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Tom Ford S/S 2023 New York

Tom has lost his mojo...this collection feels like a parody of what Tom Ford style stands for. It is like a costume party for teenagers; and the theme is "Studio 54 meets Las Vegas". Cheap for the sake of cheapness.

Checking the pics there were moments I had the feeling of checking a new collection by Dsquared...TFsquared?? So trashy and vulgar! Not a single drop of sophistication here. And everything looks soooo dated, overexposed and tired!

He needs to rest and relax for a couple of years. And I hope he recovers his lost taste.
 
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Not the most groundbreaking of Tom Ford collections but it's still right up my street, and I've got zero complaints. The show was oozing glitz, glamour and razzle dazzle - all very much quintessential Tom Ford and I'm getting slight flashes of Christian Dior Spring 2004.
 
Did anyone else feel like there were three shows in one? Every 10 or so looks a new theme appeared to emerge. I didn't mind it, but I can only imagine what his mood board looked like this season. I can picture a very cluttered wall or folder/binder!!!
 
^^^ He's as desperate as the kidz, isn't he? Can’t say I’m fond of nor disappointed by Tom’s shows and campaigns these days. This sort of blatant, OTT gaudiness in branding is unfortunately what the brand has become. Creatives reaching their 60s is the equivalent of a pampered bratty tween from an affluent suburb acting out.

Once separated from its tiresome parade of loud cheese (…although adore the Jody Watley/Tayler Dane big hair), there are the usual immaculately tailored suitings and appropriately expensive leathers and exotic skins— and the lace is a nice touch. The inclusion of the men’s in their There’s Something About Mary hair and Zoolander styling is oddly and tragically, what the brand seems to push for the men’s. It’s at a point where I still buy Tom for the cut and design, but I will be discreet about wearing him. The current trajectory of his branding just makes my skin crawl.

(The sequins-OD of the finale is hilarious enough— only to top it with gold hooker boots for the bride… It’s such a gross, bloated parody of some Walmart Holiday Barbie monstrosity LOOOL)
 
I like some of the shiny pant suits and All, but overall didnt like it...I dont remember Tom doing eighties in a right way, he is more of a 70s guy... The hair was great... But really whats with the soundtrack? A bit jumpy and unoriginal, except for the Last segment with freddy at the piano which really moved me.
 
I don't know why he even needs to show at fashion week. I guess if you are one for ceremony and tradition it makes sense, but for me at least I never find myself anticipating his work like I used to do for Ralph or Marc. He rarely gives enough newness to be exciting. Of course his product is great, the quality and construction is as luxurious as ever, but why he feels the need to splurge on a show outside of marketing never made sense to me.

I guess you could say that with a lot of NYFW labels, but the lack of risk and challenge from Ford has made his seasonal collections, dare I say, boring....
 
^^^ Nothing more than for brand profile. Especially now that his is up for sale, even he needs to remind all potential investors what the brand is all about (…and sadly, this is what it’s about LOL).

Still, just thankful for small favours that at least it’s a cast of toned and fit models, and Paloma and Precious are nowhere to be seen here.
 
I don't know why he even needs to show at fashion week. I guess if you are one for ceremony and tradition it makes sense, but for me at least I never find myself anticipating his work like I used to do for Ralph or Marc. He rarely gives enough newness to be exciting. Of course his product is great, the quality and construction is as luxurious as ever, but why he feels the need to splurge on a show outside of marketing never made sense to me.

I guess you could say that with a lot of NYFW labels, but the lack of risk and challenge from Ford has made his seasonal collections, dare I say, boring....
Shows are important for brands like that. It’s a fabulous PR event sure but it also drives sales to have a show.
No matter what, Tom Ford is still a very respected name in fashion and people have some sort of curiosity for whatever he does. The energy of a show create an impulse for people who wants to buy.

I mean, for me it does… I don’t necessarily buy every season but the show creates a conversation. When the show is such a statement, it’s interesting to discuss actually beyond the consumerist nature of the whole thing.

Tom has had nice collections that weren’t shown on the runway but a lookbook cannot create the type of polarizing reactions as a show like this.

But contrary to everybody, I don’t think this type of collections or this collection hurts the brand on the long run. Yes, it left us hungry as people who really dissect and enjoy fashion in a 360 angle. But the brand has kept a fair level of exclusivity and the people who buys it are maybe not as engage in every aspect of fashion as us.

I wonder now if FW2023 will push the taste further or if he will comeback to something more subtle. All his collections post his husband’s death have been louder and louder…
 
^^^ The only shocking statement he could make at this point in his life and career if he sent out an entire cast of senior citizens. And make it work.

The show would start with a stronger impression had he debuted with look 10, and trash all the finale gowns, replaced them with croc/croc-embossed leather knee-length form-fitting dresses and bikinis for the ultimate statement of decadence. …And retiring Carine would also be a visual relief. And return to the intimacy of a ground-level runway like when he premiered his label. This disco runway is the worst of the early-2000 eurotrash sensibility.

Him wanting to push the limits of bad taste and tacky is fine and likely what he’s encouraged by his inner circle. But when the visuals just recycle the safety of Nomi’s Showgirl and doesn’t bring anything else, it all comes off so boring, bland and basic. God, Carine’s become Tom’s Grima Wormtongue.
 
Shows are important for brands like that. It’s a fabulous PR event sure but it also drives sales to have a show.
No matter what, Tom Ford is still a very respected name in fashion and people have some sort of curiosity for whatever he does. The energy of a show create an impulse for people who wants to buy.

