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Sabato De Sarno - Designer

His vision of the brand so far has been so inconsistent.
- First released image of Daria in a pool in LA - Summery fresh, glam but understated
- "Show Me Love" by Robin S. as show invitation - Soul diva house pop record
- Show soundtrack by Mark Ronson with voices of Romy and Lykke Li
- "Ancora" zine and exhibition with Stefano Collicelli Cagol features works from Lucio fontana other works and exhibits works from Milano art graduates
- Casting of the show was very young
- The clothes feels very minimal and millennial with similar looks from Miu Miu, Celine and Prada - Hoodies and very street.
- Biggest stars in attendance was Julia Roberts and Ryan Gosling.

I feel like he's really trying to tick so many boxes but at the end it feels flat
 
An interesting bit from him to Cathy Horyn...

De Sarno’s fairly safe collection will surely disappoint people. Indeed, the knives were out by dinner time.

“I was hoping for more,” an editor told me. “No ideas,” someone else said. De Sarno has the unfortunate problem of following Alessandro Michele, who, having worked at the house for years, in the design studio, knew its symbols and culture cold and then turned everything on its head. Michele, who is rumored to be heading to an LVMH brand, also anticipated the new sensibilities about gender and beauty diversity, even though his ideas began to wear thin as the world caught up to him (and in some ways surpassed him). De Sarno arrives at Gucci at a seemingly less creative time in fashion, and when consensus — the opinions of bosses, social media critics, the buying public — has become a nightmare, closing down freedom.

But De Sarno understands this, it seems. He is 40, but wiser and more sanguine than his years. A native of a small town near Naples, he began his career as a pattern-maker at Prada, and then spent 14 years at Valentino, where he was eventually the director of men’s and women’s design. A few days before his show, in the prep studio at Gucci headquarters, with his speckled dachshund Luce in her bed under a table of handbags and GG belts, he told me, “People will maybe say these things are boring in fashion but not for me. Maybe they don’t see the details on the runway. Honestly, I don’t care.” He smiled and then continued, “I don’t want to impress. I want to do what I like.”

De Sarno has invested his time in the sartorial ingredients of design, in the impeccable shape and finishing of his tailored jackets and coats, in the construction of the sleeves of a cotton-and-silk pullover so that they retain their form, and in a stunning black sleeveless wool coat, shown with boy shorts, that is double-faced, for a smooth interior finish — and he’s right, nobody will see these details on a runway. Or, for that matter, on Instagram. On the other hand, the cut and shape of his jackets are unmistakably Gucci, not Saint Laurent or Chanel or McQueen, or any other high-fashion brand with a distinct silhouette. That’s one of De Sarno’s aims: “I want people to recognize Gucci because of the shape.”

more at the source: Everybody is a Critic
 
are we supposed to be impressed by his double-faced fabric? you can buy that at arket as well
and for the knit he describes: he probably added a bit of lycra in there, what a revolution!

it sounds like he just has no clue whatsoever
 
Bernstein Downgrades Kering Based on ‘Classic’ Gucci Show, M&A, Management Changes
“We did not see a ‘big bang’ during Sabato De Sarno’s debut catwalk show,” wrote Bernstein’s Luca Solca, who has downgraded Kering's shares and growth projections for Gucci.

BY SAMANTHA CONTI / OCTOBER 4, 2023, 11:53AM

LONDON — October is bringing more tricks than treats to the big luxury goods groups, two of which have seen their stocks downgraded by industry analysts. On Wednesday, Bernstein’s Luca Solca downgraded Kering shares to a “market perform” rating from an “outperform” one based on Sabato De Sarno’s Gucci debut; recent M&A activity, and a ...
WWD
 
An interesting bit from him to Cathy Horyn...



more at the source: Everybody is a Critic

An ambitious intent, but probably the last time a designer was instantly recognizable for a cut and synonymous for a specific silhouette was when Hedi Slimane launched Dior Homme more than 20 years ago (with the gracious help of Karl Lagerfeld, who with his drastic weight loss, became the best sales person of Hedi's style).

I'm not sure Sabato de Sarno's point of view (based on his first show), showed such a strict focus, nor does the significantly larger competition in womenswear help to achieve such an iconic status for something as subtle as cut and proportion - Especially on the scale of commerciality as Gucci, which has to cater to a very large demographic of tastes and markets.
 
^^Full article:
Bernstein Downgrades Kering Based on ‘Classic’ Gucci Show, M&A, Management Changes
“We did not see a ‘big bang’ during Sabato De Sarno’s debut catwalk show,” wrote Bernstein’s Luca Solca, who has downgraded Kering's shares and growth projections for Gucci.

