Valentino F/W 2022.23 Paris

[YohjiAddict]

Very unappealing shade, my eyes feel aggravated…at least PP realized that his shows were in serious need of cohesion and tried to do something to correct it, maybe next time it can actually be cohesive and good?

The menswear is so bad, I don’t get why they don’t hire an actual menswear designer, Pierpaolo clearly doesn’t care!

 

[jeanclaude]

"Think Pink!"...except this time the thought process is not available.

 

[Frederic01]

The menswear is so bad, I don’t get why they don’t hire an actual menswear designer, Pierpaolo clearly doesn’t care!

SO TRUE. The menswear gets worse and increasingly less important in the Valentino world with each season. It's an after thought with no real clear or interesting design ethos.

Valentino Menswear under PPP and Maria Grazia was really something interesting. They put genuine effort in those collections and separated it from the womenswear in concept, which I personally thought was good. Combining the shows was a bad decision. Inevitably one side always suffers when that happens and that is clearly what is going on here.

And the whole vibe of the show, the music from In the Mood For Love, the romantic mood, all that exquisite embroidery and volumes of the womenswear which is so grand and Haute, and then you get....men in sweatshirts and puffer jackets and skater shoes? It literally makes no sense. It looks stupide!

Pierpaolo gave up on a menswear a LONG time ago. Around the time he started dressing like an angsty-teenager-from-the-valley-circa-1995. He used to dress with such flair and style. Clearly that had an impact on his designs for menswear for the better. I can't take him seriously looking the way that he does. He's clearly in the depths of some mid life crisis.

 

[YohjiAddict]

"Think Pink!"...except this time the thought process is not available.

Think pink but don’t wear it. - Karl Lagerfeld

At least not as a total look!

 

[Cocteau Stone]

I'll take it that the body inclusivity/positivity of the couture show was just for the couture show...

There's too much pink and only pink. I'd say incorporating some print into this could help but Pierpaolo isn't the best when it comes to prints. At least we don't have to see his poor attempts at "groundbreaking colour blocking" but this is still an eyesore of colour. And can we PLEASE move away from the platform shoe. It's getting rather obnoxious.

 

[ghostwriter10549]

Pink can be a such cheap color and that is case here. The design of the clothes itself doesn't help either, the black pieces are not appealing too and black is friendly high fashion color, so....

 

[WAVES]

I, for once, actually enjoyed the oversaturated use of the pink colour and just that dash of pitch black.
my only issue is that it’s a collection with a little bit of everything but nothing impactful or new.

also, for such a statement of a collection the cast should’ve been much stronger.

 

[reese06]

I'll take it that the body inclusivity/positivity of the couture show was just for the couture show...

There's too much pink and only pink. I'd say incorporating some print into this could help but Pierpaolo isn't the best when it comes to prints. At least we don't have to see his poor attempts at "groundbreaking colour blocking" but this is still an eyesore of colour. And can we PLEASE move away from the platform shoe. It's getting rather obnoxious.

I mean, there was a plus size model in the show. There were models that were older and maybe not your conventional runway models. Is there a quota that he should be hitting?

Their recent “inclusive” campaigns have been a mess

 

[Deleted member 167090]

The Schiaparelli shocking pink!

 

[FashionFanatico]

Pierpaolo gave up on a menswear a LONG time ago. Around the time he started dressing like an angsty-teenager-from-the-valley-circa-1995. He used to dress with such flair and style. Clearly that had an impact on his designs for menswear for the better. I can't take him seriously looking the way that he does. He's clearly in the depths of some mid life crisis.

THIS! He used to be the one of the best dressed Men in the Business himself, now he looks just like a random trendy Wannabe - and so is the menswear he designs. Sad.

 

[andrew]

The menswear is so bad, I don’t get why they don’t hire an actual menswear designer, Pierpaolo clearly doesn’t care!

what, you don't like VLTN plastered all over everything?

 

[Cocteau Stone]

I mean, there was a plus size model in the show. There were models that were older and maybe not your conventional runway models. Is there a quota that he should be hitting?

Their recent “inclusive” campaigns have been a mess

Not really, but after that couture show you would think he would put in a little more effort considering how much it was talked about.

It is also marred by the fact those in the show had difficulty with the shoes which is further fault of Pierpaolo and his team. Hard to look "inclusive" when the models, irregardless of shape, age, looks etc. are struggling. You can't expect the likes of Violeta or Penelope Tree (I believe it is Penelope...) to walk the same was say Mariacarla or Adut. It's happened before with Lauren Hutton at one of the couture shows. Being inclusive means adaptation and doing it well, and Pierpaolo hasn't been able to do that.

 

[LadyJunon]

I mean, there was a plus size model in the show. There were models that were older and maybe not your conventional runway models. Is there a quota that he should be hitting?

The most shameful part of this is that her dress was a near clone of another a sample-sized model wore in the exact same show:

That couture show was a very expensive PR stunt.

 

[Bernie Flood]

So tacky. So cheap. So pedestrian.

And so annoying PPP being inspired by “LOVE.” Gimme a break.

Love and inclusivity

 

[Nomar]

When you've run out of ideas for design so you resort to cheap gimmicks to be 'different'.

 

[Bernie Flood]

Its ihumane that they made Penelope Tree walk in that awful shoes.

she could injured herself

 

[CholoChic]

Too much pink colors gave an headache...

 

[NicholasII]

What an atrocious shade of pink! Viktor&Rolf SS05 did it best.

 

[GivenchyHomme]

What's worse? Pierpaolo Pink collection or Maria Grazia's blue collection?