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The Guardian pays £267 per 1000 words in the weekend section...I don't know how much they pay their staff writers...
 
It really frosts my *** when rich people play at being poor. I mean REALLY. I don't care if it is 18th C. French aristocrats pretending to be shepherdesses or postmodern hipsters wearing seed-caps and drinking Schlitz. If you've never had to track back through the grocery store, re-shelving things you can't afford, if you've never had to decide if getting stitches on a bad cut would be worth the cost of a doctor's bill, if you've never been poor, lived in a rough neighborhood, etcetera, then you shouldn't go around acting like poverty is such a laugh and a merry game. Because it isn't.

I guess I feel that it is okay to make the occasional wisecrack about one's self being "white trash" or "ghetto" or whatever, if you actually do come from that background, but when somebody who comes from privilege wants to make like he's a "redneck" or talk street slang, it feels like mockery to me. Or the trendster adoption of a few superficial aspects of frankly an unpleasant way of life. Rednecks drink too much cheap beer and watch NASCAR and listen to dirty ol' buttrock because that's the only knowledge of pleasure they have and many other amusements are simply too expensive. Ever see a hillbilly out golfing? No, I bet you didn't. Those damn clubs can cost a hundred bucks each, and you can't just use the same club for everything, apparently, and they you have to pay fees to use a golf course, often you actually have to belong to a "Country Club" and if you wish to be able to play well, you either need to have lessons or have a LOT of time to practice--more free time than most working-class people get. Stuff like classical music, opera, and theatre are often a closed book to people who aren't pretty well-off, too, because both are things that make most sense when experienced live, and symphony tickets, opera tickets, and theatre tickets don't come terribly cheap.

I think I have probably posted something to this effect before, but it is one of those things that really pushes my hot-buttons. I just hate like hell to see poverty trivialized or glamorized, because it makes it that much easier for rich people to write off the poor as ignorant slobs, when there is a complicated web of reasons that people are poor and remain that way.
 
I have to tell you that over here in the UK pretenting to be a scally, charva, pikey, rude-boy, ned, kev whatever is a common pastime among the middle-classes. Journalists, however, seem to be the worst offenders - they seem to believe themselves to be part of some kind of £80,000-a-year proletariat.

Where I live is a particularly bad neighbourhood. It's full of middle-class, ageing hippy socialists who think themselves a bit 'street' and not snobby. However, Newcastle has the most private school kids in the country - me and a couple of dozen others are literally the ONLY boys from my ultra-snobby neighbourhood who go to a state school but we still have to put up with Lib-Dem do-gooders preaching about 'working class revolution' or something.
 
Originally posted by ahhGucci+Jun 19th, 2004 - 7:44 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ahhGucci @ Jun 19th, 2004 - 7:44 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-softgrey@Jun 16th, 2004 - 4:04 pm
it's funny to me how you guys are so focused on the jounalists...

over here...no one even looks at the byline...and the individual writers are barely noticed...
curious... :unsure:  :innocent:
Are Kit and Tybalt the exception? I don't know many other people who are are focused on the journo as our Kit and Tybalt. Maybe Charlie is a columnist :unsure:.

By the way, I hear that some journalists make £80,000 per year. Softgrey, is this just a misconception?
Thanks :)[/b][/quote]
AHH GUCCI :heart:

It's just that I'd like to see some really good male fashion journalism : a suitable heir to Colin McDowell : rather than this fey blog by a man/boy playing at being a pikey one week and then preening himself on Savile Row the next , interspersed with deep ponderings as to whether Jil Sander 's are the sandals to buy this summer , since he has no doubt grown tired of his ' last year's ' Prada/Miu MIU ones . :angry: :angry: :angry:

" VANITY , thy name is Charlie !!! ( AND KIT , but I hope that I disguise mine better ) . :cry: :cry: :cry:

KIT :blush: :blush: :blush:
 
feelancers get paid more than staffers...and i believe that 80,000 pounds or euros...whatever that symbol is...is the high end of the spectrum...if this guy charlie has been at it for awhile, then prehaps he has reached that level...

but for every one of those...there are at least 10-20 virtual slaves working away for practically nothing...people in publishing often come from some money...that's how they can afford the enslavement period until they reach a reasonable salary...

this is generally true...though there are always exceptions to everything... ;)
 

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