I just wanted to post again now that we've seen a few snows this winter and I've actually gotten use out of them. I'm sooo happy I bought them. On ice, everything is slippery, it is the nature of ice so you still have to be careful but they are 100x better than any leather or even rubber soled "good looking but not for weather" boots. The tread is serious. And yeah they are a little clunky but so warm. And the lining comes out so you can warm it on the heating vent at home. I don't see these as trendy, they will last me a long time. Just recommending again for anyone who need boots for wintery conditions and spends any amount of time outside. And for those who worry about how they look, just bring another pair of shoes to work or school in your bag. It's not that hard.
