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The Craftmanship of Haute Couture ... The details and how they do it.

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I heard in a NY Times article that couture collections cost a few million dollars to produce at least. Each dress takes about 100 workers to create (embellishments like hand painted patterns and detailed metalwork do use up some manpower) and many many hours of labor. Insane! But I suppose you do get what you pay for.
 
Originally posted by gian@Apr 27th, 2004 - 12:15 am
why would somebody spend a million dollars for an ensemble like this?!

with being practical in a sense, i'd rather buy several pieces from every show for the season, getting all the hot items than waste some huge cash in purchasing something that i would seriously never wear anyway,,,
the customer of the couture does have many (not all) "hot items" from the ready-to-wear. you order ten outfits from kors spring line to keep in your yacht, you snatch up chanel's fall line for the season in paris, you spend a day in armani to keep you outfitted for your weekends on lake como....and you get a couple of day suits and maybe a new gown from the couture.

these people's clothing budgets are larger than most the top two-percent of wage earners....and a lot of times their husbands can write some of this stuff off as business expense.
 
No one ordered that dress.

Only one exists in the world, and it's the one on the runway model in the photo. But the value would've been around that price range. I've seen it in a magazine editorial, and in person, and it is GIGANTIC (it probably weighs 50 pounds because it's about 300 yards or more of fabric) and the craftsmanship is breathtaking imo

That horrible picture does no justice. The ruffles are all held together by drawstrings, so the ruffles can be gathered as full or as loose as you want, and each drawstring pull is gold and has "Dior" engraved onto it...

It really is a breathtaking piece, and I think it's going to be put in the Dior museum in france soon, if it isn't already there..

WHOOOAAAA!! you've seen it?! what do you do in fashion? how did you get access to it?

now, i LIKEEYYY!!!

by the way who's that model? dior show make-up sometimes makes them hard to recognize..

:punk: :clap: :winkiss:
 
these people's clothing budgets are larger than most the top two-percent of wage earners....and a lot of times their husbands can write some of this stuff off as business expense.

hey, i liked that!! some useful information... ;)

looks like i'm starting to get a kick of these couture stuff!
 
Originally posted by gian@Apr 28th, 2004 - 12:01 am

now, i LIKEEYYY!!!

by the way who's that model? dior show make-up sometimes makes them hard to recognize..

:punk: :clap: :winkiss:
The model is Kasia
 
Originally posted by blumarine+Apr 28th, 2004 - 1:58 am--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(blumarine @ Apr 28th, 2004 - 1:58 am)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-gian@Apr 28th, 2004 - 12:01 am

now, i LIKEEYYY!!!

by the way who's that model? dior show make-up sometimes makes them hard to recognize..

:punk: :clap: :winkiss:
The model is Kasia [/b][/quote]
Actually, what has always fascinated me is the model who's actually wearing that creation. Imagine the thoughts that must be running through their head. If they started sweating, or damaged it in any way. And if they were to fall and tear the thing! Also, I'm sure that a lot of the newer models could never, ever afford half of the clothing that they wear. What an odd feeling to be parading this dress that's worth millions while you generally stick to jeans and a tee. And you have to strut that dress as if it's the most natural thing. How when these models appear in couture at events the majority of them look uncomfortable. What a dramatic contrast between the casual, silly pictures backstage and the onstage ubsurdity. It's funny, all these teenage girls wearing outfits that will likely end up on some middle aged impossibly wealthy aristocrat. Sorry for the long, rambling post, I've just been thinking...
 
the same thought has runned all over my head, as well; purple ...
And about being concerned of damaging the dress ... just look at this ...
-From Dior HC SS '03-
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Noticed it? Look at her fingers!
 
oh my god! is that the same dress in the dior show? just curious?!
 
oops! sorry,,, haha! i overlooked the SS'03 above the pic...

peace out!! :flower:
 
The fingers have make up -yellow- paint all over them .. she even stained the clothes ...
 
