The Most "Value-for-Money" Designers?

PS Helmut Lang when he designed was the sh*t .. $100 jeans worth every penny back on the year

AMEN.:clap::clap::clap:

i miss helmut lang for that reason. he'd create some of the most avant garde pieces -- from shoes to shirts to suits to jeans -- at the most reasonable prices BAR NONE. i still wear some old helmut lang every now and again. i feel old saying this, but the world was a simpler place back then....

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...best of all, you could rely on the fact that the staples of his wardrobe - the suits, the jeans and moleskin coats, were there every season, way before it became trendy to wear a boy-ish cut tux jacket with sleeves pushed up over leggings and tunique dresses. There's something almost trend-resistant about (the original) Helmut Lang clothing that I like and that I feel noone else is nailing as insistantly as him, besides maybe Jil and Rick Owens is doing now (with his obviously very different clothes).
 
while i do concur that chanel has a lock on that heirloom and timelessness quality, their ready-to-wear and accessories find themselves priced way beyond many pieces that have those same qualities. st. john suits, for example, have all of those qualities at a fraction of the price. also, during the ladylike trend five years back, almost every single ready-to-wear house of worth did a more interesting version of the tweed jacket than chanel including versace, moschino, and anna sui for FAR less money than some of the real things....

You're right, but of course it will never be the same to wear tweed jackets than to wear THE Chanel tweed jackets. I think most of chanel's garments are worth every penny. Of course some of them are rubish and I wouldn't pay a cent, but most of what lagerfeld and his atelier do is absolutely worth my money lol... (of course not my money but my mother's or someone else xD)
 
BTW I think Trussardi has reasonable prices for amazing clothes and of course gorgeous accesories and bags and all. Burberry isn't that expensive either, specially in line clothing or outerwear.
 
You're right, but of course it will never be the same to wear tweed jackets than to wear THE Chanel tweed jackets. I think most of chanel's garments are worth every penny. Of course some of them are rubish and I wouldn't pay a cent, but most of what lagerfeld and his atelier do is absolutely worth my money lol... (of course not my money but my mother's or someone else xD)

And not really mine either :lol:

The problem in my mind with the Chanel jacket is that it's such a specific style. Even though Coco herself and her ideas were quite original at the time, now the jacket is quite staid. And IMO can be aging unless you are already quite old :innocent: The other issue is that most are sold as a suit only, and if the jacket is staid, the whole suit is staid to the power of 10. It inflates the price of the jacket, which is what most people actually want.

All that to say, it can be a waste of money for some people, if the style isn't right for them. It's on many 'must-have' lists, but IMO it's a don't-buy for many if not most women.

PS Just wanted to add that Valentino will split up any suit into separates if you want to buy only one piece.
 
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You're right, but of course it will never be the same to wear tweed jackets than to wear THE Chanel tweed jackets. I think most of chanel's garments are worth every penny. Of course some of them are rubish and I wouldn't pay a cent, but most of what lagerfeld and his atelier do is absolutely worth my money lol... (of course not my money but my mother's or someone else xD)

"ain't nothing like the real thing, baby," the song sings. i see both sides of this coin. while i contend chanel prices its items WAY beyond mere workmanship and materials, they CAN charge a premium because it's a CHANEL. also, chanel should charge a premium because they create that dream we so aspire to in fashion....

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Burberry isn't that expensive either, specially in line clothing or outerwear.

burberry stands as one of those houses that make GREAT non-chalant -- yet utterly stylish and fashion forward -- basics at a reasonable price. again, especially on sale. one trendy trench on sale can last years.

also, christopher bailey remains a genius in fashion because he blurs the lines between the high end with prorsum lines and the low end with the burberry london products.

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leather items by rick owens would be an excellent value. sure it would cost a few grand but you could literally wear it hundreds of times.
 
^i used to be like "when i'll got the money, i'll buy an Hermes bag ..."

now all I think about is "when i'll got the money, i'll get a RO leather jacket + a CCP pair of shoes !"

definitely worth the price !!

PS Helmut Lang when he designed was the sh*t .. $100 jeans worth every penny back on the year
that was a time when you could still buy things for not that much ...
now everything is higher than in this time. i won't blame the € and put on the "natural evolution" .... but sometimes, i just wonder ........
 
^ Well, we're talking designers, so I think that lets Benetton out ;)
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Rick owens is probably great for leather items, but i've never really been a fan of leather, particularly jackets. IMO theres such a thin line between stylish/classy and cheesy look as far as leather is concerned..

