Hobo and boho ... and the difference is?

[Absoloodle]

Hey, this is my first forum posting here. I am a fashion student in New Zealand and have recently been reading the word HOBO a lot. At first I thought that it was boho spelt wrong, but apparently not. Can somebody please tell me what the difference is?
ANd what the trends entail exactly?
I will be very grateful as this is for an assignment.

 

[sakina]

A hobo is a homeless person.

So they're basically wearing a slop of old dirty clothes of whatever they can find and obviously not wearing clothes in order to look good.

 

[northernsky]

i don't think hobo is a trend. it seems to me more likely that this expression is used to depreciate the boho-look. (especially if the person looks too careless concerning his outfit: wearing old, damaged or filthy clothes, clothes that don't have the right size, lots of layers that don't match... just like a homeless person probably would.)

 

[Luna]

Hobo is a type of bag style.

 

[morgan38]

Boho is when you paid a lot of money for it.

 

[Absoloodle]

thanks guys, i appreciate your help... so i acn be glad that the hobo trend is not heard of in NZ

 

[bryne]

the hobo look is already widespread in certain art schools and communities.

also, after a few days of not wearing deodorant i think your body balances out the stench. unfortunately, i'm not speaking from experience, just from stories that have been passed down...

 

[Absoloodle]

Does anyone know where the names hobo and boho came from? Whicg came 1st? Thanx

 

[utopia]

we already have threads on these topics:

hippie and boho: http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5548&highlight=hobo

bobo: http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23472&highlight=hobo

 

[pinksatin]

Does anyone know where the names hobo and boho came from? Whicg came 1st? Thanx

I think"boho" is short for bohemian. I think taht includes anything ethnic, eclectic, not-conservative, etc. I don't know where hobo originates but like someone else said, it refers to homeless people. I think of what MK Olsen is photgraphed wearing to class at NYU as hobo. Very messing and over-sized and un-coordinated. Somehow she gets away with it.

 

[Rachelle]

check this out. I found it rather amusing.

 

[littleboypeep]

Here is the best description I could find...
"Boho Chic is the epitome of a free thinking artist, whose look encompasses a vintage inspired style with earthy tones, loose fitting clothes, and combining certain looks to appeal to an eclectic vibe. [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This seventies-inspired trend is an mix of luxurious textures and contrasting fabrics."

Mary Kate Olsen is a prime example of Boho-Chic. A distinctively Boho outfit might include wearing chunky boots with a peasant skirt, a turtleneck and a long flowing knit scarf.

The term hobo in reference to fashion has been commonly misused by people who have mistaken the term "boho". The term hobo would refer to someone who looked homeless or "trashy" rather than fashionably different (as with Boho-Chic). The term also applies to hobo bags, which are generally medium-larger round shoulder bags.

I hope I have been of some assistance. Feel free to IM me or email me if you ahve any questions that I might be able to answer. Just out of curriosity, where do you go to school?
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[Absoloodle]

Thank you so much, this is a huge help. And I have basically based my essay on what everyone has written in the forums of these topics. I go to school in Wellington, NZ and hope to get into the fashion industry oneday. Maybe Fashion magazines, or designing because I am obsessed with both!So just to clarify: Hobo derives from Boho but is a derogatory term for looking more like a homeless person than Boho. Would someone be able to clarrify what these Hobo bags are though? What do they look like?
And Bobo (Bohemian Bourgeois) is similar to Boho, but looking more like you've just got out of bed and thrown on layers of clothing and beads. (?)
So is Bobo more of a layered look? Would you say that Bobo is the next onstep in trends from Hobo? Thanx so much for your help

 

[Absoloodle]

check this out. I found it rather amusing.

**EDIT: PLEASE REMOVE PICS FROM QUOTES**

Thats awesome! thanx. love it!

 

[maskedmannequin]

I wouldn't write an essay based on these findings..!
I'm sure you can find something much more substantial in the fashion world the write an entire essay on!
And as for this description:

"Boho Chic is the epitome of a free thinking artist, whose look encompasses a vintage inspired style with earthy tones, loose fitting clothes, and combining certain looks to appeal to an eclectic vibe. [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This seventies-inspired trend is an mix of luxurious textures and contrasting fabrics."[/font]

It's such a shame that so many people ate up the ACTUAL meaning of Bohemian to what people class as that now (i.e see-through white gypsy skirts, huge thick tacky belts and blingy gold sequins etc)!!! yak..


