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Schiaparelli Haute Couture S/S 2023 Paris

What about the "homeless" collection he followed it with? Or the religious themed collection after the homeless one? The African inspired debut collection in '97? The native Americans of '98? The '03 geishas? Galliano would be absolutely torn to shreds is the Dior timeline was shifted 15-20 years forward.
of course, lest we forget the iconic diorient express... our john would be massacred for that. :rolleyes:

also, thanks for reminding me about les clochards. it always ranked extremely high in my list of favourite dior-galliano collections. just so provocative, boundary-pushing and technically brilliant on every level. all things that daniel’s schiaparelli will never be.

at least we have the memories. :cry:
 
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What about the "homeless" collection he followed it with? Or the religious themed collection after the homeless one? The African inspired debut collection in '97? The native Americans of '98? The '03 geishas? Galliano would be absolutely torn to shreds is the Dior timeline was shifted 15-20 years forward.

Not sure how present the topic is in the news and how strongly people are protesting where you live, but here in Germany, the outlook of a very real climate crisis and a decreasing bio diversity has lead to some of the most militant protests as of late and has sensitized a large part of the population to decrease unnecessary consumption. A brand like Chanel would have thought twice about flying in a piece of a glacier as a scenery for the assured PR backlash it would have caused today, to make a more appropriate comparison than a designer taking inspiration from foreign cultural dress.
 
that's awful if the animal heads are real, but they look more beautiful than the actual models, specially the gorgeous wolf next to Naomi and her very fake looking wig. I guess fur is truly worn by beautiful animals and ugly people like the slogan used to say.

Someone remarked that this had nothing to do with Schiaparelli, true but the same can be said of any fashion house today specially Balenciaga.
Silk, resin and foam.
 
Is the lion fake? Please don't tell me it's taxidermied. :sick:
In South Africa they are now bred and let out into the wild to be mercilessly hunted down as trophies.

Edit: See it's artificial. Still, in bad taste.

Anyway, I don't get the Roseberry hype.
 
Olivier sounds very "American" - like Vanessa Friedman or Nicole Phelps when they have one of those "call-out" urges to reinforce their Robin Hood image and show the world just how pure they are. It seems that endless lecturing & cheap public performances seem to arouse him quite a while (at least as of 2018).
Everything he does/says lately is built on deception, fraud and narcissism that he cannot get rid of. No movement from him.

at least Vanessa and Nicole are in fact American. He's just a hypocrite and it looks extra funny because of his past (I'm fine with artistic nudes but let's be real about what the Purple/OZ/Terry Richardson strain of fashion was up to in the 00s).

Schiaparelli got their eyeballs this couture season thanks to the fake fauna so good for their EMV I suppose, I appreciate the craft that went into making a realistic lion head but this feels like Roseberry trying to do at Schiaparelli what Jonathan Anderson did with the anthurium etc. dresses at Loewe S/S 2023, make a big eye-catching top with a 'weird' thing on it and get lots of eyeballs (and I appreciate the anthurium dresses more). Conceptually similar if not visually so, but stands out a bit considering how recent that was.
 
Didn't quite get what you meant in the first sentence. They are American-that's why I'm referring to these two classy ladies.

You are not necessarily a hypocrite because there has been a turning point in your work and maybe you simply prefer a more conservative approach to things or see things differently with the shift of time. But being constantly trapped in double standards, constantly lecturing others (as in his case) in the vast majority of cases falls into the category of hypocrisy. What is particularly repulsive about all these "call-out" posts is their arrogance and manipulation and the basic assumption that you are either too stupid to see the "bigger picture"- and that's where they jump in, to enlighten you about the whole matter (because my god, they know it all) or if that not applicable you are just "insensitive or simply elitist" that you absolutely do not care. And worst of all is the disgustingly obvious insincerity- I mean wasn't there a plush Balenciaga teddy bear (not that long ago), who spread panic across the community. If he really wanted to break a barrier that actually would feel newsworthy, he just needed to save a piece of his cheap poetry for Balenciaga as well. Then this Schiaparelli thing would seem far more sincere. But Nooooo- In this relentless search to try to fit into wider cultural narratives he is just another fraud joining the army of those who are grinding their teeth on those who are already standing on shaky grounds. (Unless we are played out, and this is a nicely coordinated arrangement between the two men for a little bit of media attention).

The Schiaparelli guy is in the unenviable position of not being able to give vent to his creativity like Nicolas, because obviously the bags (and it seems the fragrances) are a business in themselves, nor does he have the marketing machine of someone from Kering, but obviously that he has to DO SOMETHING with what he has. The collection doesn't speak for itself, it leaves quite a conflicted feeling because some parts could pass as good, but for the most part it's a complete boredom interrupted by the sight of animal heads. And only for those animal heads he will probably have a short momentum, and maybe our beloved "watchdogs" should let him have it, without their ahhh so important opinions.
 
Didn't quite get what you meant in the first sentence. They are American-that's why I'm referring to these two classy ladies.

