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*Princesse* said:
My mom knew of a woman who was in her 60's or 70's who had only cleaned her face twice a day with Kiss My Face soap her entire adult life, and supossedly, she had the best skin my mother had ever seen on a woman that age. Of course, maybe the woman just had incredible skin genes, or maybe it was her regiman. I've heard to many different stories, I don't know what to believe anymore.

Kiss My Face has only been in existance since the 1980s. That means the earliest this person would've started using it was when she was 40. By the time you're 40, all the stuff you've done to your skin before that will take a toll. The important question is what product did she use in her 20's and 30's. These are the things reponsible for her great skin now.
 
^Perhaps Princesse is using the "Kiss My Face" moniker to describe a basic olive oil soap, which has been in existence for some 4,000 years. It's Greek laundry soap, basically! Same with French Marseillaise soap! Good stuff, nonetheless.
 
mellowdrama said:
^Perhaps Princesse is using the "Kiss My Face" moniker to describe a basic olive oil soap, which has been in existence for some 4,000 years. It's Greek laundry soap, basically! Same with French Marseillaise soap! Good stuff, nonetheless.

I'm sure it's a fine soap produced by Kiss My Face. Of course, calling it laundry soap doesn't make it seem so appealing anymore.

Palmolive soap (palm & olive oil) has been around for at least 100 years. Does anyone wash their face with palmolive?
 
Palmolive, at this point, is just the brand name. It's a detergent surfactant, not saponified palm and olive oils. I have used it to effectively strip color from my hair, however.

Before the chemical era, soap was all we had, and before soap, it was plants like saponaria bulb, or applying oil to your body and scraping it off with the smooth edge of a stone, sweatlodges, saunas, etcetera. As for cremes and balms, American natives used a good coating of bears' fat to protect skin in the winter!

Granted, I like fancy cleansers and cremes, but you're only as old as your telomeres are long. Soap, on or off a rope, won't make them any shorter or longer. If it strips your skin's protective mantle, and if you then live in an extreme hot, dry, sunny, or cold and windy environment, you will damage your skin over time.

Some people age like the subject of a Dorthea Lange portrait of a dustbowl farmer's wife--I believe that sad looking lady was only 28--and others of us manage to age like Lena Horne. Stress, smoking, sun exposure, nutrition, the genetic inheritence of protective pigmentation and skin thickness-all of these things affect skin more than soap.

Cheers!
 

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mellowdrama said:
Palmolive, at this point, is just the brand name. It's a detergent surfactant, not saponified palm and olive oils. I have used it to effectively strip color from my hair, however.

Palmolive is not a detergent surfactant, it is a tallow, coconut oil or palm kernal oil based soap. Here is the list of ingredients from drugstore.com.

Ingredients:

Soap (Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocate, and/or sodium palm kernelate types), Water, Glycerin, Fragrance, Titanium Dioxide, Pentasodium Pentetate, Sodium Chloride, Tetrabutyl Pentarythrityl Hydryoxyhydrocinnamate, D&C Green 5, D&C Yellow 10

;)
And it will certainly help water strip your color. It will also leave a ring around your tub depending on the hardness of your water.
 
mellowdrama said:
Granted, I like fancy cleansers and cremes, but you're only as old as your telomeres are long. Soap, on or off a rope, won't make them any shorter or longer. If it strips your skin's protective mantle, and if you then live in an extreme hot, dry, sunny, or cold and windy environment, you will damage your skin over time.

Some people age like the subject of a Dorthea Lange portrait of a dustbowl farmer's wife--I believe that sad looking lady was only 28--and others of us manage to age like Lena Horne. Stress, smoking, sun exposure, nutrition, the genetic inheritence of protective pigmentation and skin thickness-all of these things affect skin more than soap.

So true. People in Florida have much worse skin than people in Canada. And it's all because of the sun exposure. On some level you are a victim of your genetics. What you wash with has only a minimal effect.
 
thebeautybrains said:
Palmolive is not a detergent surfactant, it is a tallow, coconut oil or palm kernal oil based soap. Here is the list of ingredients from drugstore.com.

Ingredients:

Soap (Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocate, and/or sodium palm kernelate types), Water, Glycerin, Fragrance, Titanium Dioxide, Pentasodium Pentetate, Sodium Chloride, Tetrabutyl Pentarythrityl Hydryoxyhydrocinnamate, D&C Green 5, D&C Yellow 10

;)
And it will certainly help water strip your color. It will also leave a ring around your tub depending on the hardness of your water.

Well, fancy that. I must have the newfangled version!:flower: Tallow is beefat, yum!
 
I gotta admit the lazier I am about my skin, the better it gets.
I take out my makeup, I wash with cethapil, rinse it lightly, and then wear some eye cream in the nights, no moisturizer, and it looks better than ever. In the morning I look my very best, BEFORE any moisturisation.

Sometimes I cannot resist and wash my face in the shower, and afterwards (I gotta admit) it just looks worse than the state it was when I woke up. If I wash or moisturize, I "ruin" the calmness I gain in the nights, and skin reacts with irritation, redness, etc.

It´s summer here, so you need less moisturizing.

But yet, it feels wrong to use only cethapil in the nights (no toner, no scrub), but it works.
 
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if soap and water works for you then stick with it.
but i personally believe you need a bit of protection during the day. like moisturizer or sunblock. try using stuff meant for sensitive skin or organic products. and you don't really need anything during the night, let the skin breathe. good luck!
 
Vanilla_Lush said:
if soap and water works for you then stick with it.
but i personally believe you need a bit of protection during the day. like moisturizer or sunblock.

Sunblock is probably the most important thing to use to protect your skin from developing wrinkles and age spots.
 
bump :)
what do u think, would it be ok to make routine like this -
wash face with dove soap
toner
face cream

Or does this trick work only if using just water and soap and nothing else?
Can I use Dove soap if I have oily skin?
 
^ Of course you can.
But i suggest the green one. I like it, but it dries my skin a little bit which is good for oily skin. ^_^
 
err does thaat big bar of clinique face soap count as soap?
i mean i knows it a soap bar, but i was wondernig if it still counts since its like face soap..
anyways i use that (i got it this summer) and my skin's really soft.. yeah simple is really good, keeps all the skincare stuff from making your skin wonky!.
 
err does thaat big bar of clinique face soap count as soap?
i mean i knows it a soap bar, but i was wondernig if it still counts since its like face soap..
anyways i use that (i got it this summer) and my skin's really soft.. yeah simple is really good, keeps all the skincare stuff from making your skin wonky!.

I guess it's a little bit different, because it's rather cleanser in a form of a soap bar
 
if soap and water works for you then stick with it.
but i personally believe you need a bit of protection during the day. like moisturizer or sunblock. try using stuff meant for sensitive skin or organic products. and you don't really need anything during the night, let the skin breathe. good luck!

Agree about using sun-block (I'm a religious user...and since I've started using suncreen a few years ago there's been a very noticable difference)

Although I disagree about not using anything at night. Especially if you're using soap which can be harsher (depending) than cream cleansers. You'll need some moisterizor at night especially since that's when you skin will absorb it most.
 

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