Process of Haute Couture

i open this thread for all of us to share your knowledge on the process of making haute couture. I'm sure we don't get enough just seeing the collections every season. we don't know everything in detail. i know Chanelgirl's husband is working in Dior couture department in Paris. i hope you can share with us.:heart:

it will be interesting if we come out with pictures and photos of ateliers and of all that processs behind Haute Couture:flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower:

below is little tiny bit from wikipedia

"In France, the designation "haute couture" is protected by law. A certain number of formal criteria (number of employees, participation in fashion shows...) must be met for a fashion house to use the label; a list of eligible houses is made official every year by the French Ministry of Industry. The haute couture houses belong to the professional union, the Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture.
The French term for ready-to-wear (not custom fitted) fashion is prêt-à-porter. Every haute couture house also markets prêt-à-porter collections, which typically deliver a higher return on investment than their custom clothing. In fact, much of the haute couture displayed at fashion shows today is never sold; it is created to enhance the good name of the house. Falling revenues have forced a few couture houses to abandon their less profitable couture division and concentrate solely on the less prestigious prêt-à-porter. These houses are no longer considered haute couture."
 
btw, make this forum where we study the details and art of couture
 
THE GRAND FRENCH HAUTE COUTURE HOUSES
© 2001 Elegant-Lifestyle.com Ltd. All rights reserved.
The Ultimate Indulgence for Today's Luxury Woman


These days the international fashion society jetsets between New York, London, Milan and Paris. Donna Karan, Oscar de la Renta, Vivienne Westwood, Valentino, Versace, Chanel, Dior and the like have created temples of fashion and luxury. Elegant-Lifestyle wanted to find it out once and for ever: What is the ultimate indulgence for the pampered luxury woman of today, the wife of an important husband, the international film star, the princess or those celebrities who want to be ahead of tomorrow's fashion trends? There is only one answer: Haute Couture. Full stop.
'Haute Couture' is the French word for the highest, most exclusive work a big fashion house produces. However, not every fashion house also creates haute couture. It is basically an outfit created by one of the big designers such as Karl Lagerfeld for Chanel, John Galliano for Dior or Yves Saint Laurent/Tom Ford for Yves St Laurent specifically for you - or let's say nearly. Most haute couture (French for ' high tailoring') houses only produce 1,500 dresses or so a year.


© Chanel Haute Couture Autumn-Winter 2000/1
© Photo by Karl Lagerfeld
Also, haute couture dresses and outfits are hand-made and made to the measures of the client. Not only do women wearing haute couture look like the outfit has been made on them, some couturiers like the legendary Balenciaga (1895-1972) were and are able to improve the figure of their clients through their magic art of tailoring.
Having an Haute Couture dress specifically made for you ensures that the outfit you are wearing is absolutely unique. It also has the advantage that you normally avoid seeing anybody else in the same dress. Haute Couture is the elevated art form of international fashion design. With Haute Couture a creator's vision, such as Christian Lacroix or Jean Paul Gaultier for example, can be rendered to the specific demands and shape of the client. Needless to say that this alone can be a tremendous feel-good factor - quite apart from the fact that going for an Haute Couture outfit often presents a chance to meet the designer in person. Being an Haute Couture client usually also means that you receive an invitation to the fashion show that takes place twice a year (January and July) in Paris. The Haute Couture fashion shows for the Spring/Summer 2001 collection have just been in Paris during the week 20-24 January.