By SAMANTHA CONTI
OCTOBER 4, 2023, 11:53AM

LONDON
— October is bringing more tricks than treats to the big luxury goods groups, two of which have seen their stocks downgraded by industry analysts.

On Wednesday, Bernstein’s Luca Solca downgraded Kering shares to a “market perform” rating from an “outperform” one based on Sabato De Sarno’s Gucci debut; recent M&A activity, and a flurry of management and creative changes at the French group.

Solca reduced Kering’s share price target to 492 euros from 582 euros, declaring there was “no big bang” in Milan. In short, Bernstein’s team didn’t see enough on Gucci’s spring 2024 catwalk to signal a “fast and material Gucci reacceleration.”

Bernstein also downgraded Gucci’s full-year 2024 growth expectations to 2 percent from 6 percent.

Kering shares were broadly flat, closing at 421 euros in trading on Wednesday.

Bernstein published its report 48 hours after RBC Capital Markets downgraded Compagnie Financèire Richemont’s share price target to 130 Swiss francs from 170 Swiss francs, based on new, and lower, earnings estimates and “moderating” luxury sector trends.

By contrast, both RBC Capital Markets and Bernstein kept their ratings of LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton at “outperform.”

In Wednesday’s report, Solca wrote that Bernstein conducted a panel to discuss Gucci’s latest runway show, “and our speakers agreed that De Sarno’s shift to classic makes the collection potentially more commercial.”

“But it also pitches Gucci against more credible incumbents,” such as Prada, Chanel, Dior, The Row and Brunello Cucinelli, he wrote, opining that Gucci only thrives “when it’s over the top.”

Solca noted that the two retailers on Bernstein’s panel “are not going to buy more, and possibly less, than before,” and added that a “softer consumer demand environment in [fiscal 2024] could further exacerbate Gucci’s performance issues. Consumers cut their shopping lists in a slowdown, and Gucci is still in transition. The Kering CEO [François-Henri Pinault] said himself that it will take time for Gucci to find its new footing.”

Solca said senior management changes at Gucci, and at the helm of Kering, “can only add to the lead time” of a turnaround, and there is a real risk that Gucci’s sales growth moves into low-single-digit territory.

Kering’s recent mergers and acquisitions activity, he said, also adds to the crowded senior management agenda.

“The acquisition of Creed and the establishment of the Kering beauty platform seems ambitious. The acquisition of Valentino from Mayhoola adds a new aesthetic turnaround challenge,” he wrote.

It has been a whirlwind year for Kering, which on Tuesday named Sean McGirr creative director of Alexander McQueen, succeeding Sarah Burton, its only female creative head, prompting criticism on social media about its lack of diversity at the group’s designer stable.

Kering had revealed on Sept. 11 that it was parting ways with Burton, who’d been with the brand for 26 years, but did not say why.

As reported, the luxury group has been looking to reshape itself as a dynamic player in an ever-more competitive space and seek new avenues of growth as sales momentum fades at its flagship brand Gucci, as well as at Saint Laurent, Bottega Veneta and Balenciaga.

Over the summer Kering snatched up Creed for a reported $3.8 billion and followed up the deal a few weeks later, agreeing to buy 30 percent of Valentino for 1.7 billion euros. It has an option to take full control of the Italian brand by 2028.

Kering has also been under pressure from activist investors to make a transformational acquisition that would put it on a more equal footing with rival LVMH and make it less reliant on Gucci, which accounted for 67 percent of the group’s operating profit last year.

Kering also had a major management reshuffle, granting wider powers to Saint Laurent chief executive officer Francesca Bellettini. Those changes came against the backdrop of Kering’s weak performance in the second quarter that saw Gucci miss market expectations.

Last month, Solca told WWD he was surprised that Kering would switch creative gears at McQueen at such a busy time.

“It is remarkable that Kering is opening yet another front with the change of creative directors at Alexander McQueen. This only adds to the fish to fry — which were already very abundant,” he said.

In Wednesday’s report, Solca said recent senior management changes and M&A moves at Kering have increased the “risk profile” of the group. “Most importantly, we did not see a ‘big bang’ during Sabato’s debut catwalk, which is the straw that broke the camel’s back.”

The report also outlines some of the main points raised by Bernstein’s panel about the Gucci spring 2024 show.

