Ferragamo Pre-Fall 2023 Milan

[disco54]

Hiring a woke designer works for PR not sales, the bags are horrible and the clothes are clinical and boring. They should just hire Alessandro Michele at least he is good with bags / accessories.

 

[Cocteau Stone]

Weird that there's so much going on with all the random looks but there isn't really anything to look at.

Don't actually mind looks 25 and 28 but they still feel like filler, which is what all of this feels like. Dead stock and filler looks from past collections and designers of yore pulled out of the archives and put in a random order.

Incinerate those strappy platforms, and those knee high boots make the models look like they have clown feet.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

Hiring a woke designer works for PR not sales, the bags are horrible and the clothes are clinical and boring. They should just hire Alessandro Michele at least he is good with bags / accessories.

Your use of "woke" reads like code for "black." Which implies that Davis was hired for the color of his skin. Which is nothing you would ever say or suggest about a white designer like... Matthew Williams' hire at Givenchy.

It sounds a bit racist.

Maybe you don't mean to be, but maybe you are.

Also, suggesting that someone is hired for 'PR not sales?" You might want to think that about that one again.

 

[LadyJunon]

Your use of "woke" reads like code for "black." Which implies that Davis was hired for the color of his skin. Which is nothing you would ever say or suggest about a white designer like... Matthew Williams' hire at Givenchy.

It sounds a bit racist.

Maybe you don't mean to be, but maybe you are.

Also, suggesting that someone is hired for 'PR not sales?" You might want to think that about that one again.

While I wouldn't consider Davis to be a woke designer (there's no overblown melancholic black allegory in his work à la Virgil/Kerby/Thebe), but I do believe that he was hired with a subconscious intent of making Ferragamo seem cool and progressive (Horyn's review on his Ferragamo debut said everything about the expectations everyone had). That's not really a problem in itself as brands get makeovers all the time, but there's two things about this appointment that bother me:

• He doesn't have much experience under his belt. After LCF, he was a pattern cutter for Bianca Saunders for two years before launching his label with Fashion East where he did four collections before being appointed to Ferragamo. That's only two years of officially designing clothing.

• He folded his own brand to focus on Ferragamo, despite the success it was having. This means that Davis is expecting the tenure to be long-term What Theyskens and Jarrar taught me about fashion is not to depend on someone else's fashion house to replace your own. Vaccarello will inevitably learn that lesson too.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

While I wouldn't consider Davis to be a woke designer (there's no overblown melancholic black allegory in his work à la Virgil/Kerby/Thebe), but I do believe that he was hired with a subconscious intent of making Ferragamo seem cool and progressive

Aren't most designers hired with that conscious and explicit intention?

 

[LadyJunon]

Aren't most designers hired with that conscious and explicit intention?

I should have added that.

 

[disco54]

Your use of "woke" reads like code for "black." Which implies that Davis was hired for the color of his skin. Which is nothing you would ever say or suggest about a white designer like... Matthew Williams' hire at Givenchy.

It sounds a bit racist.

Maybe you don't mean to be, but maybe you are.

Also, suggesting that someone is hired for 'PR not sales?" You might want to think that about that one again.

I really could care less what you think, I am entitled to my own opinion, and making false assumptions shows your the one who is racist. MGC and Gabriela Hearst last time I checked were not black but hired on "Wokeness" in other words where identity politics supersedes actual talent. FYI, my mother is a Creole black woman, so congratulations on making a fool of yourself.

 

[THD96]

Assume MGC was hired because of her "wokeness" is laughable. Nobody looks at her (and PP) Valentino and said wow what a "woke" designer, let's hire her for Dior. Even Sidney at the time was against her feminist t-shirts. Her activism came after the success of her debut.
Why she was hired because she is a veteran, a proven commercially successful designer, and she still has a good relationship with LVMH when she helped Fendi create classic bags like Peekaboo.

Davis and the other guys at Nina Ricci or Ann D were hired simply because the suits want a young (cheaper) designer to turn around a not-so-hot brand. It's nothing new in the industry.

Davis has potential, he reminded me of Jonathan, nobody expected Loewe to be this successful when he first started.

Woke or not, corporation is fair, either you sell or you out.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

I really could care less what you think, I am entitled to my own opinion, and making false assumptions shows your the one who is racist. MGC and Gabriela Hearst last time I checked were not black but hired on "Wokeness" in other words where identity politics supersedes actual talent. FYI, my mother is a Creole black woman, so congratulations on making a fool of yourself.

Obviously it's your opinion. And you posted it publicly on a message board and I did the same.

FYI - having some black ancestry does not exclude you from problematic racist thinking. Suddenly I'm reminded of George Santos. That's not name-calling, that's just an association that I typed as it appeared in my head

But anyways, please do articulate what makes Maximilian Davis a "woke" designer.

 

[RaisinBoy]

Is this for real a collection?!? Ugh…