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Junya Watanabe Mens F/W 13.14 Paris
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Something of the French Resistance about it?
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This collection is boring.
Although I do like it in some ways....it just seems like another re-hashed "patches" collection from Watanabe (again).
I'm not longer calling him Junya, anymore. Thus further...i will simply refer to him as "Patches Watanabe."
Trust me, I've LOVED and supported Patches for a very long time, but after seeing this collection, I'm now so under-whelmed.
I understand that the Watanabe MENS collection is based on classics, and re=interpreting them. I understand that he deliberately wants to keep his mens collection very far and separate (in esthetic) from his women.s collection.....but in regards to something new, or constructed with better sewing techniques, he could do so much MORE for his menswear.
From his 2004 F/W Mens collection.....he played with tapestry prints, brocades, unique fabrics, etc.......and some of the sport-coats had ergonomically sculpted elbows that were articulated, darted, etc.
In all of his following collections after 2004....he's played it safe.....but using typical plaids, herringbones, gingham checks, stripes and argyles. Way too safe and mundane i/m/o
Look at the most current collection from Comme Des Garcons Homme Plus. Look at what Rei Kawakubo did with different brocade patterns.
The Homme Plus collection looks like the collection WatanabE SHOULD HAVE DONE after his 2004 A/W mens collection.....it's more of a continuation.
The construction of his women's collection ALWAYS blows my mind. Only a designer with amazing sewing skills and techniques (a master craftsman) can construct like he does, true??
This collection merely looks like all the plaid wool pieces typically seen in Homme Plus that have been boiled and shrink to fit.....but in this instance and collection....patches have been added onto them. BIG WHOOP!!??
Anybody with about 50 dollars in their pocket, and minor sewing skills could make one of these patchwork jackets, on their own.
Simply visit a Goodwill store...or a Salvation Army. Search for a vintage jacket in plaid or herringbone, 100 percent wool....in a size that is a bit too big. Take it home....put it in a washing machine.....put in in the drying machine (so it will shrink)....and sew sew patches on it with scraps of fabric. if you can't sew...use a glue gun. Seriously.
You'll save yourself at least $1500.00 in the process.
Although I do like it in some ways....it just seems like another re-hashed "patches" collection from Watanabe (again).
I'm not longer calling him Junya, anymore. Thus further...i will simply refer to him as "Patches Watanabe."
Trust me, I've LOVED and supported Patches for a very long time, but after seeing this collection, I'm now so under-whelmed.
I understand that the Watanabe MENS collection is based on classics, and re=interpreting them. I understand that he deliberately wants to keep his mens collection very far and separate (in esthetic) from his women.s collection.....but in regards to something new, or constructed with better sewing techniques, he could do so much MORE for his menswear.
From his 2004 F/W Mens collection.....he played with tapestry prints, brocades, unique fabrics, etc.......and some of the sport-coats had ergonomically sculpted elbows that were articulated, darted, etc.
In all of his following collections after 2004....he's played it safe.....but using typical plaids, herringbones, gingham checks, stripes and argyles. Way too safe and mundane i/m/o
Look at the most current collection from Comme Des Garcons Homme Plus. Look at what Rei Kawakubo did with different brocade patterns.
The Homme Plus collection looks like the collection WatanabE SHOULD HAVE DONE after his 2004 A/W mens collection.....it's more of a continuation.
The construction of his women's collection ALWAYS blows my mind. Only a designer with amazing sewing skills and techniques (a master craftsman) can construct like he does, true??
This collection merely looks like all the plaid wool pieces typically seen in Homme Plus that have been boiled and shrink to fit.....but in this instance and collection....patches have been added onto them. BIG WHOOP!!??
Anybody with about 50 dollars in their pocket, and minor sewing skills could make one of these patchwork jackets, on their own.
Simply visit a Goodwill store...or a Salvation Army. Search for a vintage jacket in plaid or herringbone, 100 percent wool....in a size that is a bit too big. Take it home....put it in a washing machine.....put in in the drying machine (so it will shrink)....and sew sew patches on it with scraps of fabric. if you can't sew...use a glue gun. Seriously.
You'll save yourself at least $1500.00 in the process.
^you seem to really speak from the heart. I can see where you are coming from, there is no doubt that junya's woman seems to be ions ahead of menswear, at least conceptual wise. I wonder if he perceives men dressed closer to his own pleasure and women as a journey to the twilight zone, either way, both are always fom the heart and no doubt articulated to the most finite detail.
