The Last Movie You Saw?

[KoV]

I saw BABYGIRL. It was entertaining and Nicole really was terrific.

 

[runner]

sonatine by kitano




woman: but you're not afraid of dying, are you?
man: when you're scared all the time, you reach a point you wish you were dead. haha.
woman: I don't get it.

 

[MulletProof]

Yeah, some people really hate his voice, but even THAT is fascinating. Even his singing voice is crazy to analyze! It hasn't/isn't always his mid-1960s affectation, which is what people HATE. Alternatively my father loved the Nashville Skyline album where he sang in a... different... voice and I hated it!! I really like his early 1960s folk recordings where he's trying to imitate Woody Guthrie. I went through a mini Pete Seeger/Woody Guthrie phase earlier this fall and when I was listening to some of the songs I was like "oh... wait... isn't that what Dylan was referencing on X album?!?! OOOOH, I GET IT NOW." Anyway, I feel like all we need to know is there... hiding in plain sight, but we don't even KNOW. I like buying into Dylan's self-made mythology. I'll accept it.

I looove Nashville Skyline 😌

I never understood the obsession with voices!.. I'll take supreme lyricism and a mediocre/disastrous voice any day, over a flawless voice and the dumbest lyrics. I'll also take disastrous lyrics and a disastrous voice (some of the rappers I listen to? 😅), anything but the 'hmm yeah baby just like that woohoo' lyrics packaged with a mezzo-soprano vocal range, like ok so you have all of that, and that's what you sing..?. I remember my uncles (Dylan's generation) asking me if I was aware that the man can't sing lol.. it's probably funny seeing a teenager discovering something 40 years later, with no context, but I was coming out of my Deftones phase!, my tolerance for vocal cords being destroyed in real time is limitless. And that's how I also love Together Through Life. I don't feel like I'm quite at an age where I can fully appreciate it and even less so as a student when it came out, but it just makes the start of your 70s sound so calm and like finally the crazy marathon has come to an end and your body is severely damaged but you're also proud that it's made it till that point. There's no way Forgetful Heart would make you imagine life in that stage so vividly and kind of even make you look forward to it, if you didn't secretly worry about whether the voice will get worse by the end of the song haha

 

[Tom Linkens]

The Mummy Returns!

 

[susseinmcswanny]

Just saw the Bob Dylan movie and I really liked it! I thought Tim did a great job and he had me smiling/giggling the whole time. My dad who was absolutely obsessed with Bob thought it was pretty good too. Also I feel ashamed to say, I could not help but think of H*di for so many of his looks I know I'm sorry.

 

[blueorchid]

Yesterday, I had to re-watch The Wizard of Oz after seeing Wicked. Today I watched The Lion in Winter. These two movies made me wonder if my attention span is the problem when watching new movies, or if the pacing of older movies was simply better.

 

[Phuel]

At the same time though, I grew up with heavy metal day and night (which always annoyed me- I thought I'd grow up and grow into it and.. nope, my ears are still recovering from my mom's Iron Maiden xmas extravaganza last night)

So amazing that your mum’s a headbanger! …Is that where your destain for the legacy mullet originated from…??? Always liked hanging out with the metalheads in high school LOL Then an ex got me into Judas Priest/Black Sabbath/Iron Maiden, but since I was always familiar with metal and always adored Defttones, classic metal wasn’t hard to fall for. But no one could ever get me into folk, especially grassroots folk. And Bob Dylan and his dying crow voice, along with Neil Young, are people I could never find interesting: Absolutely no shame in standing by this. I’ll take Paul Weller and The Jam/Style Council for my protest music anytime, anyday, anywhere.

 

[MulletProof]

^ to be honest, at one point, following my 'discovery' of folk, I became HUGE on folk from the 1920s.. probably just to antagonise my mom. Never forget when she said (during a fight) 'when did I give birth to an old lady?!'

But, a couple months ago, she took me to see Iron Maiden and I saw so many people around my age with their parents (around my parent's age- fyi my parents met at some Iron Maiden listening party thing 😂) and I could not believe they.. kind of looked a lot like me haha. A bit conservative and unimpressed but also unaffected by mom/dad acting unhinged in the crowd, like 'ah the youth of the 80s.....'.

 

[blueorchid]

I saw A Complete Unknown tonight and, um... ew... I kind of liked it. It's very Bob Dylan for newbies~, but I thought it was fine, overall. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. I'm trying not to think TOO much about the facts as they were presented in the film... because, it's too easy to poke holes in it. They should have played more with the fictions that they present, layered on top of Dylan's own fictions. I loved that they showed the (fake) episode of Pete Seeger's tv show, because I discovered all the episodes of it on YouTube a few months ago and I watch an episode when I feel stressed. His episode about Woody Guthrie was so good!!



