Models Switching Agencies

[BLACKLAB]

margaryta had her chance when she did the prada show about 4 seasons ago, but she would never listen to her agents, thought she knew everything better than everyone else. she has also never been an easy girl to work with and has gotten a reputation for that. it is really too bad, as she has (had) one of the most stunning faces in the industry, imo.

 

[foreverandnone]

how do you know this?

Shes had some work lately. Money is money

 

[BLACKLAB]

i know it because i know people who know her agents very well. so i have heard all about her from direct sources. i have also seen her in person and in action. she had all the possibilities in the world, but did not live up to her potential. maybe she will finally get it together with next. i hope so for her.

 

[foreverandnone]

What was it like working with her? Is she like..a diva or something? Oh dear.

 

[penny609]

Yes that's really too bad, such a pity she didn't realise she had really good chances... well, she got work as long as she was with Joy, that's all I can say. She already switched to Women once (after seeing a few others in town if I remember well) where she was quite "lost in the masses" and didn't do that well. Then back to Joy and she got the work we see now... let's see how it works with Next but as far as I know, if you want to make it there you have to behave and work hard (almost everywhere but maybe next a little more).

 

[fritmayo]

, but she would never listen to her agents, thought she knew everything better than everyone else. she has also never been an easy girl to work with and has gotten a reputation for that. .

that's the same reasons for 80% of the girls who have good starts and disapear quickly after.
Usually, ready to follow anybody anywhere for quick bucks immediatly, but lacking brain to think more than a season in advance.
the 20% of other girls who last longer, they just have more brain...

 

[foreverandnone]

maybe some girls just dont take it so seriously. Like its just modeling, yeah it can make you a lot of money but I dunno. Not every girl signed up with needs be a sheep and just do everything she is told without question. Thats an insult to their intelligence. Trust is a nice thing to have, but some people just naturally don't trust everyone they meet..including agents.

There is always school if modeling doesn't work out. It's not the end of the world.

 

[penny609]

Fritmayo has quite a rough way to put things but I sort of agree with him on many points in his post. And as for sheeps, the real sheeps from my point of view at least would be those who suddenly follow someone else after her mother agent/current rep agent invested on them while the other just seems cooler or promise them the moon.

Then, as you say, some girls might not easily trust... but why trust a new agent after not even trusting the one that was there from the beginnings. Sometimes it can be explained by a certain lack of communication from the agent or mother agent and in these cases a switch could make sense (even if it's not always for the best).

And as for girls not taking it too seriously, I don't think the girls that switch for money reasons aren't taking it seriously. But well, every single case is possible and some choices are just random of course.

ETA: I totally agree with your last sentence.

 

[fritmayo]

maybe some girls just dont take it so seriously. Like its just modeling, yeah it can make you a lot of money but I dunno. Not every girl signed up with needs be a sheep and just do everything she is told without question. Thats an insult to their intelligence. Trust is a nice thing to have, but some people just naturally don't trust everyone they meet..including agents.
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An insult to their intelligence?
Not really. Since when a 16 years old as clever as it could be, could have the basic knowledegments to make right choices, in a very very specific business which "can" lead to some deals representing huge amount of money in involving many people who have always been invloved for a living in dealing girls and contracts.

That's not just for modelling, it is also true for sport, music, or any field where natural skill or talent can sometimes very young to bring very serious money. No teenagers, no family has natural knowledegement to manage that well, the only clever thing to do, is to choose the right agent, after, best thing is to concentrate on work, to manage at best the evolution and the money, it os for people who has experience to do it.

I not gonna put names here, but i could, or from first hand experience from me, or from cases that i know in details well enough, to put just in taking the last 3 years, at least 10 girls, who started quickly to book some majors shows or some very good edito, and who just messed up the things, in trying to be "more clever" than their managers...

 

[cologne_rocks]

Sometimes quite the opposite, some girls do just try to hard and want to reach everything as they want to be with Supreme and they want to be in/on Vogue without even having built up a solid book. They all want to be supermodels and some of the very hard-trying girls become literally crazy and obsessed with modelling, they stop to listen to their agents, they want to make everything on their own, they start to apply at agencies even though they sometimes have worldwide placements and and and.... they don't want to understand that they are only being sent to small castings because of a lame walk and lame book, then they start to bulldoze their agents by phone and mail and and and....

If you want to be a succesful model and have the phisical makings you have to remember that it is for the model a "follow or get out of the way"-thing. Agents know why they don't let their models do this job or why they do not send to to this town or to the Marc Jacobs casting and so on.
I'm a fan of step by step developments, there's no reason to overstate things, and have a look at this super cute Samantha girl who just opened Prada, she done everything right... she's been modelling for many years first went aboroad in Spring 2009, did three show seasons (but only small shows) and this season she had what every model is dreaming of - a Prada exclusive with opening and closing. For a model it's so important to trust your agents, you don't have to exactly understand things they say, but you should be able to listen to them.