You are not necessarily a hypocrite because there has been a turning point in your work and maybe you simply prefer a more conservative approach to things or see things differently with the shift of time. But being constantly trapped in double standards, constantly lecturing others (as in his case) in the vast majority of cases falls into the category of hypocrisy. What is particularly repulsive about all these "call-out" posts is their arrogance and manipulation and the basic assumption that you are either too stupid to see the "bigger picture"- and that's where they jump in, to enlighten you about the whole matter (because my god, they know it all) or if that not applicable you are just "insensitive or simply elitist" that you absolutely do not care. And worst of all is the disgustingly obvious insincerity- I mean wasn't there a plush Balenciaga teddy bear (not that long ago), who spread panic across the community. If he really wanted to break a barrier that actually would feel newsworthy, he just needed to save a piece of his cheap poetry for Balenciaga as well. Then this Schiaparelli thing would seem far more sincere. But Nooooo- In this relentless search to try to fit into wider cultural narratives he is just another fraud joining the army of those who are grinding their teeth on those who are already standing on shaky grounds. (Unless we are played out, and this is a nicely coordinated arrangement between the two men for a little bit of media attention).

The Schiaparelli guy is in the unenviable position of not being able to give vent to his creativity like Nicolas, because obviously the bags (and it seems the fragrances) are a business in themselves, nor does he have the marketing machine of someone from Kering, but obviously that he has to DO SOMETHING with what he has. The collection doesn't speak for itself, it leaves quite a conflicted feeling because some parts could pass as good, but for the most part it's a complete boredom interrupted by the sight of animal heads. And only for those animal heads he will probably have a short momentum, and maybe our beloved "watchdogs" should let him have it, without their ahhh so important opinions.
The most intolerable part of this is that these are the people who cry that "creativity in fashion is dead", while tearing apart any designer that bypasses their increasingly narrowing views of what fashion is allowed to be. In that same vein, they'll never approach a corporate house with this logic, because they know the consequences Kering and LVMH will send their way.
 
The most intolerable part of this is that these are the people who cry that "creativity in fashion is dead", while tearing apart any designer that bypasses their increasingly narrowing views of what fashion is allowed to be. In that same vein, they'll never approach a corporate house with this logic, because they know the consequences Kering and LVMH will send their way.
First sentence-Absolutely. I had the first sentence you wrote in mind, but then I stopped, because I felt could go forever on hehehe
 
Its ugly but nothing worth having clutched pearls about lol, the last time this brand got this level of publicity was probably in the 1940s lol. Shock value works well for a brand that no Millennial and Gen Zer knew about before. These will be a popular inspiration for Halloween costumes this Fall.

That's what kind of makes me sad and cynic. When you invite Kylie Jenner to your show and you let her wear a (well made fake) giant lion's head on her dress, you kind of know the purpose of it all. Although I applaud them for seating her next to Marisa Berenson which was kind or ironic maybe.
So yes it had people talking for a few minutes on the social media. Great! How many of them are going to order a couture piece from your surely thriving couture house?
 
I just watched a video about Daniel Roseberry and... I even feel bad saying this, but he is so... like why are you even doing this? He is a very talented illustrator but theres nothing in that little noggin of his about fashion. Even an interest? He comes off as a puppet some rich guy is using to create a bit of buzz for masses to consume and forget about in a couple minutes. It's still so weird seeing this brand pop up out of nowhere and being placed in the mainstream.
 
Daniel Roseberry on the faux-taxidermy controversy:
EXCLUSIVE: Daniel Roseberry Addresses Animal Head Controversy Ahead of Schiaparelli Ready-to-wear Runway Debut
"We're not trying to break the internet with this collection," the designer said ahead of Thursday's show.


By JOELLE DIDERICH
MARCH 1, 2023, 1:00AM


PARIS — One month after the controversy over its haute couture collection featuring replicas of animal heads, Schiaparelli is back in the spotlight.

The heritage house on Thursday will stage the first runway show for its ready-to-wear collection during Paris Fashion Week, marking another milestone in its revival since it was acquired by Italian entrepreneur Diego Della Valle in 2012.

Central to its current growth trajectory is creative director Daniel Roseberry, who has ignited the brand with his red-carpet designs for the likes of Beyoncé, Lady Gaga and Bella Hadid. Now he’s hoping to turbocharge its ready-to-wear and accessories business, capitalizing on Schiaparelli’s retail expansion, including the opening of a shop-in-shop at Harrods in London.

“This isn’t show one, this is show zero. It’s like the foundation,” he told WWD in an exclusive interview at the brand’s headquarters on Place Vendôme in Paris. “I really want people to leave knowing what the Schiaparelli wardrobe is and wanting it all.”

Since his appointment in 2019, the designer has steadily expanded the offering, which now spans tailoring, knitwear, denim, leather and shearling and eveningwear. Schiaparelli is launching production for footwear, with styles including leather ankle boots with its signature gold toe caps, which were previously only available in made-to-order versions.

And it is expanding its thriving handbag line with new styles including the Schiap, which is embossed with stripes resembling measuring tape, in a nod to the house’s signature fragrance Shocking, which launched in 1937 with a bottle shaped like a dressmaker’s mannequin.