Paris - The Epicenter of Haute Couture
Ever since the extravagances of the court of Louis XIV (1638-1715), French fashion trends have been closely monitored by the rest of Europe. Later on in the 18th century Rose Bertin, who was Minister of Fashion to Marie Antoinette (1755-1793), was the first celebrated French fashion designer. From then on dresses from Paris went to London, Venice, Vienna, St. Petersburg and Constantinople (today's Istanbul). The inimitable Parisian elegance established the reputation of French couture throughout the world. Haute Couture as we now know it these days originated in the 19th century. It was Charles Frederick Worth, the Father of Haute Couture, who can be called the first modern couturier. When he founded his couture house in 1858 he introduced some important innovations such as showing his dresses on live models, which pleased his clients such as the Empress Eugénie of France (wife of last French Emperor Napoléon III who reigned from 1852-1870) and the Princess Metternich (wife of Austrian diplomat Metternich) immensely.
However, Worth not only launched the first - though be it private - fashion show. He and his sons founded the 'Chambre Syndicale de la Couture Parisienne' in 1868, which is the Association of Haute Couture Houses, which specified what kind of criteria a fashion designer needs to fulfil in order to call himself a 'couturier'. These days the term 'Haute Couture' is a term that is regulated by the French government and is still governed by a number of precise criteria. Only


© Jean Paul Gaultier Haute Couture Autumn-Winter 2000/1
© Photo by Patrice Stable
an exclusive circle of haute couture houses is allowed to make use of this label. Every year the eligible haute couture houses are determined by a commission (the 'Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture') that meets at the Ministry of Industry.
In order to qualify for the distinction of 'haute couture', established couturiers are required to make the designs at their own premises with a staff of at least 20. In addition, they have to present their collections consisting of at least 50 garments to the press in Paris twice a year. Furthermore, the haute couture collection has to consist of day as well as evening wear and has to be shown on a minimum of three models. The collection must also be shown in-house in dedicated salons. Needless to say that the fulfilment of all these criteria contributes to making haute couture a highly prestigious and exquisite affair and that the outfits are made for a very exclusive clientele.


Why is Haute Couture so special?

© Christian Lacroix Haute Couture Autumn-Winter 2001/2
© Photo by Guy Marineau So who are the customers that go for Haute Couture? Well, the couture houses are generally quite cagey about who their current clients are. Fair enough. However, most haute couture houses were willing to give Elegant-Lifestyle a glimpse into their list of past clients. There are the unforgettable actors of the era of glamorous cinema: Marlene Dietrich, Audrey Hepburn, Romy Schneider, Greta Garbo, Katherine Hepburn, Brigitte Bardot and Liz Taylor. Then there are the crowned heads of Europe and of the world such as Princess Grace of Monaco, the Queens of Belgium, Denmark, Spain and Thailand, the Empress of Persia, Arabian Princesses - the list is endless. However, also rock stars such as Madonna or Jennifer Lopez, women from big industrial and banking empires such as the Onassis', the Gettys, the Thyssens and the Rothschilds of this world are to be found.
Elegant-Lifestyle has come to the conclusion that if you are or want to feel like a VIP, opting for an haute couture outfit is the way to go. But haute couture goes further than that - female Wall Street bankers, women managing or owning large enterprises, lady politicians and wives of wealthy entrepreneurs all have one thing in common - they need to represent, look elegant and feel good. It is all about that feel-good factor when you walk around in a made-to-measure outfit that has been created for you by somebody like Oscar de la Renta, who is artistic director for the

House of Balmain. So is it all about feeling like - and paying - a million dollars? Luckily not!
There are only a few thousand women world-wide buying haute couture today. Although being worth the money it is of course expensive. Laurence Benaim wrote in issue No. 23 of 'France Diplomatie' (the magazine of the French Foreign Ministry) that the price for an haute couture model dress can range from 16,000 - 20,000 USD. Made-to-measure a grand evening dress can cost up to 60,000 USD; sometimes even more. Putting a price tag on haute couture fashion is obviously difficult as prices vary between the different couturiers, vary from outfit to outfit, the type of material and vary according to the amount of work that goes into making it for you. However, before you think of buying your second, third or fourth car why not go for an haute couture dress with style and enjoy all the VIP treatment in Paris that goes with it?