The movie made me feel so nostalgic for when I was discovering Bob Dylan, especially going backwards and discovering his first two albums, which I have a soft spot for. I've always found Joan Baez to be pretty much impossible to listen to, but the actress who played her was great. I don't believe in astrology, BUT... as a gemini, people always focus on the evil geminis... but to me musicians like Bob Dylan and Walt Whitman are the ultimate geminis!!! I could go on, it was such a flawed move, but it reminded me of being young and discovering his music. On the way to my car, I overheard another woman in the parking lot saying that she knew less about Bob Dylan after seeing the movie and I just thought "EXACTLY!!!!"



(However making "Like a Rolling Stone" the musical finale of the film WITHOUT mentioning any of the Edie Sedgewick, Andy Warhol mythology a choice!!)

 

[susseinmcswanny]

I know!! I kept waiting for some Edie/Andy moment too... When I saw the Chelsea hotel I was sure they'd pop up. That scene tho when Joan told him to get out and he was like ... wat? He's so like Aspergian lol. But to be honest, and maybe I'm just giving them too much credit, the feeling of knowing less about him as you walk away kind of fits well to how enigmatic he is as a person. Idk. I liked it lol

 

[MulletProof]

it's too easy to poke holes in it.

It's now been bothering for days that the 'Judas!' dude was turned into a rural Karen. 😆

Didn't the story with Rotolo feel a bit too sugary and forced? I feel like it was much darker in reality and way less 'her role is to keep him grounded'.. he did call her sister a parasite, plus the abortion, I don't know..

I loved Monica Barbaro's performance, too!.. I read somewhere that Eiza Gonzalez was originally cast for the role, kind of wild that they had ultra conventional beauties in mind for these roles (Ellen included)..

 

[blueorchid]

It's now been bothering for days that the 'Judas!' dude was turned into a rural Karen. 😆

I know... I thought to myself "wait, that ain't right... a WOMAN?! but I THOUGHT..." If they were really going for it, I wish they would have had Pete Seeger grab the damn axe ("Tina! bring me the axe!!") and chop the cables!!! I was wondering if Pete Seeger had a crazed meltdown I wasn't aware of at Newport. Was it just me or were the constant scenes of Pete's wife staring... at him? at Bob? at random people? weird? Like she was there... always in the background staring at people? She had so few lines, but was a "big" presence. It caught my attention.

Yeah, the Rotolo stuff was... weird. Apparently Bob requested that they changed her name?? Also, how Dylan and everyone was hiiigh as fuuuuuck during the 1965 period and no one commented on it? I liked the bromance with high as hell Johnny Cash, hehe.

She was so good! I feel like they were a bit too slight with Joan Baez's portrayal in the film, too. Something was missing. Probably trying to avoid a lawsuit.

I thought the scenes with baby Dylan were the best. Stalking poor Woody Guthrie like that!!! Those scenes mad me feel the most nostalgic for some reason, they're not even MY story. (The music and everything just reminded me of my dad and I teared up during one of those secenes lol bye 😢)

 

[MulletProof]

Was it just me or were the constant scenes of Pete's wife staring... at him? at Bob? at random people? weird? Like she was there... always in the background staring at people? She had so few lines, but was a "big" presence. It caught my attention.

Yes 😂 .. I'm not going to make this deeper than it is I PROMISE, but that and the closeups of Ellen (I saw an interview with the director saying she's some kind of neutral perspective because she's not involved in music).. I don't know, it's kind of giving 'muse', very 'women: the softer, empathetic.. BYSTANDER' 😑😂

And then Pete's wife's momentum comes and it's '.....don't unplug'. Lol.

Might be biased cause Boyd since his David Armstrong days was 🤌 but he was perfect as Johnny Cash and I loved how they nailed that arrival where you just start seeing all these tall, skinny perfectly-dressed men in black and you just know this is someone major and that he's not trying on styles like Bob at the time lol, he IS that lifestyle..

 

[Phuel]

Egger’s Nosferatu was a letdown.

And it’s the editing that lets the film completely down. I suspect in an effort to attract a more mainstream audience since the story is so much more commercial, even pop, than his previous films, he was likely encouraged to cut a lot of the lingering, seeping atmosphere that’s usually associated with his work, to quick, even choppy edits that suck the life out of the scenes, rendering them flat, rendering the story flatter, and the characters flattest, unfortunately. And the results seem to be that the mainstream audience whom expect action and scares— coz it’s a vampire story, bored by it. While someone like myself find it all so void off his brand of superior quiet tension, dread and unease. Even the gorgeous visuals— all candlelit and moonlit with the masterclass skill of Georges de la Tour, and the compositions that seem a love letter to Casper David Friedrich, isn’t enough to endear.