Solca said panelists agreed that De Sarno’s Gucci “definitely marks a welcome inflection relative to what we had seen with [his predecessor] Alessandro Michele. De Sarno has come to the catwalk with a coherent project, avoiding the trap of trying to please everyone with different things — unlike Riccardo Tisci had done at Burberry.”

The panel said Gucci’s shift to “bon chic, bon genre” fashion makes the collection more commercial, “but there doesn’t appear to be enough originality for a new Gucci ‘dream,’ and the catwalk show looks more like a pre-collection in its being sober and down to earth.”

Solca has packed the report with graphs, charts, photographs and detailed analysis of social-media reaction to Gucci’s show from China’s Little Red Book platform.

One chart shows a spike in Kering’s share price between 2016 and 2021, due to Michele’s “more is more” approach at Gucci, while a photo compilation sets out to prove that De Sarno should work harder on accessories.

“We do not see new hero bags from the show. The Jackie bag and the Bamboo bag have not seen much innovation,” the report stated.

It also pointed out that “softer” consumer demand could further exacerbate performance issues at Gucci.

“We have seen multiple times that consumers putting a foot on the brake [cuts] the number of brands on their shopping list, and [concentrates] their luxury goods budget on ‘must-have’ brands,” wrote Solca, arguing that the other Kering brands “don’t seem to have the ability to offset a continuing, subdued performance from Gucci.”

He also cast doubt on the speed with which Gucci can execute a turnaround, given all of the management changes.

“We would think that the departure of Marco Bizzarri — and of several senior executives below him — is at the very least going to increase the amount of time the Gucci revival will take. The new CEO and the new executives will have to find their feet before reaching full effectiveness.

“A sprint execution of the Gucci turnaround — like the one we had seen in 2016 — seems off the menu. In the absence of an explosive creative reinvention — for which we had potentially been waiting for — this element adds to balance the risk reward in Kering despite the very convenient backstop of a low valuation level, both in absolute terms and relative to other names in the sector,” Solca concluded.
Source: WWD
 
^ Ouch. I'd be very curious to get such insight on the other Kering brands. How are Bottega, Balenciaga really doing? Such a slap in the face for Kering.

Perhaps we are witnessing is the early stages of a new era when creativity is back front and center? Because everyone is sick of how powerful these marketing / product merchandising people have been in those conglomerates. Now, it seems that customers might feel tired too... and expect more than a sneaker or a bland bag...
 
Absolutely an interesting read! I think much of the success of the new Gucci will also depend on the pricing strategy. With the crazy inflated prices for almost all luxury brands, there's definitely room for more accessible priced 'luxury'. And Sabato's collection didn't exactly look like it should be priced at a that top end level. So I think if Gucci can be realistic in their prices, it may not be a complete commercial disaster. It's also who they aspire to attract as clients...


Apart from that, I agree with the analysts that the whole desirability aspect was completely missing in this collection, especially in the shoe and bag department...
 
The current direction i think will be giving them more sales in the long run than the past direction. It was relying too much on hype and it was inevitable to plateau or to fall down. I do think there is a market and an opening for the young, sexy, luxurious women that Sabato had in mind. Just don't know how he will explore it further without being a bore.
 
^ Ouch. I'd be very curious to get such insight on the other Kering brands. How are Bottega, Balenciaga really doing? Such a slap in the face for Kering.

Perhaps we are witnessing is the early stages of a new era when creativity is back front and center? Because everyone is sick of how powerful these marketing / product merchandising people have been in those conglomerates. Now, it seems that customers might feel tired too... and expect more than a sneaker or a bland bag...
Looking at Kering's "First Half 2023 Report":
Bottega Veneta is doing well. Since the shift back to more classical products, sales have slowed a bit, but they seem to be more consistent throughout the company (bless those leather jeans). They've also recently opened a boutique on Avenue Montaigne under Blazy's direction, which means that he's probably here to stay a while.

Balenciaga, Alexander McQueen and Brioni are grouped together, but the percentage numbers are in the negatives. Kering seems to doing a cleanup of their underperforming houses, starting with their cash cow, Gucci. AMcQ is next and they'll probably start reworking Balenciaga and Brioni in the next 2 to 3 years.

Absolutely an interesting read! I think much of the success of the new Gucci will also depend on the pricing strategy. With the crazy inflated prices for almost all luxury brands, there's definitely room for more accessible priced 'luxury'. And Sabato's collection didn't exactly look like it should be priced at a that top end level. So I think if Gucci can be realistic in their prices, it may not be a complete commercial disaster. It's also who they aspire to attract as clients...