 

[Gaultier_Bandit]

Like a Cake....how you gon try to put your cake in the oven, if you dont have all the ingredients and preperation yet..Lol

 

[foreverandnone]

An insult to their intelligence?
Not really. Since when a 16 years old as clever as it could be, could have the basic knowledegments to make right choices, in a very very specific business which "can" lead to some deals representing huge amount of money in involving many people who have always been invloved for a living in dealing girls and contracts.

That's not just for modelling, it is also true for sport, music, or any field where natural skill or talent can sometimes very young to bring very serious money. No teenagers, no family has natural knowledegement to manage that well, the only clever thing to do, is to choose the right agent, after, best thing is to concentrate on work, to manage at best the evolution and the money, it os for people who has experience to do it.

I not gonna put names here, but i could, or from first hand experience from me, or from cases that i know in details well enough, to put just in taking the last 3 years, at least 10 girls, who started quickly to book some majors shows or some very good edito, and who just messed up the things, in trying to be "more clever" than their managers...

Not everyone can deal with being told what do, what to say, how to act, etc. And to expect every model to fit into that mold IS an insult. Some people do question everything, its not something they control. Personalities clash. You can be really upbeat on a shoot and feed off that vibe or be really annoyed and dislike it. You know? Some people just don't get along. *shrug*

I don't condone screwing up your job but if they aren't attempting to do the best they can and are making it difficult for themselves then it's obviously not their first priority and its not something they have their whole heart into.
Its a lot to do with personality. There are perfectionists who take it upon themselves to do everything with tremendous ...perfection whether they hate it or not, and then you have people who will barely want anything to do with it but what they "need" to do and only do the absolute minimum to keep their head above water. Students do the same thing . "All I want is a C" and it has a consequence but yet for a great disinterest, its an accomplishment.

Unless the model is being absolutely outrageous on shoots like screaming and demanding things and making fun of people. *ahem* like a certain supreme model with green eyes smoking on planess

It's sometimes the models fault, but like I said, maybe they just don't care. You can lead a horse to water...

eta: Im not in the modeling industry, but its just the way some people are. There are always reasons behind actions and some people can't distinguish work from personal life. Who knows? Maybe the rebellion is part of a bigger problem. It's just hard to say one reason .

 

[fritmayo]

Not everyone can deal with being told what do, what to say, how to act, etc. And to expect every model to fit into that mold IS an insult. Some people do question everything, its not something they control. Personalities clash. You can be really upbeat on a shoot and feed off that vibe or be really annoyed and dislike it. You know? Some people just don't get along. *shrug*

It's sometimes the models fault, but like I said, maybe they just don't care. You can lead a horse to water...

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in fact I agree with you, for sure it is part of personality to be able "to follow advices" or at the opposite to want to do it in ur own way.
What i meant is that girls in the first category of personality has just more chance to succeed.
And as i said previously, there are exemple in other fields, sport being the most obvious, many talent wasted because of personality not able to follow closely training sessions or things like that...


And i also agree that the reasons to do like that is different for every girl, my first input was of course a general statement, and i was just pointing the consequences of such behaviour, i was not saying that there was 'no reason' for such behaviour.

Also, some girls just dont get into the modelling "things", the trips, working and hanging out with mostly older people, if needed...the diet, the sometimes not very nice critic a castings, the hectic life in models apartments, but those usually are not girls changing of agency or making complication, they just quit or give very little place to modelling very quickly.

 

[foreverandnone]

Its very true. Everythig you said was true too though. But some people..you know? They just can't cope. And who knows whats going on in their head.

 

[modela]

Why is Caroline Trentini featured on Women's blog?? Her picture of walking Giles is posted.Is it a mistake or could it be an indication that she is leaving IMG?

 

[fer19dog]

There is a rumor that she is switching to Women/Supreme
This comes from a very reliable source.

 

[modela]

really?thanks for replying.

 

[foreverandnone]

Was it mentioned Alice Dellal switched from Marylin to Next ?

 

[maffam]

A blind item from the Imagist:

SCOOP DU JOUR: CONTINENTAL SHIFTS AND A REALIGNED UNIVERSE
Submitted by Wayne on Tue, 2010-03-09 04:32.
In LA recovering from two epic Post-Oscar blowouts but hangover or not TI is forced to contemplate that astonishingly radical shift that rocked NYC this morning. In one fell swoop, three of the biggest modeling agencies in NYC have been thrown into realignment. Bonus points to the punter who can name all three power shops currently processing what amounts to a continental shift in the business.

 

[1FashionVictim]

A comment on the blind item said the three agencies were Women, Supreme and Ford, although we don't know if it is credible or not