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The F/W 2026.27 Show Schedules...
New York Fashion Week (February 11th - February 16th) London Fashion Week (February 19th - February 23rd) Milan Fashion Week (February 24th - March 2nd) Paris Fashion Week (March 2nd - March 10th)
Natalya Piro
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I've already tried to answer, but there had been a few bugs for a while and the messages ended up in the 1st page of this thread...
Now it seems that things are going back to normal, so I'll copy&paste my post down here, it should now appear correctly at the end of the thread...
Here it is:
Thanks a LOT to mariemaud for the interview!!!
Here's my translation (note that I'm not 100% sure about a coupla passages...
). Anyway, here we go:
The odessan Natal'ja Pirozhkova has been awarded a contract and has now been for a few months in Paris with Next agency. Lidija Shamina, journalist of the "Izvestija", interviewed the odessan Natal'ja Pirozhkova - now parisian Natalya Piro - about the carachteristics of the fashion biz in Ukraine, Paris & New York.
Compare the fashion biz in Ukraine and France...
The main thing is that here they give you your book - you know, the photo album with your portfolio, something no model can work without - on loan, while in Ukraine you must pay it yourself right from the beginning. And it means a lot of money. Abroad they give you everything you need - the book, a flat...and then you can gradually pay them with the jobs they get you. Can't pay your debths - they fly you back home.
In Odessa we have a few serious agencies, the most famous one is "Scarlett". It's run by two sisters, one living in Odessa and the other in Paris, so there's a direct link. But in order to be with them, you need to make a book by yourself, which also means you have to own many expensive clothes, i.e... But I'm from a poor family, all the money was used for education. I had finished high school and was looking forward to college, when the odessan agency "Art-Podium" announced they were going to have some free admissions.
For days thousands of girls assembled there, from sunrise to sunset - all tall, with high heels.
You know, now I'm self-confident, but back then I'd always been complexed by my height...so I went there wearing jeans and snickers.
The casting was run by the agency's director, Elena Ivanchenko, who's a former model herself. She took pics of me, I walked in front of her, and she said: "I'll call you".
You know, I didn't believe she was really going to...I mean, that's what everybody says. But she did call. And so I started learning about fashion.
What was the most difficult thing for you?
The catwalk. I always had my back a bit curved, and they kept hitting it so that I took the right posture. But you know, being a model is something I dreamt of since I was a child, so I didn't break. Apart from the catwalk, they also taught us how to talk to clients, how to properly eat, how to dance also. I must confess I didn't really have many hopes back then; I said to myself: ok, if it goes fine, then good, I'll continue doing this. Besides, I hadn't got the money to take a real, professional photo-test. A single test costed 20 dollars, and it was horribly expensive for me.
And then my agency manager, who made friends with Stas Jankelevskij - the director of the serious Kiev agency "El'-models", invited me over to make a few tests at the agency.
It was my first real photosession, and it was just horrible. The photographer was always grabbing his head saying "Oh my god, can't you stand properly?". He was a young and handsome guy, and the whole situation was so bad for me that I said to myself: "Enough, I'm going home".
But the pics didn't come out that bad, and they invited me to Kiev for a modeling contest, the main prize of which was a contract with Next agency. And I won!
By the way, it was a bit of a delusion at first: I had dreamt of a crown and a wonderful dress, and instead all they gave me was a sheet of paper, and that was it. And then they even took it back - they said they needed it to apply for my visa to the States. My jaw dropped: I hadn't even ever been to Moscow, and they were talking about flying me to New York, and for a whole month! How could I leave my husband? - I had married very young. And so I felt like running home, away from all that madness.
And you just stayed home?
No, couldn't manage to. They called me to be in a music clip of the group "Zveri" - I didn't even heard about them before. I went there, and the vocalist was so small his head was just a bit higher than my waist. I had to take my high heels off and go barefoot.
When they started to show that clip on MusicTV and everybody started to call me and to congratulate, I calmed down. Maybe after all it was right for me to take that chance? I obtained my visa and flied to NYC.
Alone?
Completely! It was awful. Try to imagine it: ukrainian, teachers at the high school practically had to learn english from scratch alongside with us, and I was also flying for the first time. And my book was completely emptied - the ukrainian shoot I had been so proud of didn't really please them. Luckily, abroad they make your book and you can later pay it as you start gaining money.
I've been lucky: a female photographer, who works for catalogues, liked me. And catalogues are the best payed job, so I started to gain very fast and soon got rid of my debths.