And i'd prefer to invest in an actual jewellers than get a designer bracelet/jewellery..I just feel that as far as value for money, let alone overall quality and expertise, no designer can beat an actual jeweller.

And someone mentioned church's shoes..my father once got me a pair of suede loafers, and I can vouch for their high quality and value for money. A definite good "buy".:p
 
^ Vintage jewelry is a great buy too. Plus you have something no one else does. If you buy David Yurman, you have something every second woman has :innocent:
 
If you buy David Yurman, you have something every second woman has :innocent:

same could be said about rick owens leather, well maybe not every other woman but i see more women in ro leather jackets than yurman jewelry these days.

i just dont see how a $2900 leather jacket by anyone is a value? even if you wore it everyday for a year it would still cost about $8 a day for one jacket.

so...if value is defined as "how much a desired object is worth relative to other objects" a good value in a similar leather jacket would be around the same cost, but thats just not so. however, a good value would be the copy of the rick owens design made out of comparable leather...
 
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Well, but the value would also depend on your clothing budget. If someone is spending 20-30k a year on clothing then a statement jacket at $2,900 might be a good deal for them. Not at $8 a wear, maybe its closer to something to determining how much you'll wear it, how many seasons it will last, and how it fits into your budget/lifestle.

Tata, agreed about Chanel jackets, they can be ageing, the full on suit especially so. I feel that way about the classic flap bags too. They look adorable when you're in your 20s, but I'm convinced that if I got one now (in my 30s) it would age me. I do like their edging bags that don't have the cc logo.

I haven't personally shopped there, but I've heard Fendi has a good price point. Any opinions?

Agree that Burberry RTW has some decently priced pieces.

Ralph Lauren's higher end labels are always so expensive they leave me baffled.
 
^ Wrt Burberry, I feel like the quality is not what it was before they decided to become fashion-forward ... I have things from both the old and new eras.

Wrt Ralph Lauren, there was a time when he had things that were a very good value. I had a beloved sweatshirt that I wore at home on cold days, probably had it for at least 10 years, and when it finally wore out I stopped by the store. Not only was there not a sweatshirt in the place, but the starting price point was ~$200. So if they had it, a sweatshirt might be $300-400? Which is not my idea of what to spend on basic loungewear separates ...
 
same could be said about rick owens leather, well maybe not every other woman but i see more women in ro leather jackets than yurman jewelry these days.

i just dont see how a $2900 leather jacket by anyone is a value? even if you wore it everyday for a year it would still cost about $8 a day for one jacket.

so...if value is defined as "how much a desired object is worth relative to other objects" a good value in a similar leather jacket would be around the same cost, but thats just not so. however, a good value would be the copy of the rick owens design made out of comparable leather...

You are simply moving in better circles than I am, I imagine :lol:
 
i would definitely mostly go for a leather jackt by an artisan than a RO one ... But what I love is the design, too ... and not only the leather !
if that was not just the design, i would go for the artisan ... and it's sometimes less expensive ... definitely less expensive ! my mother has an artisan leather jkt who is perfection. she has it for more than 20 yrs (!!!) and it costed like approx. 600-700€ (in the 1980s I think it was a pretty big price !).

but we are supposed to talk about the designers, right ?

like about shoes ... i would better go for Berluti (FR) for a pair of shoes. But, Church is most famous, so people talk about Church ...
My shoes are UK too but Shipton (about 250£ a pair) or McQueen (600-700€ a pair), or italian Santoni (300€ a pair) ... But ppl think it's more cool to talk about Church or Jil Sander etc. And mine are perfection if you take enough care of them ... not like me !:doh:

That is just a question of cool and having a famous name ! But still we want the one who are worth paying the price !
 
i just dont see how a $2900 leather jacket by anyone is a value? even if you wore it everyday for a year it would still cost about $8 a day for one jacket.

so...if value is defined as "how much a desired object is worth relative to other objects" a good value in a similar leather jacket would be around the same cost, but thats just not so. however, a good value would be the copy of the rick owens design made out of comparable leather...

rick owens jackets -- unlike chanel jackets, let's say -- have the ability to get worn not just one year, but they're edgy enough to get pulled out for years and years and years. one probably sees them on every other women because once you're in the club, it's a lifelong membership. you can't walk out of the house in the same powder pink -- or red or jade or lilac -- chanel jacket every day, but a leather jacket remains a great topper no matter the look.
 

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