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Comme des Garcons and Cutler and Gross

softgrey said:
johnny..have you been wearing rose-coloured glasses while viewing the collection???

;) hehe, maybe. I wouldn't wear a pink suit, but I wouldn't wear so many other things shown on the catwalk by other designers that I find far more camp that even this comme collection. I would wear one of the black suits with the pink lining though, since it is a beautiful suit, and it doesn't seem camp at all to me. I tried one on last week, and it was lovely - lovely washed wool fabric and really good quality finishing etc. Too much dough though.
 
softie, my comment was just on the glasses and was obviously 'unrelated' to the discussion, maybe i'm wrong but the hintmag link and the title topic of this here is on the sunglasses, not on the cdg homme plus collection.. of course i may be wrong.. which wouldnt suprise me at all

and no, i dont care too much about what the designers say, i care more about what i see
 
I saw Lee Carter [editor of Hint] wearing these during fashion week. Nice to see they let him keep the sample! :lol:
 
that's funny metal...
johnny ...i love the cuts of the suits and i do think that the pink lining is hot...
i especially love blk with pink...

i even like these glasses on the right person...it's all about the attitude...
 
helena said:
rei is just playing with ideas I think..... like she always does. I actually don't think the clothes are , in themselves, camp but I think that there is a tongue in cheek laugh at 'campness' in general because of the styling etc.

I think so to. I think camp can be funny and intresting if it's done intellgantly, wich i think it is, and I really like the collection.
 
The glasses are tiny--you have to have the right shape to your face in order for them to work. The pink is actually much more subtle in person as well, really kind of like a tint.
 
I think thats a little bit harsh, maybe more of an "eccentric" look as stated before.

Thats my opinion on it, anyway.
 
Sorry..I like the form very much, and I like Comme des Garcons very much(Although not too crazy about Cutler and Gross), but I find pink very tacky.

Anyway, I'm at the height of eccentricity, there's no way that I'll look down on something because it's "eccentric", although those glasses are eccentric, but that's not the reason why, if you get what I mean..:D
 
I've been ill for a few days and I missed all the hot discusions here:-)

Well I think the collection is not feminine, nor camp at all. The cut is masculine and so are the clothes. Even the pink color is kind of "strong":-) there is no flirt nor subtle about the use of it.

I think the collection is very eccentric (like you said:-) but has an air of absurdity. Pink is always consider either camp or bad taste. Maybe it's time to move on? Wearing a pink tshirt or polo is not a big deal. I saw pink polo shirts even in Benetton in Moscow last summer. But a pink total look, suit and shoes... is provocative. If one think about Rei Kawakubo said that her clothes (shops and perfumes, too) are mean to give people energy and good mood, this collection really does it.
 
thanks nqth - I hope you are feeling better.

I think you are correct - i think she is just playing & questioning this notion of pink being camp & feminine.
 
ngth, i've missed you..
hope to see more of you from now on

i absolutely agree on your opinion on pink..
as a very reliable european trend forecasting office stated some months ago well.. pink is the new black
 
I feel a bit better now. Thank you, Helena and Lena:-)
 
It 's a difficult line to tread actually. Pink has become much more mainstream as nqth has said. It's now, in fact, a bit of a "lad" colour, at least in pastel pink form. This has been the result of idiot magazines like GQ telling their idiot readers that pink is OK and that you won't be a poof if you wear it - essentially, an example of the metrosexualisation of most "style conscious" young men in the UK. Garish pink on the other hand is potentially camp or feminine. So the middle line is what me might call "eccentric" pink or, even more tricky, "ironic" pink. We all know the trouble with ironic clothes - largely, people don't get the irony and just think you look daft. And no matter how you might not like the idea of it, it won't make you feel good if people snigger or laugh at you in the street.

My take on it is to extract elements of the overall look - the pink lining, the pink bits on the trainers, a pink zip top with plain balck or grey everything else. Sort of to take the essence of the look and distill in into something more manageable in real life. I think that's what we do with most catwalk clothes anyway; pink is just a specific example of that.
 
totally agree johnny...well said my man.. :clap:
 
Exactly:-) one just take what one likes and plays with the idea in "real life". And I agree with Helena about Comme playing and questioning the "role" of pink.

Beside, the unfished look used to be "daft" a while ago:-) So did the low rise trousers. I remember asking a tailor to cut the lowrise trouser for me and he said "No, because you can't sit":-))
 
yes its interesting .....its something I like to ask myself about certain things in life generally....why do I have to do it this way just because thats the way its always been done?
 
I found this:-),

http://www.arts.telegraph.co.uk/art...bopink.xml&sSheet=/arts/2003/09/14/botop.html

some extract
"Pink used to be a sleazy, girly, Diana Dors colour, emblematic of pink Cadillacs and Las Vegas neon signs, but it has been made respectable. The flesh-pink carpets of Prada have been an icon of modern chic since the 1990s, and the pink cladding of the Laban dance centre in Deptford by the leading architects Herzog and de Meuran mean it's seen as the cutting edge colour. Pearson's novel is emblematic of intelligent chick-lit, and its pink shows the influence of post-feminism and the confidence women feel. If publishers are abandoning it now, it just shows how conservative and out-of-touch they are."
 
Johnny said:
It 's a difficult line to tread actually. Pink has become much more mainstream as nqth has said. It's now, in fact, a bit of a "lad" colour, at least in pastel pink form. This has been the result of idiot magazines like GQ telling their idiot readers that pink is OK and that you won't be a poof if you wear it - essentially, an example of the metrosexualisation of most "style conscious" young men in the UK. Garish pink on the other hand is potentially camp or feminine. So the middle line is what me might call "eccentric" pink or, even more tricky, "ironic" pink. We all know the trouble with ironic clothes - largely, people don't get the irony and just think you look daft. And no matter how you might not like the idea of it, it won't make you feel good if people snigger or laugh at you in the street.

I don't think it'll last long. Remember the attempt by the industry to tell people that cashmere is the new must-have for summer? That lasted about two days...
 
faust said:
I don't think it'll last long. Remember the attempt by the industry to tell people that cashmere is the new must-have for summer? That lasted about two days...

You mean that lads wearing pink won't last?
 

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