Also, the first time you go abroad, they give you a tourist visa - it's like a recognition, you know...to see how the girl behave, how much she's liked. It seems that they did like me, as after a month they gave me a working visa. By then I already had a decent book, I also got a cover for Elle - ok, the mexican one, but it was shot in NYC. They considered it quite a success for a total beginner. And they sent me to their agency in Paris.
There weren't problems with the book here?
Of course there were! They emptied it again and I had to fill it from scratch again. But I was used to it by then and now I've been working for six months in Paris without any problem.
And what about your husband?
He understands me. We agreed on this right from the start: I'd do what I liked to. If there had been problems, I'd returned home, but as long as it all goes fine, why going back? After all he can be proud of me: her wife is a model in Paris. Even if he came here, he wouldn't be able to see me all day. Therefore I never invite him here, I rather go seeing him myself.
Now we're in the midst of a fashion week. How's your day?
A few castings in the morning - they choose models for the shows. Fittings also - they adjust the clothes you're going to walk in on the catwalk.
How many looks you have in a show?
It depends. If the collection is complicated, they hire more girls so that each has more time to change from one look to the other. Anyway, usually it's three or four looks in a show, so it was i.e. yesterday at Ungaro.
Who sends you to castings?
The agency. Next, whom I'm with, has offices all around the world, the models' pics are endlessly updated and replaced on their site. And also the bookers - the agents who deal with us - perfectly understand that if you keep working only in one place, you'll be less visible, and therefore you'll have less chances to become big. That's why we keep wandering between New York, London, Milan and Paris.
Are you fluent in english now?
Yeah, it came just naturally. I have many model-friends, and it also helped me to get acquainted. It's brilliant: one day you're sitting in a milanese bar, and the day after you'll meet on a catwalk in Tokyo.
Who decides to give you a job or not?
Clients - designers, photographers. At a casting you're seen by dozens of people - designers, photographers, makeup artists...each makes his own choice and then all together they decide. That's what they need your book for - by the way, clients like me because my face can be made anything from lolita to vamp. Anyway, my book is always the first thing I put in my bag at mornings, you need to carry it with yourself always and everywhere.
The girls from Elite have books twice smaller - and lighter - and we're all envyous of that detail!
Does the agency contract give you a sensation of security?
I've got a 3-years contract, but this doesn't mean that I can relax. Over the last times so many new girls joined our agency, that they had to make some selection: they browsed through the books, took all our measurements again, checked how fast did we pay our debths. If slowly, then it means the girl has had too few jobs and hasn't got many chances.
Now that you live abroad, how do you compare the fashion biz in Russia and in the West?
In Russia models care about their looks at castings too: you get to see beautiful jewels, designers' clothes, lot of makeup. Here everybody's simpler - jeans, top, snickers, often no hairdo and no makeup at all. We all understand each other here: we all had hard times at first and we're not forgetting it. And when a new girl appears, nobody thinks about competition, quite the opposite, everybody tries to help and support.
Where does the majority of models come from?
Brazil, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland...
Is it true that there are also models' trends, and if you adapt yourself you'll get more jobs?
It used to be so. First they all wanted brunettes, then blondes, then slavic faces...nowadays every client has his own requests, and you just can't talk about a monolitic trend anymore.
What do you do when the fashion week is over?
No catwalks means more photosessions for mags and catalogues. They make new ones every six months, so it's a continuous job. Provided that they know you, of course. And also, if you have discipline. It's also very important to get along with your booker - the number of jobs you get depends on this too. Note that if something doesn't work, you can change booker. Before Aleksandra - who's in charge of me now - I had a male booker, whom I could never really have a contact with. So I talked to the agency's managers, and they changed my booker.
At the agency they try to provide us with a family atmosphere: bookers know your problems, who's missing the relatives, who wants to change apartment - everything, really.
I.e., I couldn't have done this interview without their agreement - this is part of the contract too. You can't be an indipendent model - it wouldn't be professional. Even the supermodels have bookers and agents behind them.
What do you like better - catwalks or shoots?
It depends on the people. I.e., I've been working a few times with portuguese Vogue, and we've been like a big family, you know, we dined together, walked together...
If I go there, they'll have a job for me. And they'd come in Paris for me.
It's very important to be open - they appreciate it in the West.
Where do you like better to live?
In Paris. The place somehow reminds my of Odessa...