I mean, for me it does… I don’t necessarily buy every season but the show creates a conversation. When the show is such a statement, it’s interesting to discuss actually beyond the consumerist nature of the whole thing.

Tom has had nice collections that weren’t shown on the runway but a lookbook cannot create the type of polarizing reactions as a show like this.

But contrary to everybody, I don’t think this type of collections or this collection hurts the brand on the long run. Yes, it left us hungry as people who really dissect and enjoy fashion in a 360 angle. But the brand has kept a fair level of exclusivity and the people who buys it are maybe not as engage in every aspect of fashion as us.

I wonder now if FW2023 will push the taste further or if he will comeback to something more subtle. All his collections post his husband’s death have been louder and louder…

Yes you are 100% right. I was talking about this the other day with a friend who works in the production side of the industry. He basically said everything you mentioned.Truthfully, I'll never understand how a show can impact a brands topline. Like I get it from a marketing POV, but after that it still doesn't make sense to me.

Side note- when I say show, I mean any display of over the top extravagance. Never understood Karl’s fascination with them, but who am I, really. For me, Helmut Lang always had the perfect show. Never to much, the perfect length. It was and still is to me just right.
 
Side note- when I say show, I mean any display of over the top extravagance. Never understood Karl’s fascination with them, but who am I, really. For me, Helmut Lang always had the perfect show. Never to much, the perfect length. It was and still is to me just right.
I could never get behind how the models always walked so close to each other. Personally, I think that Lanvin under Elbaz, specifically 2006-2012, had the perfect show. Just the right amount of showmanship.
 
Yes you are 100% right. I was talking about this the other day with a friend who works in the production side of the industry. He basically said everything you mentioned.Truthfully, I'll never understand how a show can impact a brands topline. Like I get it from a marketing POV, but after that it still doesn't make sense to me.

Side note- when I say show, I mean any display of over the top extravagance. Never understood Karl’s fascination with them, but who am I, really. For me, Helmut Lang always had the perfect show. Never to much, the perfect length. It was and still is to me just right.
But I think every formula is valid. All the brands don’t need shows…We saw it with Longchamp. It was pointless because nobody cares about their shows. Sometimes a presentation is enough.

For me, when you are an important name in fashion or have a strong POV, the show is a necessity because there’s no better way to convey your message.

I also liked Helmut Lang shows. It was dynamic (even if I hated the model passing twice thing he used to do) but also it made sense. Weirdly, I’ve hated Margiela shows. I’ve always hated the rhythm of his shows…It’s not a surprise that SS 2007 is my favorite collection from him because it’s the most classic type of presentation he had I think.

Karl big shows at Chanel in the 2010´s were for me interesting because people saw it is a pure extravaganza but for me, it was a way to put clothes in a context and also to have a strong recollection of a collection through one strong element. If I say FW 2015, I don’t think anybody remember what I’m talking about but if I say the « Brasserie collection » you have the images right in your face. But also I think it also inspired the clients to buy because you see something in a kind of idealized real life situation and you want it. After the supermarket show, I felt like every thing I need was a tweed jumpsuit and sneakers because it looked so comfortable and relatable. And I bought it.
With Fendi it was a different story. The shows were simple but the clothes were strong anyway.

But to tell you how the show is important for some brands, I haven’t purchased a Fendi item since Kim Jones took over. I’m sure there are cute pieces in the shops but because I didn’t liked anything, I don’t care about the brand anymore. And Fendi, unlike Tom Ford is not a brand that has « staples » in RTW. I can go to Tom Ford for tailoring because his cut is so distinctive or for a silk shirt in blush colors or even his silk jersey tshirts that nobody else does.

But the show is still nevertheless the best way to capture people attention and when you got their attention whatever they like can be translated in potential sales.
 
^^^ The only shocking statement he could make at this point in his life and career if he sent out an entire cast of senior citizens. And make it work.

The show would start with a stronger impression had he debuted with look 10, and trash all the finale gowns, replaced them with croc/croc-embossed leather knee-length form-fitting dresses and bikinis for the ultimate statement of decadence. …And retiring Carine would also be a visual relief. And return to the intimacy of a ground-level runway like when he premiered his label. This disco runway is the worst of the early-2000 eurotrash sensibility.

Him wanting to push the limits of bad taste and tacky is fine and likely what he’s encouraged by his inner circle. But when the visuals just recycle the safety of Nomi’s Showgirl and doesn’t bring anything else, it all comes off so boring, bland and basic. God, Carine’s become Tom’s Grima Wormtongue.
There’s almost something ironic in the fact that Carine is still every bit of a Tom Ford. She still looks great, she wears his clothes like nobody but in terms of styling, it’s not stimulating. I’m curious to see how she will wear this collection because I know she would never wear it the way she styled it…

I appreciate their friendship, their mutual loyalty but she can give up the shows, just the shows…She styles everything Tom Ford already. I’ve always said that both needs to be stimulated in a creative way and they aren’t stimulating each other. She needs a strong photographer and he needs a strong editor.
 
There’s almost something ironic in the fact that Carine is still every bit of a Tom Ford. She still looks great, she wears his clothes like nobody but in terms of styling, it’s not stimulating. I’m curious to see how she will wear this collection because I know she would never wear it the way she styled it…

That's also how I feel about MAS with NG. Like there's now way they would wear these clothes the way they styled for the shows. It's kinda frustrated in real life the clothes really look chic and effortless on them.
They have been using the same tricks for quite sometimes. I know they do it for the shows but for once I would love to see them style the clothes the way they wear it in their daily life.
 
Everything's good I guess but Tom, honey, what's going on with the quality? This is straight up Shein.

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