, there are in our careers silly issues like logistic and schedule. But I would love to work with them one day. These are two filmmakers I respect and who I am friend with.
In the same vein, choose a few films you've made. The first 12 Monkeys, Terry Gilliam ... For me one of your best roles.
I remember that at that time this movie was a personal challenge, I wanted to know if I could go through this character a little bit crazy/deranged. Terry helped me a lot for this role. I had reached a point in my career where I did not want to be typecast, although unfortunately I still am today! I made this film in reaction to what I lived at the time. And most importantly, I wanted to try different experiences in cinema.
Babel, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu?
Again, how to say no to such a director? I like directors who have their own universe, even if it must be radical. Babel is a film so complex ... But what attracted/appealed to me while reading the scenario is that the film found its own strength from the myriad of stories that collide.
Devil, Alan J. Pakula, who is however not necessarily a good memory ...
Indeed, this is not a good memory. The film was hard to do and it was an uncomfortable moment for me. I tried for the first time to play a foreign character [IRA,], I had to learn to speak with a foreign accent and the film also had an interesting political content. But the shooting went wrong, there was a lack of understanding on both sides and I lost my marks. I learned from this experience how the Hollywood system could corrupt a beautiful project.
Conversely, when you accept Mr. & Mrs.. Smith, it's just for fun?
I love entertaining movies, quite simply, the script made me laugh enormously. This couple who never stops wanting to kill each other was a good idea and I thought it could make a good movie. And of course, now it is my favorite movie (laughs)!
I do not know why (laughs)! What theater do you prefer as a spectator?
Even if the more I go on, the more I know the Trues and Tricks of the cinema, I still want a movie to surprise me. Actors who take risks, directors who are finding new things, this is what attract me in the cinema. When I think about There Will Be Blood, I was fascinated by the story of that man who lives only through hate. I do not know what really were the intentions of Paul Thomas Anderson but I think it's a marvel/gem. It's always the same thing, I like people who push the limits ... But hey, you'll end up making me look like a nerd while I like all kinds of movies!
But listening to you talk about cinema, I feel like I am watching a kid in a candy store!
That's true. I am fascinated by the directors. And actors. And directors of photography. I love all this creative side of cinema. I have always been like that. You can do what you want, but if a film by Stanley Kubrick is projected somewhere, I will run and drop everything! Sometimes I even watch average or bad movies hoping to find something !
This is also why you enjoy doing voices in animated films. Soon in Happy Feet 2?
We made the voice over last year with Matt Damon and it was pure pleasure. First of all you don't have to put on make up! And it is an exercise where one learns a lot while being in complete freedom. Especially with someone like George Miller who is a great man.
You worked with Jean-Jacques Annaud in Seven Years in Tibet. Are there any European directors who you would like to work with?
The problem is as a father I do not see a lots of movies which aren't animated films for children anymore! However, try from time to time to discover things. Besides, I saw the white ribbon, by Michael Haneke, which I moved me upside down. This film has haunted me for a long time, and it still does today ...
Finally, are you proud of your career in the cinema?
Oh yes! I think by becoming a father, I am evolving in my choices. I probably took some roles that I should not have taken. And the notion of quality [of the movie], [similar] point of view/vision [with the director] became a really important factor for me and the starting point for my decision. But I am happy to have lived such experiences, from David Fincher to Terrence Malick who have such bright and original point of view of cinma. Those are quite different from the overload of special effects! But frankly, I consider myself very lucky and it would really inappropriate to complain, don't you think?
I am seriously jealous of this guy. He writes so well 
Here I am with our photograph, Vincent Flouret, in a deserted studio of Culver City ready to spend a long time with Brad Pitt. Alone or almost (we are only 4) without an army of assistants and bodyguards. Smoking break are made closed to his car, in the parking lot. The meeting/encounter is one of a Biblical simplicity, a hundred miles away from the timed interviews and pre made/already made answers which people try to sell us in HW. Brad has time, Brad speaks for a long time, let himself be taken in pictures without asking questions, without giving conditions. We enjoy the moment, we work very hard, telling ourselves that this is only a dream induced by the jet lag. But no, we can still meet superstars who take time and who have things to say. With intelligence and a smile. A smile, in this case, which belongs to Brad Pitt. There are days like these..

irishtimes.comPitt 'hesitant' over role of abusive father
May 16, 2011
Brad Pitt said he hoped his children would realise his portrayal of a stern father in his latest film was down to him being “a pretty damn-good actor” and not because it was close to reality.
The star, who is at the Cannes Film Festival to publicise The Tree of Life which is in the running for the coveted Palme d’Or, plays an authoritarian parent bringing up a family in 1950s Texas in the film.
Pitt, who has six children with his partner Angelina Jolie, admitted he had been “hesitant” about taking on the role.
“I think about everything I do now my kids are going to see when they grow up and how are they going to feel but they know me as a dad and I hope they’ll just think of me as a pretty, damn-good actor,” he said.
Asked how close his role was to the truth, he joked: “I beat my kids regularly and it seems to do the trick and I deprive them of meals.”
Pitt said he took on the role, at least in part, to make sure the film got made. “Real strong scripts go by the wayside and don’t get made and we wanted to make sure this one did and so I jumped in.”
Pitt was joined by actress Jessica Chastain, who plays his wife in the film. Conspicuous by their absence were Sean Penn, who plays the couple’s son as an adult, and the film’s director Terrence Malick.
Penn, who producer Bill Pohlad explained was in Haiti, is expected at the festival later this week where another of his films, This Must Be The Place, is also in competition.
Producer Sarah Green said the reclusive Malick is “very shy” and Pitt defended his absence, saying an “an artist should not have to be a salesman."
He looks amazing and I love those two pairs of Tom Ford he's been wearing in Cannes. NEED THEMMM.
Can't wait to see "The Tree of Life"!

Wow he looks fantastic. I'm so jealous of Jessica now (for holding hands with both Brad and Sean!)
