UK Vogue May 2023 by Adama Jalloh

A lot of you guys swear like the disabled folks that advocated for this cover have no agency over this whole issue. And having the word Disabled plastered in the front page is akin to having "the black issue" or "the shape issue." Also, these people don't have to be artists or shelling some product to be featured, just like all these skinny models who have no talent than just being pretty.
 
it should be wholesome and commendable but I’m not sure how I feel about it.

Fashion
is not strictu sensu anymore and that’s ok… sounds c*nty of me to think that it’s too inclusive and that it’s not what fashion is about. or is it? I’m sure there’s room for all of it. inclusion, wokeness, diversity.
bah
 
I actually love covers 2,3 and 5. The lighting and colours on 5 are awesome though the tagline of dynamic, daring and disabled just sounds wrong though I also feel like its not my place or anyone that is not disabled to be offended by it, if people that are disabled feel well represented thats what matters.
 
Most of the covers are more appropiate of Time magazine or ever The New York Times.

It's very sad than Edward now put the cover stars with a political method of been in Vogue, and he become a Wintour's clone respect of these themes.
 
Not sure what I find more offensive... the outcome of these Grazia-esque covers or the fact Edward Enninful has dropped the long-standing tradition of a standalone cover to celebrate the coronation? I'm sat here feeling a little disgruntled.
 
just like all these skinny models who have no talent than just being pretty
But that's what fashion is about and always has been - looking pretty. I don't get why Vogue wants to pretend it's something more than a vanity magazine. Give us fantasy, something one would aspire to become and stop this bullsh*t. Majority of disabled people can't even afford necessary medication.
 
A lot of you guys swear like the disabled folks that advocated for this cover have no agency over this whole issue. And having the word Disabled plastered in the front page is akin to having "the black issue" or "the shape issue." Also, these people don't have to be artists or shelling some product to be featured, just like all these skinny models who have no talent than just being pretty.

But Vogue is (or rather was) a fashion magazine, not any other kind. People used to buy Vogue for beautiful editorials and pictures. Covers were not meant to sell anything like you are implying to. Also, in a broader sense, your comment is annoying. Your generation (I'm assuming you're a 20 year-old person) is all about inclusivity and diversity but when magazines or movies use this, it's not enough and it's considered tokenism.
Where is diversity and inclusivity considered as such? It seems never. Then why bother trying to include and be diverse when people will complain it is not genuine? I miss when fashion was a bit more exclusive
 
But that's what fashion is about and always has been - looking pretty. I don't get why Vogue wants to pretend it's something more than a vanity magazine. Give us fantasy, something one would aspire to become and stop this bullsh*t. Majority of disabled people can't even afford necessary medication.
This is exactly right. Beauty is not as subjective as everyone would like to think it is. And it feels almost like a liability for today's editors to show beauty, as if it isn't appropriate anymore.
 
A lot of you guys swear like the disabled folks that advocated for this cover have no agency over this whole issue. And having the word Disabled plastered in the front page is akin to having "the black issue" or "the shape issue." Also, these people don't have to be artists or shelling some product to be featured, just like all these skinny models who have no talent than just being pretty.
A good model is not justo pretty or shinny . Reflects mood
 
Where is diversity and inclusivity considered as such? It seems never. Then why bother trying to include and be diverse when people will complain it is not genuine? I miss when fashion was a bit more exclusive

True diversity and inclusion isn't pointing out with neon signs and flashing lights about how *DIVERSE* and *INCLUSIVE* you are. Period.
 
Ok, but the people on the covers are making their disability their defining trait now so what do you expect? And also your comment just proves my point. People are never happy.
 
It's insane how disabled folks offend y'all so much if all you see is a political diversity gimmick, and not them as human beings just wanting be visible and heard. And the "beauty" schtick is so tired as that's not even a what people necessarily want anymore. I mean someone as ghastly looking as Jeffree Star can make millions without having to conform to the old standards, and even the most gorgeous models I've hired on shoots have issues booking jobs for being too pretty. It's never that black and white.
 
Ok, but the people on the covers are making their disability their defining trait now so what do you expect? And also your comment just proves my point. People are never happy.

If Vogue was truly inclusive, they would make it a point to include all kinds of people Every. Single. Month. Instead of doing a featured issue that points out IN NEON LIGHTS how they deserve a gold sticker for being inclusive. It's not that it's *never* good enough, it's that this truly ISN'T good enough. Seeing Vogue spin their wheels and pretend to be inclusive is like a kid who's saying "Sowwy for being racist, sexist, prejudiced, classist, etc. I've changed now, pwomise!!! :pleading:" Without actually putting any thought into what true diversity means.
 
I think the sentiment is there and to be applauded, in some ways, but the execution is severely lacking both in the actual visual results but also in the way they went about it.

Give me a beautiful cover with one these, give me amazing fashion and tell their story in the interview, as if they were like anybody else. I can’t help but think this a bull in a China shop approach on how to do this.

Also, why are the past few covers so GLOOMY. It’s supposed to be summer. Give me summer.
 
the coronation is coming up will he cover for charles? or for camila? lol
 
I'm a asperger guy and I always have problems to adapt myself outside. To me, looking at these covers (even ther not new, as I said above, Benetton did it with all the serious topic of society, sometimes with terrible taste) makes me have a conflict myself, if this is insulting (using people with disabilities for the sake of fashion) or is setting a new precedent in society and pop culture. As Justaguy says, it's not a good idea using social issues for seling clothes or having more followers. Every person with disability fights against the world every day with so many things, and they should be respected and celebrated in another way. If you want to be inclusive and talk about reality, don't promote expensive designer clothes that even most of the people with disability can't buy. Put them on the cover, but without all that, just their presence and their statement. Vogue lost it's identity so long ago, so I don't care at this point who scores the cover, but should be nice with all respect talking to society what happens in real world.
 
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