Can't wait for this trend to disappear off the face of the earth.

 

[maskedmannequin]

p.s
Hobo bag:
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=hobo%20bag&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi

 

[maskedmannequin]

Thank you so much, this is a huge help. And I have basically based my essay on what everyone has written in the forums of these topics. I go to school in Wellington, NZ and hope to get into the fashion industry oneday. Maybe Fashion magazines, or designing because I am obsessed with both!So just to clarify: Hobo derives from Boho but is a derogatory term for looking more like a homeless person than Boho. Would someone be able to clarrify what these Hobo bags are though? What do they look like?
And Bobo (Bohemian Bourgeois) is similar to Boho, but looking more like you've just got out of bed and thrown on layers of clothing and beads. (?)
So is Bobo more of a layered look? Would you say that Bobo is the next onstep in trends from Hobo? Thanx so much for your help

I doubt there will be an onstep from "Boho". At least I hope not, especially given the true meaning of the word. I dunno about the boho bourgeois- I would have thought that was a really dolled-up version of "boho" myself *shrugs*

 

[maskedmannequin]

"The Dictionary defines Bohemian as:

• A native or inhabitant of Bohemia.
• The group of Czech language dialects used in Bohemia.
• An artisan, usually gifted in literature or the creative arts;
one who defies social conventions; a gypsy.


While these definitions are technically correct, they don't seem to do justice to describing the Bohemian lifestyle.

Being Bohemian is all about living in an alternative space. Bohemians express themselves without regard for social convention. They attempt to experience the mysteries of life through their unique perspective.

The term Bohemian, as it refers to lifestyle, seems to have begun in France with the term La Boheme. It started as a way of describing bands of carefree 'gypsys' that came from Romania; possibly originating in India. As they traveled through Bohemia (now the Czech Republic), the reigning royalty gave them letters of safe passage. These letters indicated that the Bohemian royalty condoned their practices and lifestyle, which afforded them a sense of prestige in western Europe at the time.

Today Bohemian is used to describe free-thinking, free-living people - usually artists. Its modern roots are with the Beatniks of the 1950s. Their poets now stand as icons of progressive libertarian thinking."
(http://www.newbohemian.com/cgi-bin/display2.cgi?page=bohemian)


-free thinking!!! Free living!!! Doesn't sound like the cloned gypsy skirt wearers!! *grrs at usage of word some more!*

 

[impossibleprincess]

Boho, in a fashion sense, this season, is all about the floraly, hippy look.

Hobo/Bobo chic is about looking like you can't afford a sandwich when you're actually a multi-millionaire. E.g wearing cashmere scarves handmade in Outer Mongolia but looking like it's been eaten by moths.

When you look at them in a social context, the terms are much more blurred. In fact, in a social context, Hobo and Boho probably just mean the same thing-refusal to conform, arty liberals.

This thread may help you-when we dissected Bobo chic. You call it Hobo chic.

http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23472&highlight=bobo

It may also be useful to you to look at Dior A/W '05 and Dior Couture, not sure which season but in 02-the NY Times called it the Rise of Hobo chic. It was all about Galliano attacking the rise of logos, although he may have been poking fun of Dior itself.

It may also help to read "Bobos in Paradise"-when I was in America this was (suprisingly) unavailable and I found it at Borders in Orlando, but Amazon has it.

 

[Sunkist]

To me, "boho" chic is anything that is influenced by gypsy style, hippie style, and the "college student traveling around the world look." And even though it has a free-spirited, relaxed feel, I think it can also be very glamorous and luxurious in the way that someone who chooses to trot around the globe or be an artist instead of a 9 to 5 job is very glamorous and has a certain type of luxury (even if its different from "uptown" luxury, corporate luxury, or regal luxury). I think of someone who is "boho" chic as looking as though they spend plenty of time outdoors or traveling (tanned, natural hair, fairly healthy and earthy and sensual).

"Hobo" style, I think, would be exemplified by a more waify look, like pale, thin, large watery eyes...kind of a street-urchin appeal. I also think of "hobo" style as being somewhat edgy and world-weary rather than freespirited and lighthearted...."hobo" style, to me, is more of a "pile it on" look with lots of different, much heavier, fabrics and textures, and maybe a "heavier" feel than bohemian style. "Hobo" chic could also include lots of heavy, possibly clunky bags, while "boho" chic, with its more lighthearted feel, probably involves softer, lighter bags and lines, like pouches and slings and slouchy purses.