Hey all, I know there's a couple of Nine Inch Nails fans on the board, so if you didn't know already, the album just got leaked not long ago. I'm just starting to listen (at an ear-deafening level), and I must say it's pretty good so far. Some songs remind me alot of stuff that was on Broken (like track 2) and The Downward Spiral (like track 3), very aggressive and intense. My faves at this point are track 1 (All The Love In The World) and track 4 (the single The Hand That Feeds).
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I'm arguing with myself. I don't want to listen because it's somewhere in the realm of wrong, and yet..... we've (NIN fans) been waiting for this for SO LONG. something about that 'oh, here comes a new album...oh oh wait, nope, sorry...oh here it comes...oops another false alarm' thing.
ahhhh. for now I abstain, enjoy it for me?
can't wait for them to tour again
glad to hear it's good though, thanks for the info.
ahhhh. for now I abstain, enjoy it for me?
can't wait for them to tour again
glad to hear it's good though, thanks for the info.
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I've only heard the new single and it's quite decent. i cant wait to hear the rest.
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i thought it didn't come out until may 3rd....i'm waiting to buy it...they always have the coolest packaging!
i went to a listening party for the new cd a few weeks ago, and imo it's the best nin album ever!!! can't wait to see them next thursday!!!
i went to a listening party for the new cd a few weeks ago, and imo it's the best nin album ever!!! can't wait to see them next thursday!!!
kimair said:i thought it didn't come out until may 3rd....i'm waiting to buy it...they always have the coolest packaging!
i went to a listening party for the new cd a few weeks ago, and imo it's the best nin album ever!!! can't wait to see them next thursday!!!
OMG, you're so lucky! I've gotta wait till he announces the fall tour dates for the rest of north america
. Too bad Robin Fink and Danny Lohner aren't gonna do the tour.
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I dont like it as much as the fragile...
But its awesome. My favorite by far is "All the love in the world." I got a free poster and sticker with it too...yah!
But its awesome. My favorite by far is "All the love in the world." I got a free poster and sticker with it too...yah!
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BTW every day is exactly the same also rocks. 
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interview with trent reznor...
The redemption of rock's dark knight
(Filed: 07/07/2005)
As one of goth-rock's most sinister stars, Trent Reznor embraced drink, drugs and self-destructive excess. Now the Nine Inch Nails singer is the epitome of clean living. He tells Andrew Perry why he had to change
Trent Reznor, one of the megastars of gothic rock, is a surprisingly civilised fellow. His band, Nine Inch Nails, which is just him, with extra musicians joining for live tours, has made some of the most violent and macabre music of the past 20 years, influencing other giants of the goth netherworld such as Slipknot and Marilyn Manson.
Mr Angry: "I drew on depression and the romantic notion of the dark side as an inspiration," says Trent Reznor
When he performed a low-key show at London's Astoria theatre recently, warming up for a full-blown world tour that arrived in the UK this week, he was greeted like some nocturnal messiah. The audience, who were draped in goth's wildest regalia - a riot of piercings, tattoos, hair dye, PVC and netting - screamed out his lyrics in unison. Not knowing all the words, I felt like a new inductee at a cult meeting.
Reznor himself is not nearly as frightening as I'd imagined. He arrives for our meeting wearing none of his fans' brutal fashions, preferring black jeans, black T-shirt, and neat, jet-black hair. He stands at only about 5ft 8in tall, but is densely muscular. His skin is tanned, his eyes are blue and clear, and, in conversation, he is well-spoken, articulate and utterly charming.
"It's not like I ride a broom into interviews," he jokes when I ask him about his image as one of rock's dark overlords. "I don't hang upside down with a cape on."
One might wonder how any of the dysfunction that Reznor exorcises in his music could ever have attached itself to such a healthy, good-looking Alpha male.
It actually came early when his parents divorced while he was still young, leaving him to be raised by his grandparents in rural Pennsylvania.
Despite the total lack of any scene there, he somehow latched on to rock music. He remembers subscribing to the arty New York paper Village Voice, which "was like a portal to another planet". That portal flew open when, in the mid-'80s, Reznor went to college to study computer engineering.
There he discovered the harsh new electronic sounds emanating from Chicago and Belgium, which harnessed the latest progressions in synthesizer and Midi-computer technology to a grimy punk attitude. He felt as though he'd found his own identity, so he dropped out of college to make that type of music full-time.
In 1989, he released his first album as Nine Inch Nails, called Pretty Hate Machine, and was soon touring the world supporting Guns N' Roses.
Thanks to an energetically self-destructive stage show, Reznor was tipped as a future star, if he would toe the line. "The idiot who ran the label thought, 'Next time, we'll iron out all this naughty stuff, make it sound like Fine Young Cannibals, and we'll sell four times as much.' "
Mostly out of bloody-mindedness, Reznor concedes, his next couple of records went in the opposite direction, plumbing depths of self-loathing and twisted emotion through sheer sonic terror. These, contrary to industry expectations, touched a raw nerve, particularly among America's suburban youth.
