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Great story...thank you
How many more images are in this story?
Great story...thank you
While I'm sure Ashley Radjarame would have rocked this editorial too, I think we've got to take Holiday for what it is: a magazine about travels, about exploring new territories, cultures, landscapes etc. They don't pretend they offer the viewer an accurate overview on the city/country the issue is about, they're just throwing their version of dreaming to our eyes. Often it works.I don’t agree. Holiday was never that kind of magazine. Angelina Kendall is from Brazil and Steinberg from Russia and they were in Istanbul Issue, Andreea Diaconu is from Romania and she was in New Zealand Issue, it doesn’t go by typical things/point of view/choice or where the model comes from. That’s why I really like this magazine.
Looks amazing, thanks for sharing
Fair. I suppose the images are without argument striking and beautiful. But what irks me about this magazine is that it’s all kind of giving off some low level cultural appropriation vibe. I still think someone like Rania Benchegra would’ve been perfect for the Istanbul issue. Angelina Kendall for Rio, Steinberg for Moscow etc. Ok, not much imagination for choice of cast, but I do think it makes the story more believable and meaningful if you use models from the city’s’ own culture and background. Fine. We want Rianne in Kathmandu. But put her in touristy/backpacker clothing instead of see through dress with her face painted as if she was celebrating Holi. It just seems wrong.While I'm sure Ashley Radjarame would have rocked this editorial too, I think we've got to take Holiday for what it is: a magazine about travels, about exploring new territories, cultures, landscapes etc. They don't pretend they offer the viewer an accurate overview on the city/country the issue is about, they're just throwing their version of dreaming to our eyes. Often it works.
I understand your point of view, and I don't like cultural appropriation more than you do. But it's also a dangerous path, when we start pushing it too far, too fast, when our view on it isn't subtle enough. Got to take every case as a unique one, unless we talk about blatant cheap parody of another culture.Fair. I suppose the images are without argument striking and beautiful. But what irks me about this magazine is that it’s all kind of giving off some low level cultural appropriation vibe. I still think someone like Rania Benchegra would’ve been perfect for the Istanbul issue. Angelina Kendall for Rio, Steinberg for Moscow etc. Ok, not much imagination for choice of cast, but I do think it makes the story more believable and meaningful if you use models from the city’s’ own culture and background. Fine. We want Rianne in Kathmandu. But put her in touristy/backpacker clothing instead of see through dress with her face painted as if she was celebrating Holi. It just seems wrong.
Thanks for taking time to share your opinion- much appreciated. It is a touchy topic so let’s just leave it there. Meanwhile looking at the Cuba issue…I feel slightly more hopeful that these magazines people CAN make the right choices. It’s just that sometimes they refuse toI understand your point of view, and I don't like cultural appropriation more than you do. But it's also a dangerous path, when we start pushing it too far, too fast, when our view on it isn't subtle enough. Got to take every case as a unique one, unless we talk about blatant cheap parody of another culture.
We also need to remember cultures, every culture nowadays, evolve. Just as languages. Just as how they are perceived by people originally from these or by others who are just discovering it.
When some european painters discovered african art for example (and it's just a single example among several other "influences"), I can't doubt some of them, many actually, were genuinely impressed and sincerely fell in love with what they saw. Even though they sort of stole the soul of that art. And meanwhile exbitions of real african art weren't taken seriously back then, just considered as some curios. And we're just talking about a few pieces of art here, we all know how much worse it went... For centuries, through centuries.
As a painter myself, drawing or painting on a daily basis, I'm often asking myself the question why there aren't more people of color among my artworks, mainly focused on characters/human beings. Perhaps I don't feel legit (enough) to do so. Unless I'm willing to portray someone beautiful (like in some "fashion" series I did) but that remains just some aesthetic choice, there would be a lack of feelings, of life experience in them. BUT... I don't expect every creative mind to follow the same path. What may be right in book, can be wrong in someone else's. And doing things only with good intentions never made art better, sometimes it took the opposite path... for the worse/worst...
So, yes, I partly agree with you. And it goes far beyond cultural appropriation (in terms of geographical areas etc.). Within the same country, or the same part of the world, you'll find people "stealing" or at best "borrowing" others' stuff, struggles, aesthetics, history and lives. That's an endless and endlessly touchy topic (and I'm getting quite off-topic somehow).
That's just a fashionable travel magazine, it has its flaws, its audience has its flaws just as its creators and contributors do. And you'll always find someone going further than yourself on your own lane. You mentioned Angelina Kendall for Rio? Someone else will let you know that not every Brazilian looks like Angelina or Gisele. And so on. Endless?
huh? they are such different magazines??This magazine is what Dust thinks it is.
Yes Holiday is her own personal project.What's interesting too about Holiday is that I believe they use the same creative director as Harper's Bazaar France (Franck Durand). He has such a great visual sensibility.
I believe its intentional and it makes sense since the magazine is called Holiday. It makes sense for the main story to be on theme otherwise it might end up looking like National Geographic or some other docu style publication. Also being more fashion oriented they have to capture her as a model than a traveler backpacking around the world. Same way they would have a Nepalese model in the UAE issue or a Senegalese model in the Canadian issue.Fair. I suppose the images are without argument striking and beautiful. But what irks me about this magazine is that it’s all kind of giving off some low level cultural appropriation vibe. I still think someone like Rania Benchegra would’ve been perfect for the Istanbul issue. Angelina Kendall for Rio, Steinberg for Moscow etc. Ok, not much imagination for choice of cast, but I do think it makes the story more believable and meaningful if you use models from the city’s’ own culture and background. Fine. We want Rianne in Kathmandu. But put her in touristy/backpacker clothing instead of see through dress with her face painted as if she was celebrating Holi. It just seems wrong.