Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes Divorced - No Religious Talk (Includes Scientology) Allowed

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^ I didn't attack you or anybody in this thread.

Well, then I'm sorry that I misinterpreted your post and perhaps lvstratus' (?).

I felt like all the emoticons were mocking what I was saying. When I was just trying to make the point that Katie Holmes celeb status has risen because of her marriage to Tom Cruise. Again, I'm sorry if I misunderstood your intention.
 
^ The results of the marriage in terms of her celebrity status are clear. What I find considerably less clear (and I'm not quite sure how others are gaining their apparently considerable insight into the inner motivation of someone they have never even met) is that boosting her celebrity was her sole intent in entering this marriage.
 
^ I def dont think that she did it for her career, I really think she fell for him and was strucked by all the attention of a big star, her longtime "crush" . And Im sure Tom was all over her, making her feel like the most important person in the world, I can imagine all the attention, compliments, gifts, travels, everything trying to impress her and she being young in her twenties, I mean who wouldnt fell... its normal....I think she truly fell in love but then saw his true colors(and cos true colors) after all that "in love first fase" was over.
 
What I find considerably less clear is that boosting her celebrity was her sole intent in entering this marriage.
Well, let's see...

A few weeks after her engagement to long time boyfriend ended Katie met Tom Cruise, the actor who she'd had a lifetime crush on. She had Tommy Boy posters on the wall in her room.

A couple of months later they were engaged.

Sounds more like rebound, childhood crush, and whirlwind romancing than a plan motivated by career aspirations.
 
Well, let's see...

A few weeks after her engagement to long time boyfriend ended Katie met Tom Cruise, the actor who she'd had a lifetime crush on. She had Tommy Boy posters on the wall in her room.

A couple of months later they were engaged.

Sounds more like rebound, childhood crush, and whirlwind romancing than a plan motivated by career aspirations.

Sounds more like a really good PR pitch. And apparently it's still working. Amazing :lol:
 
PR or not. What I see on recent pictures is a really unhappy Suri.
 
'It was a carefully planned ambush': Katie Holmes 'fired Tom Cruise's daughter Bella from her clothing company two months ago'

Their split may have shocked the showbiz world, but yet more evidence has emerged that Katie Holmes had been planning to leave Tom Cruise for months before making the announcement on June 29.

A new report has claimed that Katie made the decision to fire Cruise's 19-year-old daughter Bella, whom he adopted during his marriage to Nicole Kidman, two months previously as she worked for the actress' clothing line Holmes and Yang.

A source told the Hollywood Reporter that while Bella was stunned by the news, it has all started to make sense in the wake of the divorce announcement.

The source said: 'There was never any trouble between them. Bella called Katie "Mom." She was fired out of the blue, and once Katie filed for divorce, it all made sense.

'This was a carefully planned ambush. Katie didn’t want Bella working for her anymore because she was Tom’s kid.'

The decision to fire Bella was one of the first attempts Katie made to stand up to Cruise and the religious organisation of Scientology, of which the actor is a very vocal member.

Karen De La Carriere, a former Scientology executive who had been married to Scientology's president Heber Jentzsch, who has been missing for years, told the publication that Katie's move was extremely courageous.

She said: 'This was a very bold move on Katie’s part, but at the same time she knows these are different times and she has more support.

'Katie ambushed Tom Cruise and in so doing outwitted some of the most controlling people on Earth.'

Now Katie is said to be determined to do everything in her power to get sole custody of her and Tom's six-year-old daughter Suri.

The actress is said to be terrified that Tom is planning to alienate Suri from her mother in the same way that he has kept Bella and son Connor away from their adoptive mother Nicole Kidman.

Ex Scientologist Marty Rathbun, who left the church in 2004 after 22 years at the top of the organisation, advised Tom to give Katie what she wants if he doesn't want sordid details of their former Scientologist's way of life to be made public.

He said: 'Katie could blow Scientology wide open. If Tom’s smart, he won’t fight her on anything, even custody. He should just try to settle his way out of it.

'She could press this sole-custody issue and litigate it, and that would be the biggest nightmare in the Church of Scientology’s history. It would be a circus they couldn’t survive.'

Marc Headley, who was aided by police when he left the church in 2005, said: 'You're either in or out when it comes to Scientology.

'That’s why Katie is making custody such an issue in the divorce petition. If you’re out, the way she seems to be, they want to cut you off from everyone, including your kids.'

However, TMZ.com are reporting that Tom is determined to ensure the divorce settlement from Katie will see him continue to have 'meaningful, significant contact with his daughter'.

A source close to the negotiations told TMZ.com: 'Suri is the primary concern in Tom's life'.

Meanwhile, Headley, who wrote about his experiences with Scientology in Blown for Good: Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology in 2009, said that Katie is likely be be followed by representatives from the church in a bid to get information on the actress for the divorce battle - claims that the church has already denied.

However, Headley said: 'Scientology is going to do to Katie what they always do in these situations.

'They’re going to put a thousand private investigators on her tail and dig through her garbage and talk to her staff even though they don’t have any real dirt on her.'