His most extreme record thus far, The Downward Spiral (1995), which, famously, was recorded at the house where Roman Polanski's wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the Manson family, sold five million copies worldwide. This, he says, is when his problems really started.
"Fame, power, and people treating me differently - I wasn't equipped to deal with all that. It freaked me out. Like, can I even buy a faucet for a sink? And a house to put it in? I'd never even thought about those things."
He hid from public view in various side projects, such as movie soundtracks, and his label, Nothing, which launched Marilyn Manson's career. More damagingly, he hid from himself, in alcohol and hard drugs. These were his way of coping with his fear about making a follow-up to The Downward Spiral.
"It had been fun to tour," he says, "but it's not fun to sit in your room by yourself for a year - or two years, as it turned out."
When he listens now to 1999's comparatively ethereal The Fragile (which was nevertheless a massive international seller), he says that, to him, "it sounds like a paranoid, terrified person."
After touring that album for two years, he was "a complete mess". "I was really heading for death, there's no other way to put it."
Reznor's transformation into the clean-cut, genial man sitting opposite me began when he finally accepted that he had a problem, and got himself into rehab. Thereafter, he realised that he had to make some crucial changes in order to remain creative and alive - "like, not immediately burying myself in work, which had been my strategy for coping with life for 15 years, but to feel okay about myself first."
His self-esteem received an unexpected boost when Johnny Cash covered his nakedly honest anthem of addiction, Hurt. Released shortly before Cash's death in 2003, the track came to be seen as a poignant epitaph to the country singer's troubled life.
In January 2004, Reznor moved from his old adopted home of New Orleans to California, and there consulted Cash's latterday producer Rick Rubin on how to go about making records so he didn't almost kill himself every time. Within nine months - an unprecedentedly brief period by Reznor's standards - he'd completed With Teeth, which was released a couple of months ago.
Neutral observers might suggest that it sounds much like previous Nine Inch Nails albums, full of angst and anger, only with more concise and structured songs.
"It's not happy, don't worry," Reznor confirms with satisfaction.
"Everything isn't fixed, but there's a functional human being at the helm, for a change. There was a time when I would draw on depression and the romantic notion of the dark side as an inspiration - how low can I go? I thought I'd reached the bottom a few times, but then I'd realise there was another 30 floors of despair below that."
His clear, blue eyes shoot an emphatic look across the table at me. "And I have no desire to return to that."
The redemption of rock's dark knight
(Filed: 07/07/2005)
As one of goth-rock's most sinister stars, Trent Reznor embraced drink, drugs and self-destructive excess. Now the Nine Inch Nails singer is the epitome of clean living. He tells Andrew Perry why he had to change
Trent Reznor, one of the megastars of gothic rock, is a surprisingly civilised fellow. His band, Nine Inch Nails, which is just him, with extra musicians joining for live tours, has made some of the most violent and macabre music of the past 20 years, influencing other giants of the goth netherworld such as Slipknot and Marilyn Manson.
Mr Angry: "I drew on depression and the romantic notion of the dark side as an inspiration," says Trent Reznor
When he performed a low-key show at London's Astoria theatre recently, warming up for a full-blown world tour that arrived in the UK this week, he was greeted like some nocturnal messiah. The audience, who were draped in goth's wildest regalia - a riot of piercings, tattoos, hair dye, PVC and netting - screamed out his lyrics in unison. Not knowing all the words, I felt like a new inductee at a cult meeting.
Reznor himself is not nearly as frightening as I'd imagined. He arrives for our meeting wearing none of his fans' brutal fashions, preferring black jeans, black T-shirt, and neat, jet-black hair. He stands at only about 5ft 8in tall, but is densely muscular. His skin is tanned, his eyes are blue and clear, and, in conversation, he is well-spoken, articulate and utterly charming.
"It's not like I ride a broom into interviews," he jokes when I ask him about his image as one of rock's dark overlords. "I don't hang upside down with a cape on."
One might wonder how any of the dysfunction that Reznor exorcises in his music could ever have attached itself to such a healthy, good-looking Alpha male.
It actually came early when his parents divorced while he was still young, leaving him to be raised by his grandparents in rural Pennsylvania.
Despite the total lack of any scene there, he somehow latched on to rock music. He remembers subscribing to the arty New York paper Village Voice, which "was like a portal to another planet". That portal flew open when, in the mid-'80s, Reznor went to college to study computer engineering.
There he discovered the harsh new electronic sounds emanating from Chicago and Belgium, which harnessed the latest progressions in synthesizer and Midi-computer technology to a grimy punk attitude. He felt as though he'd found his own identity, so he dropped out of college to make that type of music full-time.