I frankly like to think every patch and stitch are precisely placed unlike anything from thrift. They are worlds apart...because he is a thinker and an engineer.
He drives the train.
I frankly like to think every patch and stitch are precisely placed unlike anything from thrift. They are worlds apart...because he is a thinker and an engineer.
He drives the train.
come on mike....you will never get anything close to this with fabric glue and thrift shop material....believe me i've been there and i've done that and although it's fun and interesting it's not the same.
and granted,his menswear isn't the same as it used to be but it's by and large one of the more interesting labels around. i just think he does really great accessible quirkiness.
and granted,his menswear isn't the same as it used to be but it's by and large one of the more interesting labels around. i just think he does really great accessible quirkiness.
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I will agree that Watanabe is DEFINTELY one of THE MOST interesting designers within the fashion industry.
I can only wish to be as talented with construction as Watanabe is.
I can't say I hate this collection entirely....because it is quite unique, fun, and cute to wear.....but
I think what I'm getting upset about.....in concern for Watanabe....is that he's beginning to be.....too predictable and one-note.
Season after season....his menswear collections always seem to be the same.
He explores different genre's....such as utility-wear....military-wear....nautical-wear, etc etc.....but by this point, it's all becoming too redundant to me.
This collection is interesting....but probably b/c of my own personal taste towards severe deconstruction....... heavy reconstruction.....it's just "too" accessible for me to want to wear.
Homme Plus by Rei blew my mind. Especially the zip-up baseball jackets.....that have the deconstructed and re-attached bottom 1/2 of longer coat sewn onto them.
I can only wish to be as talented with construction as Watanabe is.
I can't say I hate this collection entirely....because it is quite unique, fun, and cute to wear.....but
I think what I'm getting upset about.....in concern for Watanabe....is that he's beginning to be.....too predictable and one-note.
Season after season....his menswear collections always seem to be the same.
He explores different genre's....such as utility-wear....military-wear....nautical-wear, etc etc.....but by this point, it's all becoming too redundant to me.
This collection is interesting....but probably b/c of my own personal taste towards severe deconstruction....... heavy reconstruction.....it's just "too" accessible for me to want to wear.
Homme Plus by Rei blew my mind. Especially the zip-up baseball jackets.....that have the deconstructed and re-attached bottom 1/2 of longer coat sewn onto them.
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As far as Watanabe being a construction genius....these pants are an example.
I'd wear this pants in a split second, any day.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Comme-des-Garcons-Pants-/330862319249?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D5070746824667860994%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D330862319249%26
I'd wear this pants in a split second, any day.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Comme-des-Garcons-Pants-/330862319249?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D5070746824667860994%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D330862319249%26
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I think I understand you with your thoughtfully chosen words.
but as long as the reason you are getting upset is exactly junya man's reason for existing there in the CdG universe, it seems to be rather difficult for junya man to satisfy you.
he is a man who is alright with a shirt and pants and, if it's chilly, a jacket.
and with junya man, he basically designs such clothes as he himself feels like wearing.
it is unlikely that it soon turns into a menswear line that introduces drastically different or new kind of pleasure every season. creation for the line is developmental one, which has the support of the local retailers. so it has the role.
but as long as the reason you are getting upset is exactly junya man's reason for existing there in the CdG universe, it seems to be rather difficult for junya man to satisfy you.
he is a man who is alright with a shirt and pants and, if it's chilly, a jacket.
and with junya man, he basically designs such clothes as he himself feels like wearing.
it is unlikely that it soon turns into a menswear line that introduces drastically different or new kind of pleasure every season. creation for the line is developmental one, which has the support of the local retailers. so it has the role.
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I'm waiting for Watanabe to do a collection that's similar to this collection he did for men back in A/W 2004.
I own 5 jackets from this collection. It's the only collection that he's put out since 2004, that I actually liked.
I own this green jacket jacket with the gold stripes....I will post other pics.
I used to love Watanabe MAN......just not anymore.
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=567553&d=1292652495
I own 5 jackets from this collection. It's the only collection that he's put out since 2004, that I actually liked.
I own this green jacket jacket with the gold stripes....I will post other pics.
I used to love Watanabe MAN......just not anymore.
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=567553&d=1292652495
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For the editorial, the model is wearing 2 separate jackets. I own the multicolored flowered jacket on the right side.
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=567547&d=1292652190
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=567547&d=1292652190
