I watch both shows all the time. In a way I think it is rude and makes people conform, but on the other hand it seems that all of these people want to conform. Either that, or they are brainwashed, because they seem genuinely happy about their new look and about the 'transformation inside'. I will say that the British are much more stubborn and hold onto their own looks much longer than the Americans. But I think Clinton and Stacey look better than Trinny(stop with the lip injections) and Susannah.