Haute Couture in Practice
Extensive work goes into the creation of an haute couture garment. About 100-150 hours of manual work go into the making of a day outfit such as a suit. Evening dresses with embroidery can require several 1000 hours of work. The process is the creation of a work of art - specifically for you. With Chanel for example, couturier Karl Lagerfeld starts with a sketch. Then each design is first sewn entirely in a canvas 'toile' before the real dress is made. After the fashion show, designs are entirely made-to-measure for clients with a minimum of two fittings. For regular customers Chanel keeps their own tailor's dummy, which is made to the customer's measurements.
For today's luxury woman, there are many reasons to go for the ultimate fashion indulgence. There are those big special occasions in life such as an engagement, your wedding, a christening, a special birthday, rewarding oneself for managing a special achievement, the payment of a good annual bonus, the opening night of a grand evening at the opera, attending a big ball, an important invitation to the house of a governor, a president, a royal family or a celebrity - any excuse will do. Ever thought of celebrating your engagement in Ungaro, getting married in Christian Lacroix, arriving at your son's


© Jean Louis Scherrer Haute Couture Autumn-Winter 2000/1
© Photo by Bruno Pellerin
or daughter's wedding in Dior, signing a big business deal in one of Yves Saint Laurent's famous suits or arriving at an important social event in that classic Chanel costume? If not, this is the time to have a think about it.
A note of advice - the couture houses cater to an international clientele and as a consequence, the couture model dresses are often being presented outside of Paris. It is therefore essential to make an appointment prior to your visit to Paris so that the respective couture house can ensure that all model dresses are in the country and ready for you to see. If you would like to have a preview, most couture houses will send you a video prior to your coming to Paris featuring the various couture models. A more modern alternative is to view the haute couture collections online (where available).

Overview over Today's Grand French Haute Couture Houses

The Duchess of Windsor, alias Mrs. Wallis Simpson, had her wedding dress made by French couturier Mainbocher when marrying King Edward VIII in 1937. The House of Lanvin made the wedding dress for the Spanish Princess of Alcantara. Queen Fabiola of Belgium's wedding dress was made by Balenciaga in 1960. Many big names of the past such as Mainbocher (which was taken over by Balenciaga), Paul Poiret, Madeleine Vionnet, Robert Piguet, Elsa Schiaparelli and the like don't exist anymore. Others such as Balenciaga, Nina Ricci, Paco Rabanne, Ted Lapidus and Thierry Mugler have abandoned Haute Couture. Since 1994, Pierre Cardin has chosen not to present his couture models publicly, but only to a small group of private clients. The fashion world is in constant change but other world famous houses such as Chanel, Dior, Givenchy and Yves Saint Laurent offer their clients haute couture now and today. Newer houses such as Jean Paul Gaultier and Christian Lacroix have also joined the show. Elegant-Lifestyle presents the full list of the grand French Haute Couture Houses of the present (the listing is by when the Haute Couture Houses were founded):

1. Coco Chanel (founded 1915)
2. Pierre Balmain (founded 1945)
3. Christian Dior (founded 1946)
4. Hubert de Givenchy (founded 1952)
5. Louis Féraud (founded in 1955)
6. Yves Saint Laurent (founded 1962-2002)
7. Jean-Louis Scherrer (founded 1962)
8. Emanuel Ungaro (founded 1965)
9. Jean Paul Gaultier (founded 1976)
10. Christian Lacroix (founded 1987)

from www.elegant-lifestyle.com:flower:
 
I am trying to design one this year because i hand sew dresses... but what i really want to know is do all designers have to have gone to fashion college... anyone know? :flower:
 
Missoni~Heiress said:
I am trying to design one this year because i hand sew dresses... but what i really want to know is do all designers have to have gone to fashion college... anyone know? :flower:

some designers that were like really poor when they were little and couldn't afford to go to college make a fortune on good clothes. i'm sure it helps if you go to a fashion school on your resume.
 
does anyone know about how many people it takes to sew 1 haute couture gown?
 

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