In 1989, he released his first album as Nine Inch Nails, called Pretty Hate Machine, and was soon touring the world supporting Guns N' Roses.
Thanks to an energetically self-destructive stage show, Reznor was tipped as a future star, if he would toe the line. "The idiot who ran the label thought, 'Next time, we'll iron out all this naughty stuff, make it sound like Fine Young Cannibals, and we'll sell four times as much.' "
Mostly out of bloody-mindedness, Reznor concedes, his next couple of records went in the opposite direction, plumbing depths of self-loathing and twisted emotion through sheer sonic terror. These, contrary to industry expectations, touched a raw nerve, particularly among America's suburban youth.
His most extreme record thus far, The Downward Spiral (1995), which, famously, was recorded at the house where Roman Polanski's wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the Manson family, sold five million copies worldwide. This, he says, is when his problems really started.
"Fame, power, and people treating me differently - I wasn't equipped to deal with all that. It freaked me out. Like, can I even buy a faucet for a sink? And a house to put it in? I'd never even thought about those things."
He hid from public view in various side projects, such as movie soundtracks, and his label, Nothing, which launched Marilyn Manson's career. More damagingly, he hid from himself, in alcohol and hard drugs. These were his way of coping with his fear about making a follow-up to The Downward Spiral.
"It had been fun to tour," he says, "but it's not fun to sit in your room by yourself for a year - or two years, as it turned out."
When he listens now to 1999's comparatively ethereal The Fragile (which was nevertheless a massive international seller), he says that, to him, "it sounds like a paranoid, terrified person."
After touring that album for two years, he was "a complete mess". "I was really heading for death, there's no other way to put it."
Reznor's transformation into the clean-cut, genial man sitting opposite me began when he finally accepted that he had a problem, and got himself into rehab. Thereafter, he realised that he had to make some crucial changes in order to remain creative and alive - "like, not immediately burying myself in work, which had been my strategy for coping with life for 15 years, but to feel okay about myself first."
His self-esteem received an unexpected boost when Johnny Cash covered his nakedly honest anthem of addiction, Hurt. Released shortly before Cash's death in 2003, the track came to be seen as a poignant epitaph to the country singer's troubled life.
In January 2004, Reznor moved from his old adopted home of New Orleans to California, and there consulted Cash's latterday producer Rick Rubin on how to go about making records so he didn't almost kill himself every time. Within nine months - an unprecedentedly brief period by Reznor's standards - he'd completed With Teeth, which was released a couple of months ago.
Neutral observers might suggest that it sounds much like previous Nine Inch Nails albums, full of angst and anger, only with more concise and structured songs.
"It's not happy, don't worry," Reznor confirms with satisfaction.
"Everything isn't fixed, but there's a functional human being at the helm, for a change. There was a time when I would draw on depression and the romantic notion of the dark side as an inspiration - how low can I go? I thought I'd reached the bottom a few times, but then I'd realise there was another 30 floors of despair below that."
His clear, blue eyes shoot an emphatic look across the table at me. "And I have no desire to return to that."
I don't know how I missed this thread.
I think Trent Reznor is the most talented musician in the world.. and I thought this record was the worst he's ever made... by far. It was a terrible disappointment. First, it's not nearly as rich in sound as his previous albums were. Second, there is no energy the way he had it in all previous albums - there just isn't. The single is a total dance track - it actually hurts to see mrs. faust jump around the living room to it like she's at a night club. Third, THE LYRICS, come on people, the lyrics SUCK - they are not even near what Trent has made, and he has written some of the most moving lyrics ever. The only two redeeming songs on this half-***ed record are Sunspots and Every day. I've listened to the album about a hundred times, and now I put it away. Maybe I'll pick it up again later.
What ticks me off most is how all the media is trying to dumb down Trent's work. Well, thank you, now we got what they wanted. They all kept saying that the Fragile was too ambitious, too many tracks, too many instrumentals, in other words the record was TOO GOOD for the ******** general public. I thought The Fragile was absolutely brilliant - a classic on par with The Wall. This record is a cop-out. It's something I wouldn't expect from Trent even after one year after the Fragile, let alone a five year break.[/end of rant]
I think Trent Reznor is the most talented musician in the world.. and I thought this record was the worst he's ever made... by far. It was a terrible disappointment. First, it's not nearly as rich in sound as his previous albums were. Second, there is no energy the way he had it in all previous albums - there just isn't. The single is a total dance track - it actually hurts to see mrs. faust jump around the living room to it like she's at a night club. Third, THE LYRICS, come on people, the lyrics SUCK - they are not even near what Trent has made, and he has written some of the most moving lyrics ever. The only two redeeming songs on this half-***ed record are Sunspots and Every day. I've listened to the album about a hundred times, and now I put it away. Maybe I'll pick it up again later.