^ to be honest, at one point, following my 'discovery' of folk, I became HUGE on folk from the 1920s.. probably just to antagonise my mom. Never forget when she said (during a fight) 'when did I give birth to an old lady?!'

But, a couple months ago, she took me to see Iron Maiden and I saw so many people around my age with their parents (around my parent's age- fyi my parents met at some Iron Maiden listening party thing 😂) and I could not believe they.. kind of looked a lot like me haha. A bit conservative and unimpressed but also unaffected by mom/dad acting unhinged in the crowd, like 'ah the youth of the 80s.....'.

Both your parents being metalheads is too adorable. Have you seen the movie We Summon The Darkness? The styling for the movie looks convincing of how metalheads dressed in the 1980s? I'd imagine that the cast would be how your parents looked; just both with long blond hair...

The interesting aspect of metalheads that never gets attention are… the women. I just don’t remember there being female metalheads when I was in HS— probably because they were all dressing more like Courtney Love. They aren’t showcased the way that the men are in pop culture; and women with teased big hair writhing in bikinis in 80s metal-imposter bands’ videos from Poison/White Snake/Motley Crue don’t count, since those bands are the metal equivalent to what Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff/MC Hammer/Puff Daddy (LMFAO) are to hiphop.

 

[blueorchid]

Yes 😂 .. I'm not going to make this deeper than it is I PROMISE, but that and the closeups of Ellen (I saw an interview with the director saying she's some kind of neutral perspective because she's not involved in music).. I don't know, it's kind of giving 'muse', very 'women: the softer, empathetic.. BYSTANDER' 😑😂

And then Pete's wife's momentum comes and it's '.....don't unplug'. Lol.

I found a good Substack article about Toshi Seeger's constant staring at everyone throughout the film: 'A Complete Unknown': The Ballad of TOSHI 😂 She was the DIRECTOR of Pete's tv show, she was one of the co-founders of the Newport Folk Festival, and naturally so much more involved an active than she was portrayed in the film lmao. (Omg also that weird Becka character, as another gemini... I agreed with Bob in this interaction... which might be the wrong interpretation of it? Becka: “I love you. Does that scare you?” Bob: “Well I just met you. So yeah." 🤐)

(The author of the Substack article has another hilarious one where analyzed Bob Dylan's Christmas lights for over a decade (he owns a house in her neighbourhood) Dylan's Christmas Lights: A Scholarly Treatise).

I didn't realize Boyd Holbrook was Johnny Cash until I read the credits, I was too occupied with the Dylan stuff to even notice!! You might enjoy the Johnny Cash and June Carter (before they were married, you can tell they were having an affair) on Pete Seeger's show. It's a good episode and you can tell Cash is hiiiiiiigh as fuuuuuck, he even takes off his boots at some point. Nevertheless, it's great:



Speaking of biopics, I watched De-Lovely about Cole Porter a few days ago. Somehow I remember this coming out around the time I went through a brief Cole Porter phase (wtf). I saw that it was leaving Prime in a few days, so I thought "Oh, what the heck? How bad can it be!" Well... that doomed it from the start. If we think A Complete Unknown was a weird interpretation of Dylan's mythology, this is even a worse interpretation of Cole Porter's life! What I found so bizarre was the casting. Of course, Ashley Judd (20 years younger than Kevin Kline) was cast as Porter's wife, who was actually 8 years older than him. Then, she spent half the film crying about Cole Porter's constant gay affairs because he was, well, gay. I just can't help but feel THAT WASN'T HOW IT WAS!! Imagine marrying Cole Porter and being upset with his gay affairs, how was that rooted in the truth at all? She was probably a hag her who enjoyed her life! Let her live!! A few of the musical scenes were decent, especially the finale, I'll give them that. Out of curiosity, I started watching Night and Day, the Cole Porter biopic starring Cary Grant from the 1940s, which is such a mindf*ck. I can't even go on. I'm only about 30 minutes in and it's given me a headache.

 

[IsabelMarantBoy]

Videodrome by David Cronenberg, and Suspiria by Daria Argento love me some weird spooky movies.

Is anyone else excited about The Shrouds coming out next month? Cronenberg partnered with Saint Laurent Productions, and Anthony V even designed the high tech burial shrouds featured in the movie!