Now it seems that things are going back to normal, so I'll copy&paste my post down here, it should now appear correctly at the end of the thread...
Here it is:
Thanks a LOT to mariemaud for the interview!!!
Here's my translation (note that I'm not 100% sure about a coupla passages...
). Anyway, here we go:The odessan Natal'ja Pirozhkova has been awarded a contract and has now been for a few months in Paris with Next agency. Lidija Shamina, journalist of the "Izvestija", interviewed the odessan Natal'ja Pirozhkova - now parisian Natalya Piro - about the carachteristics of the fashion biz in Ukraine, Paris & New York.
Compare the fashion biz in Ukraine and France...
The main thing is that here they give you your book - you know, the photo album with your portfolio, something no model can work without - on loan, while in Ukraine you must pay it yourself right from the beginning. And it means a lot of money. Abroad they give you everything you need - the book, a flat...and then you can gradually pay them with the jobs they get you. Can't pay your debths - they fly you back home.
In Odessa we have a few serious agencies, the most famous one is "Scarlett". It's run by two sisters, one living in Odessa and the other in Paris, so there's a direct link. But in order to be with them, you need to make a book by yourself, which also means you have to own many expensive clothes, i.e... But I'm from a poor family, all the money was used for education. I had finished high school and was looking forward to college, when the odessan agency "Art-Podium" announced they were going to have some free admissions.
For days thousands of girls assembled there, from sunrise to sunset - all tall, with high heels.
You know, now I'm self-confident, but back then I'd always been complexed by my height...so I went there wearing jeans and snickers.
The casting was run by the agency's director, Elena Ivanchenko, who's a former model herself. She took pics of me, I walked in front of her, and she said: "I'll call you".
You know, I didn't believe she was really going to...I mean, that's what everybody says. But she did call. And so I started learning about fashion.
What was the most difficult thing for you?
The catwalk. I always had my back a bit curved, and they kept hitting it so that I took the right posture. But you know, being a model is something I dreamt of since I was a child, so I didn't break. Apart from the catwalk, they also taught us how to talk to clients, how to properly eat, how to dance also. I must confess I didn't really have many hopes back then; I said to myself: ok, if it goes fine, then good, I'll continue doing this. Besides, I hadn't got the money to take a real, professional photo-test. A single test costed 20 dollars, and it was horribly expensive for me.
And then my agency manager, who made friends with Stas Jankelevskij - the director of the serious Kiev agency "El'-models", invited me over to make a few tests at the agency.
It was my first real photosession, and it was just horrible. The photographer was always grabbing his head saying "Oh my god, can't you stand properly?". He was a young and handsome guy, and the whole situation was so bad for me that I said to myself: "Enough, I'm going home".
But the pics didn't come out that bad, and they invited me to Kiev for a modeling contest, the main prize of which was a contract with Next agency. And I won!
By the way, it was a bit of a delusion at first: I had dreamt of a crown and a wonderful dress, and instead all they gave me was a sheet of paper, and that was it. And then they even took it back - they said they needed it to apply for my visa to the States. My jaw dropped: I hadn't even ever been to Moscow, and they were talking about flying me to New York, and for a whole month! How could I leave my husband? - I had married very young. And so I felt like running home, away from all that madness.
And you just stayed home?
No, couldn't manage to. They called me to be in a music clip of the group "Zveri" - I didn't even heard about them before. I went there, and the vocalist was so small his head was just a bit higher than my waist. I had to take my high heels off and go barefoot.
When they started to show that clip on MusicTV and everybody started to call me and to congratulate, I calmed down. Maybe after all it was right for me to take that chance? I obtained my visa and flied to NYC.
Alone?
Completely! It was awful. Try to imagine it: ukrainian, teachers at the high school practically had to learn english from scratch alongside with us, and I was also flying for the first time. And my book was completely emptied - the ukrainian shoot I had been so proud of didn't really please them. Luckily, abroad they make your book and you can later pay it as you start gaining money.
I've been lucky: a female photographer, who works for catalogues, liked me. And catalogues are the best payed job, so I started to gain very fast and soon got rid of my debths.
Also, the first time you go abroad, they give you a tourist visa - it's like a recognition, you know...to see how the girl behave, how much she's liked. It seems that they did like me, as after a month they gave me a working visa. By then I already had a decent book, I also got a cover for Elle - ok, the mexican one, but it was shot in NYC. They considered it quite a success for a total beginner. And they sent me to their agency in Paris.