What ticks me off most is how all the media is trying to dumb down Trent's work. Well, thank you, now we got what they wanted. They all kept saying that the Fragile was too ambitious, too many tracks, too many instrumentals, in other words the record was TOO GOOD for the ******** general public. I thought The Fragile was absolutely brilliant - a classic on par with The Wall. This record is a cop-out. It's something I wouldn't expect from Trent even after one year after the Fragile, let alone a five year break.[/end of rant]
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faust dear...
did you read the interview i posted?
so you prefer trent to be miserable and suicidal just so you can have some 'moving lyrics'...?...
personally...
i feel fortunate to have the songs and videos that he's created and am quite happy for him that he has escaped his drug problem and is in a better state of mind...
i don't think he needs to be miserably depressed just to satisfy his miserably depressed fans...(not directed at you faust, dear...
)
life is simply to short for that..imho...
yay trent...glad you're feeling better now...
did you read the interview i posted?
so you prefer trent to be miserable and suicidal just so you can have some 'moving lyrics'...?...
personally...
i feel fortunate to have the songs and videos that he's created and am quite happy for him that he has escaped his drug problem and is in a better state of mind...
i don't think he needs to be miserably depressed just to satisfy his miserably depressed fans...(not directed at you faust, dear...
)life is simply to short for that..imho...
yay trent...glad you're feeling better now...
softgrey said:faust dear...
did you read the interview i posted?
so you prefer trent to be miserable and suicidal just so you can have some 'moving lyrics'...?...
personally...
i feel fortunate to have the songs and videos that he's created and am quite happy for him that he has escaped his drug problem and is in a better state of mind...
i don't think he needs to be miserably depressed just to satisfy his miserably depressed fans...(not directed at you faust, dear...
life is simply to short for that..imho...
yay trent...glad you're feeling better now...
i don't know why in the world would you draw such conlusions
.softie, i've read about a 100 interviews with Trent, going back as far as 1989 - you didn't post anything new for me, they all sound the same since With Teeth came out. i can tell you every line of thought, mood, and philosophy that underlined each of Trent's record. i didn't have NIN logo in my avatar for a few years here for nothing. clean, happy Trent - well, I couldn't be happier for him. the only thing is, that's EXACTLY what he said when the fragile came out 5 years ago, and the fragile is a really beautiful album and it's not destructive at all and is infinitely better than this. research the fragile - the entire theme of the album is light and organic. so Trent's depression has nothing to do with it. he was just really upset when the fragile bombed - hence this simple attempt.
i don't know why other people listen to Trent's music, maybe they like for someone to commiserate with them. not me - i just look for depth and beauty - and there is not much of it in With Teeth. there is still a glimpse of Trent's genius here and there, naturally, but it's not a record on a high level that i expect from such a big talent.
all this rehab talk smacks of PR, I'm sorry to say that. how come i've never heard of it before With Teeth came out? maybe i missed something.
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of course you are entitled to your point of view faust..
i don't know, because this is the only interview i've seen since the new album...
but i think that the change in his appearance and his music is pretty clear to the naked eye..i don't think it's PR...
maybe you didn't hear about it because it's nobody's business if someone goes into rehab...maybe some things are still 'private' in this world and it isn't necessary to hold a press conference every time one goes to see a doctor or a shrink...
like the osbournes...
...
THAT would be PR...
i imagine you're hearing about it now because he's giving interviews now related to the new album and tour...and it's relevant so it's being discussed...
i think a lot of artists create beautiful things out of sheer misery and pain...
i just don't think one can survive forever living in that kind of agony..
you become too self-destructive and eventually spiral out of control...
it's pretty common i think...you see it over and over...
i'm just glad that trent looks good and i think the record sounds good too...
even if it's not the same as his previous ones...
i think one's mental and physical health is more important than selling records...
that's all...
i don't know, because this is the only interview i've seen since the new album...
but i think that the change in his appearance and his music is pretty clear to the naked eye..i don't think it's PR...
maybe you didn't hear about it because it's nobody's business if someone goes into rehab...maybe some things are still 'private' in this world and it isn't necessary to hold a press conference every time one goes to see a doctor or a shrink...
like the osbournes...
...THAT would be PR...
i imagine you're hearing about it now because he's giving interviews now related to the new album and tour...and it's relevant so it's being discussed...
i think a lot of artists create beautiful things out of sheer misery and pain...
i just don't think one can survive forever living in that kind of agony..
you become too self-destructive and eventually spiral out of control...
it's pretty common i think...you see it over and over...
i'm just glad that trent looks good and i think the record sounds good too...
even if it's not the same as his previous ones...
i think one's mental and physical health is more important than selling records...
that's all...
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