And De La Carriere added: 'I have no doubt that she’s being tailed by them. It's par for the course.'
*Dailymail.co.uk
 
My aunt was in this same position, sort of, her husband was a controlling alcoholic and she'd had enough, so one day she thought 'I need out of this' carefully got the money together to put a deposit down on a new rental house and separated bank accounts and slowly but surely she got everything in place and one weekend her husband went away with their son and she took her chance and left, her and her daughter put all the boxes in storage for the new house when it was ready and stayed with friends far enough away from him, the children knew for months and carefully considered every move they made, so being in a controlling situation like Katie seems to have been in wasn't as easy for her to get out of especially considering she's in the public eye with such a young child, you never know if he played mind games with her either, especially with the things I've read and heard on the news regarding her past movie roles.

I do always wonder if he was worried she'd be a bigger star than he was, if she had worked hard enough at it, with the right roles etc...

In all fairness I wouldn't of said he was that big of a star now, He scrapes through with the odd movie role here and there, but nothing compared to the 80's and 90's and the days of cocktail and top gun, I've never been a fan of him anyway, he's always seemed a one genre kind of person.
 
It's Over! Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes Reach Divorce Settlement

Wow, that was fast!

While we were bracing ourselves for one messy, never-ending divorce battle, it seems Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise have officially come to an agreement!

We previously reported the joint statement made by the two and now we can confirm that the case has been settled!

Katie's attorney states:
"The case has been settled and the agreement has been signed. We are thrilled for Katie and her family and are excited to watch as she embarks on the next chapter of her life. We thank Tom's counsel for their professionalism and diligence that helped bring about this speedy resolution."

As of now, no details regarding the agreement have been made public, but we can only hope that Suri's best interests WERE kept in mind!

We have to give the ex-couple props for handling it all in such a private, quiet way! Very mature!
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^ Let's see... a small child, hundreds of millions of dollars, and it is quietly settled in less than two weeks??? Whatever she has on him and/or his 'friends' must be devastating!! :shock:
 
Yeah, no matter how you slice it, she won this battle. She knew she had to get sole custody or she was going to turn into Nicole Kidman. I'm sure we'll see more evidence of her position going by where she enrolls Suri in school and if she starts taking her to a Catholic church. Tom has to be pissed.
 
^ Let's see... a small child, hundreds of millions of dollars, and it is quietly settled in less than two weeks??? Whatever she has on him and/or his 'friends' must be devastating!! :shock:
that..or his PR team realized the magnitude of public's interest in this and can't afford any more negative press coming his way with two movies out in the next year..
 
I am somehow happy for Katie for such a bold and planned move, eventough you need to take everything on the papers with grain of salt. But I happen to think any kind of religional fanatics are scary... so if even half of what is written about Tom is true, Katie made a smart, but nevertheless hard, solution. I wish her well.

Edit: and of course she made a right decision if she just felt he is not right for her and their daughter. Didn`t mean to sound like she couldn´t have any other reasons.
 
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^^ He chose the right choice. Laniey said that the HW fatcats were saying to Tom to just be sensible and sort this out privately and they will support him whereas members of you know what were saying go after Katie hard like he did with Nicole. He made the right choice. Props to Tom.
 
This is the full statement -

Holmes's attorney Jonathan Wolfe confirmed the deal in a statement to PEOPLE:

"The case has been settled and the agreement has been signed. We are thrilled for Katie and her family and are excited to watch as she embarks on the next chapter of her life.

"This result could not have been achieved without the hard work of my partner Gary Skoloff and our co-counsel Allan Mayefsky, Michael Mosberg and Larry Trachtenberg of Aronson Mayefsky and Sloan and Peter Walzer and Chris Melcher of Walzer & Melcher in California.

"We thank Tom's counsel for their professionalism and diligence that helped bring about this speedy resolution."

There was no immediate word on the details, but Holmes and Cruise said in a separate statement they focused on protecting daughter Suri, 6.

"We are committed to working together as parents to accomplish what is in our daughter Suri's best interests. We want to keep matters affecting our family private and express our respect for each other's commitment to each of our respective beliefs and support each other's roles as parents," says the statement from Holmes and Cruise's reps, Nanci Ryder and Amanda Lundberg respectively.
Sources close to both sides say that Cruise, 50, and Holmes, 33, were working on an arrangement in which Suri lives in New York with her mother and her father is given generous visitation rights.

I've highlighted the interesting bits. Good Luck Katie :innocent:
 
So I guess there won't be anymore rumors about Tom and Beckham? What a pity!
 
tom had to make it look like custody of suri would be his primary concern when in fact it isnt. his primary concern is the truth behind the rumours not coming to light. theres been fairly accurate blinds about this for a while so it wasnt a 'shock' to him as such. he probably just thought theyd announce it together. after all, katies contract was up for renewal. she blindsided him by cutting him off and playing this out in the media and got what she wanted. good on her.
 
also if katie, late 20s early 30s, wasnt creeped out by toms kids, teenagers, calling her 'mom', id be surprised.
 
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