The 'Outfit Look-Alikes' Thread

[Avonlea]

I personally felt that she was more inspired by designs of that period and she twisted them around to modernize them for the 90's/00's. Much like how Marc Jacobs interprets other designers in his works.

I actually find Marc to be the opposite. He has always been very literal and now it's even worse. His recent collection look like tear pages from vintage Vogue issues. When it comes to Miuccia you are right but I was thinking more abut her work from late 00's and early 10's.

 

[YohjiAddict]

Well, there's that infamous Balenciaga coat she copied exactly, which according to Manuela Pavesi is an example of Miuccia's design methodology and a key aspect to her success. Here's Miuccia wearing what looks to be said coat (based on the description from the NY Times article).


Source: Ideas & Trends: Fashion Replay; Imitation Is the Mother of Invention Ideas & Trends: Fashion Replay; Imitation Is the Mother of Invention (Published 2002)

 

[Lola701]

Miuccia always loved ripping off 60s/early 70s designers.

Usually designers’s inspirations coincides with their childhood/teenage years.

Miuccia’s work is a mix between the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. She always goes around those decades. And when we talk about those decades, it means YSL, Balenciaga, Courreges and of course Cardin!

And I think the fabulous thing about it is that those designers weren’t at all in the same creative vibe and somehow, the mix of them makes Prada.

 

[YohjiAddict]

The print is vaguely similar in that is black/white/red and pixelated.

Vivienne Westwood S/S 1997 | Prada S/S 2009




Bellazon/Livingly

 

[susseinmcswanny]

John Galliano (not sure which collection exactly but jacket is up for auction at Hindman) vs. Vivienne Westwood FW 1995


source: hindmanauctions.com
John Galliano Jacket


source: vogue.com

I often forget for some reason how much Galliano (and McQueen for that matter) blatantly ripped off Westwood. It's almost like he idolized or wanted to be her lol. Altho, in some instances I would def deem it acceptable as inspiration rather than a rip off. Westwood can be heavily historical. I guess that's how evolution works

 

[MagFan]

Galliano jacket is from Fall 1999. Dior and Galliano items have seasons mentioned in long number on size label. first digit is a year and second letter is a season

 

[YohjiAddict]

I often forget for some reason how much Galliano (and McQueen for that matter) blatantly ripped off Westwood. It's almost like he idolized or wanted to be her lol. Altho, in some instances I would def deem it acceptable as inspiration rather than a rip off. Westwood can be heavily historical. I guess that's how evolution works

Totally, more Galliano since he has more of that sense for humoristic interpretations of historical dress, McQueen is more self-serious. Galliano's graduate collection is basically an interpretation of Westwood's first runway show, "Pirates". Spring 1993 is also quite referential. And at the end of the 90s both focused their efforts on a slim, fitted silhouette, in the vein of 50s Dior.

 

[Avonlea]

Totally, more Galliano since he has more of that sense for humoristic interpretations of historical dress, McQueen is more self-serious. Galliano's graduate collection is basically an interpretation of Westwood's first runway show, "Pirates". Spring 1993 is also quite referential. And at the end of the 90s both focused their efforts on a slim, fitted silhouette, in the vein of 50s Dior.

In the book by Kerry Taylor there is a fragment about press calling him out for copying Westwood. He also loved Kawakubo and Yohji. If I remember correctly Mcqueen did his own take on John's seashell dress.

 

[dior_couture1245]

In the book by Kerry Taylor there is a fragment about press calling him out for copying Westwood. He also loved Kawakubo and Yohji. If I remember correctly Mcqueen did his own take on John's seashell dress.

Designers will always be lifting things from each other. Designs from the past and designs from the present. It's only natural.

The difference between designers then and designers now, is that - even if Galliano or McQueen did lift certain ideas from their contemporaries (which they certainly did), the result and the final collection was always uniquely of their own voice. That's the mark of a great designer. Even Marc Jacobs is excellent at this. He can practically Xerox another designer's work and still put on a show that is unmistakably "Marc Jacobs."

Designers now don't have a personal enough creative vision...it makes it difficult for them to synthesize different inspirations into their oeuvre...well, because they don't have one. It's why almost everything today looks and feels the same. Everyone is looking at the same things for inspiration, which is natural to a degree, but no one is able to make it their own.

 

[Avonlea]

^Of course. I didn't want to crtitique John and Mcqueen in my post. I just thought it was worth mentioning.

The seashell dress example perfectly shows the difference between the old and new wave of designers. Mcqueen spend a lot of time analyzing the possible construction of that dress so then he could make his own version. He didn't just lazily copy it. Nowadays it's the opposite. New designers are interested in fashion on a surface level. They don't want to spend time honing their skills and enrich visual vocabulary so that it goes further than Margiela and Lang.
Gone are the days when creatives would spend weeks in libraries, museums and flea markets in search for inspiration. Internet really killed this industry.

 

[velvetandsilk]

Bottega Veneta/ Givenchy Mini Antigona

net-a-porter.com/ givenchy.com/

 

[eugenius]

Is it me, or is it commonplace for designers to copy key bags from each other, and actually get away with it? How many luxury brands had their own version of the Celine bag, or the Balenciaga bag, or their own quilted bag w/ chain?

It seems to be the exception, not the norm, to the don't-copy rule.

 

[dior_couture1245]

It's very common, and really always has been.

It's like going to a flea market...the vintage bags from the 50's and 60's and 70's are all almost identical, regardless of the designer. Think about those very bourgeois 60's frame bags...every single designer made one.

 

[YohjiAddict]

Vivienne Westwood S/S 1985 | AF Vandevorst S/S 2006



Vivienne Westwood F/W 1998 | AF Vandevorst S/S 2006




Bellazon/vogue.com

 

[YohjiAddict]

Olivier Theyskens S/S 2002 | AF Vandevorst F/W 2006.07



Livingly/vogue.com

 

[THD96]

Oscar de la Renta Resort 2022

Source: vogue.com

Alexander Mcqueen Spring 2019

Source: vogue.com

 

[dior_couture1245]

^^The ODLR ones honestly look better.

 

[terrainvague]

Martin Margiela 1994 Reproduction of Ken Doll Sweater from 1960s x Bottega Veneta by Daniel Lee Salon 01

credits: Flickr / bottegaveneta.com

 

[terrainvague]

Jeremy Scott Summer 1998 x Y/Project

source: twitter/muglerize & ssense

 

[terrainvague]

Martin Margiela Spring 1998 flat garment series x Proenza Schouler Spring 2021 fittings WIP

source: yahoo auctions jp, kalma & proenza schouler instagram