Apart from that, I agree with the analysts that the whole desirability aspect was completely missing in this collection, especially in the shoe and bag department...
I think that another issue with Gucci, is that it shouldn't be the most expensive brand on Kering's portfolio. Bottega Veneta was a leather workshop, Saint Laurent and Balenciaga were couture houses, Alexander McQueen is a demi-couture house.

It's would be smart if Gucci was positioned to sit near the middle of Kering's price hierarchy. Gucci could probably do well sitting in the €1'000 to €3'000 range. It's a step up from the American accessible luxury brands, but it's much more accessible than Louis Vuitton, Hermès and Chanel. It would also be a good idea to formally introduce Courrèges into the Kering portfolio. The price hierarchy could look somewhat like this:
Bottega Veneta

Balenciaga/Saint Laurent

Alexander McQueen

Gucci

Brioni

Courrèges​
 
Always thought they're trying to position Gucci as their top end brand either a bit above or a bit lower than Bottega. That said, Burton for Brioni.
 
^ Ouch. I'd be very curious to get such insight on the other Kering brands. How are Bottega, Balenciaga really doing? Such a slap in the face for Kering.

Perhaps we are witnessing is the early stages of a new era when creativity is back front and center? Because everyone is sick of how powerful these marketing / product merchandising people have been in those conglomerates. Now, it seems that customers might feel tired too... and expect more than a sneaker or a bland bag...
Balenciaga sells like crazy. Bottega not as much as its been praised by fastcritics
 
His vision of the brand so far has been so inconsistent.
- First released image of Daria in a pool in LA - Summery fresh, glam but understated
- "Show Me Love" by Robin S. as show invitation - Soul diva house pop record
- Show soundtrack by Mark Ronson with voices of Romy and Lykke Li
- "Ancora" zine and exhibition with Stefano Collicelli Cagol features works from Lucio fontana other works and exhibits works from Milano art graduates
- Casting of the show was very young
- The clothes feels very minimal and millennial with similar looks from Miu Miu, Celine and Prada - Hoodies and very street.
- Biggest stars in attendance was Julia Roberts and Ryan Gosling.

I feel like he's really trying to tick so many boxes but at the end it feels flat
I agree wholeheartedly. Visited their new New Bond Street flagship (delivered 3 weeks before the show but definitely designed under the direction of De Sarno), their retail concept is pretty minimalist too and the collection will fit adequately in it.
The concept of a store-inside-an-art-gallery is already well used, and has been done much better (The Row in London or NY). The art curation isn’t great too.
But flatness of the experience aside, my main issue is that Gucci has never been an «artsy » brand, nor their customers. And the artsy customers already have plenty of other choices. And they won’t like, or will be confused, by the mixed signals : Fontanas on the wall but Kendall Jenner in the campaigns ?
It’s like they are trying to cater to everyone’s tastes at once, losing a lot of identity on the way.
 
Sabato won't last at Gucci with this, his paper thin vision of early 2000s outlet mall bootie shorts, onesies and saggy jeans is too banal and boring. Also relying on Kendal Jenner to prop the brand up is sad.The paid reviews and gas lighting to act like this was a good show clearly fell flat.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. Visited their new New Bond Street flagship (delivered 3 weeks before the show but definitely designed under the direction of De Sarno), their retail concept is pretty minimalist too and the collection will fit adequately in it.
The concept of a store-inside-an-art-gallery is already well used, and has been done much better (The Row in London or NY). The art curation isn’t great too.
But flatness of the experience aside, my main issue is that Gucci has never been an «artsy » brand, nor their customers. And the artsy customers already have plenty of other choices. And they won’t like, or will be confused, by the mixed signals : Fontanas on the wall but Kendall Jenner in the campaigns ?
It’s like they are trying to cater to everyone’s tastes at once, losing a lot of identity on the way.
Amen.
I love Sabato he truly is a very Nice Guy, hard to find in fashion, And a good designer, although is DNA is menswear and I think he needs support for womenswear.
I feel that he is quite lost here, his personal references are very various and I feel that there is personal truth in what he shows, but it just doesn’t conveys into a solid identity.
I have faith in him because he is really talented and he is just too nice and I don’t want him to fail… but what a heavy difficult heritage to carry in this terribly uninspiring climate.
Good luck to you!
 
well i hope he is given a chance to find his footing at the house. it is gucci anyway, it should sell itself for a few more seasons until he has a hit which i think he will soon enough.
 
Sabato should do Chloe , at best. Although Bally has had a great season!!!
 

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