“We’ve been building the collection steadily over the past three years, so it feels like a good moment to present something that is deeply chic, hyper exclusive. This isn’t Zara for rich people,” Roseberry said of the lineup, which will be unveiled at 7 p.m. in the gilded reception rooms of the neighboring Hôtel d’Évreux.

Indeed, there are no plans to lower the price points of the collection, which range from 1,750 euros for an intarsia bow sweater, inspired by founder Elsa Schiaparelli’s debut collection in 1927, to 6,900 euros for the ivory jacket with ear-shaped gold hardware worn by Camille Razat in the Netflix series “Emily in Paris” — and can rise to 27,000 euros for an embroidered caftan.

“From our clientele, there’s no desire for something that feels more attainable at this point. I think that people want to feel like they’re getting something extraordinary,” Roseberry said.

Nor does the Texan-born designer plan to tone down his Surrealism-inspired aesthetic. Addressing for the first time the furor triggered by his outfits featuring eerily realistic replicas of a snow leopard, a lion and a wolf, he said the designs, inspired by Dante’s “Inferno,” were meant to be conversation starters.

“I wasn’t surprised by the amount of buzz,” he confessed. “We don’t have a marketing budget, we don’t pay influencers to wear our bags, we don’t advertise, but still there’s an expectation that I have to compete with a $15 billion brand, and I’m gonna play any card that I can to kind of dominate the narrative.”

However, he didn’t anticipate the virulence of the backlash, with critics accusing the house of glamorizing trophy hunting. “I knew the animals were going to get a strong reaction. The amount of hatred and negativity and anger, specifically from people sitting in the cheap seats of Instagram and all that kind of stuff, was a surprise,” Roseberry said.

In the wake of the show, the house rolled out content on social platforms showing how an artist based in Israel sculpted the heads out of foam and resin, before embellishing them with faux fur and hand painting.

Coming on the heels of the controversy over Balenciaga’s holiday campaign featuring children posing alongside handbags shaped like stuffed bears dressed in bondage gear, the incident illustrated the pitfalls facing luxury brands in the social media age — though Roseberry said he and his teams were certain they had done nothing wrong.

“The intention behind it was not to provoke anger, it was to glorify and capture, try and mimic something that beautiful in reality, and so I was emotionally OK, because I knew that the intention behind it was pure. And it’s so funny, the artist who made them is a vegan. Like, some people got it so wrong,” he mused.

Nonetheless, it made him aware that there is now a global audience for his work.

“Couture used to be something that was so rarefied and presented to an extremely select few people who were experts in clothing and were there for the art of it. And now couture is something that is presented on the mass level of everything else and it’s impossible to control the narrative from the people who are sitting in the cheap seats who have a huge megaphone now,” Roseberry said.

“So many people reached out after that, mega famous people who have dealt with their fair share of that kind of hatred and anger, to just say, ‘You did nothing wrong. This is going to happen anytime that you put something beautiful and strong out into the world.’ And it was really encouraging on that level,” he added.

He’s confident that the uproar will have no lasting negative impact, although the house is consciously avoiding any extreme statements for the ready-to-wear show.

“We’re not trying to break the internet with this collection. It’s more a collection for clients, inspired by the clients, and I want there to be something very cozy and natural about it too, and very sensual. It’s not as much of a performance as the couture,” Roseberry explained.

Grounded in black, it will feature everything from a ruched evening gown with a keyhole detail at the waist to intarsia knitwear with satin bone accents at the ribs, and oversize puffer jackets adorned with the brand’s signature enameled bijou buttons. Tailoring includes a supremely chic black jacket with a curved hem that is another spinoff of an archival design.

“It was really about going back to the roots of the way that Elsa dressed herself,” he said, noting that he was inspired by an image of the designer in a white denim smock. “We want to make sure it doesn’t feel like the sad sister of couture. It really needs to stand on its own, have a different energy to it, like a different vibe that’s a bit more sporty as well, which I’m really into.”

In a cheeky nod to the spring couture show, he’s also included a chubby animal print coat made with tufts of silk thread.

Roseberry said his resolve was strengthened by the documentary series “Kingdom of Dreams,” which describes how French luxury magnates Bernard Arnault and François Pinault built their empires with the help of talented and occasionally provocative designers such as John Galliano, Alexander McQueen, Marc Jacobs and Tom Ford.

“It was so inspiring for me because those designers in that period, they could do things that were bold, and I know not all of it has aged well and there were controversies that were merited, for sure. But there were big swings taken and I think the risk from something like the animal backlash is that we would start to censor ourselves in advance,” he remarked.

“It left me super charged with a desire to just keep going, keep pushing,” Roseberry said of watching the miniseries. “If you create according to purely what you hope won’t be a scandal, I mean, I just — I can’t do that.”
Source: WWD
 
"cheap seats of instagram" mawma... never mind.

points for acknowledging that the silk animal heads were a publicity move (which worked) I suppose, but is a bit rich of him to be disparaging the "cheap seats of instagram" when his iteration of the brand so far has been so specifically oriented to what plays well on a 2D screen/is designed to get social media publicity.
 

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