There weren't problems with the book here?
Of course there were! They emptied it again and I had to fill it from scratch again. But I was used to it by then and now I've been working for six months in Paris without any problem.
And what about your husband?
He understands me. We agreed on this right from the start: I'd do what I liked to. If there had been problems, I'd returned home, but as long as it all goes fine, why going back? After all he can be proud of me: her wife is a model in Paris. Even if he came here, he wouldn't be able to see me all day. Therefore I never invite him here, I rather go seeing him myself.
Now we're in the midst of a fashion week. How's your day?
A few castings in the morning - they choose models for the shows. Fittings also - they adjust the clothes you're going to walk in on the catwalk.
How many looks you have in a show?
It depends. If the collection is complicated, they hire more girls so that each has more time to change from one look to the other. Anyway, usually it's three or four looks in a show, so it was i.e. yesterday at Ungaro.
Who sends you to castings?
The agency. Next, whom I'm with, has offices all around the world, the models' pics are endlessly updated and replaced on their site. And also the bookers - the agents who deal with us - perfectly understand that if you keep working only in one place, you'll be less visible, and therefore you'll have less chances to become big. That's why we keep wandering between New York, London, Milan and Paris.
Are you fluent in english now?
Yeah, it came just naturally. I have many model-friends, and it also helped me to get acquainted. It's brilliant: one day you're sitting in a milanese bar, and the day after you'll meet on a catwalk in Tokyo.
Who decides to give you a job or not?
Clients - designers, photographers. At a casting you're seen by dozens of people - designers, photographers, makeup artists...each makes his own choice and then all together they decide. That's what they need your book for - by the way, clients like me because my face can be made anything from lolita to vamp. Anyway, my book is always the first thing I put in my bag at mornings, you need to carry it with yourself always and everywhere.
The girls from Elite have books twice smaller - and lighter - and we're all envyous of that detail!
Does the agency contract give you a sensation of security?
I've got a 3-years contract, but this doesn't mean that I can relax. Over the last times so many new girls joined our agency, that they had to make some selection: they browsed through the books, took all our measurements again, checked how fast did we pay our debths. If slowly, then it means the girl has had too few jobs and hasn't got many chances.
Now that you live abroad, how do you compare the fashion biz in Russia and in the West?
In Russia models care about their looks at castings too: you get to see beautiful jewels, designers' clothes, lot of makeup. Here everybody's simpler - jeans, top, snickers, often no hairdo and no makeup at all. We all understand each other here: we all had hard times at first and we're not forgetting it. And when a new girl appears, nobody thinks about competition, quite the opposite, everybody tries to help and support.
Where does the majority of models come from?
Brazil, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland...
Is it true that there are also models' trends, and if you adapt yourself you'll get more jobs?
It used to be so. First they all wanted brunettes, then blondes, then slavic faces...nowadays every client has his own requests, and you just can't talk about a monolitic trend anymore.
What do you do when the fashion week is over?
No catwalks means more photosessions for mags and catalogues. They make new ones every six months, so it's a continuous job. Provided that they know you, of course. And also, if you have discipline. It's also very important to get along with your booker - the number of jobs you get depends on this too. Note that if something doesn't work, you can change booker. Before Aleksandra - who's in charge of me now - I had a male booker, whom I could never really have a contact with. So I talked to the agency's managers, and they changed my booker.
At the agency they try to provide us with a family atmosphere: bookers know your problems, who's missing the relatives, who wants to change apartment - everything, really.
I.e., I couldn't have done this interview without their agreement - this is part of the contract too. You can't be an indipendent model - it wouldn't be professional. Even the supermodels have bookers and agents behind them.
What do you like better - catwalks or shoots?
It depends on the people. I.e., I've been working a few times with portuguese Vogue, and we've been like a big family, you know, we dined together, walked together...
If I go there, they'll have a job for me. And they'd come in Paris for me.
It's very important to be open - they appreciate it in the West.
Where do you like better to live?
In Paris. The place somehow reminds my of Odessa...
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^thank you for the translation? about her curve in her back- does she have scoliosis or something?
^ Dunno, the article didn't say it 
...but I suppose it was just an habit (not so rare among tall people, particularly at that age - especially considering that, as she says, she was a bit complexed about her height...)
...but I suppose it was just an habit (not so rare among tall people, particularly at that age - especially considering that, as she says, she was a bit complexed about her height...)julesrules815
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