Victoria Beckham S/S 2020 London

This is quite lovely. I have come to an expectation that VB will never put out original designs. But somehow this feels more closer to the VB before Celine. It's more much feminine with lots of good tailoring. Something that Stella does exceptionally well. I think that area still has more spaces to fill and VB should go for it.
 
Isn't that a bit of a double standard? I mean, you would hardly demand that from any male designer, wouldn't you?
Maybe it’s a double standard. Considering the fact that she is woman designing for woman and wearing her clothes, it would make sense for me that she embodies her brand.
I love Alaia and JWA and they hardly embody their clothes but there’s a vision, a creative gesture behind their stuff.

MGC embody her clothes and I hate her work.

When I look at a VB collection, I want to know right away it’s VB and I don’t get it. But I can totally recognize that her stuff is well made and sellable.
 
Maybe it’s a double standard. Considering the fact that she is woman designing for woman and wearing her clothes, it would make sense for me that she embodies her brand.
I love Alaia and JWA and they hardly embody their clothes but there’s a vision, a creative gesture behind their stuff.

MGC embody her clothes and I hate her work.

When I look at a VB collection, I want to know right away it’s VB and I don’t get it. But I can totally recognize that her stuff is well made and sellable.

I would agree if she did crazy va-va-voom clothes for the runway and step out after the runway in basic clothes but I find it very clear that her style is not particularly channeling and utterly wearable, 'boutique-ready' clothes of a certain polish. I don't think she really think she pretends otherwise, the clothes she puts on the runway are usually exactly what she wears nowadays (although somehow I have this idea she would be more of a Carine-type of femme fatale with black smoke-y eyes because of her Posh Spice background but she made it clear long ago that's not her anymore).
 
It actually vaguely reminds me of a bit a collection Stefano Pilati did for Yves Saint Laurent. SS 2011. But I think it's just in the styling. Joe McKenna did both shows.
 
I would agree if she did crazy va-va-voom clothes for the runway and step out after the runway in basic clothes but I find it very clear that her style is not particularly channeling and utterly wearable, 'boutique-ready' clothes of a certain polish. I don't think she really think she pretends otherwise, the clothes she puts on the runway are usually exactly what she wears nowadays (although somehow I have this idea she would be more of a Carine-type of femme fatale with black smoke-y eyes because of her Posh Spice background but she made it clear long ago that's not her anymore).

Yes the clothes she presents are the clothes she wears but I think she has more personality than her clothes suggest. I was really a fan of her earlier stuff. I started to be totally confused with her FW14 collection.
I think that prior to that collection, her work was really an elevated version of her style and somehow it was a bit aspirational.
I’ve seen her IRL and her allure is still very controlled. So controlled that you could believe it’s an act.
I get that she wanted to separate herself from her other persona but that doesn’t mean that her clothes have to go from totally identifiable as « her » to good or almost generic « nobody ».
This could have been shown by Joseph or any other good brand.
 
Because here "Posh Spice" keeps insisting on being taken seriously as a designer. And no, selling clothes doesn´t make you a designer. No matter how many you sell, if all you do is copying from here and there. There is no design here. Her brand even doesn´t have a style of her own! Even the campaigns were copycats from Céline, for god´s sake!!
I think this is what women want to wear in 2020, she makes clothes for grown-up women, and honestly there are far lesser talented designers out there running big name brands. "Maria *coff* *coff* Chiuri *coff* and also the Olsen Sisters whom I think are very overrated.
 
I think this is what women want to wear in 2020, she makes clothes for grown-up women, and honestly there are far lesser talented designers out there running big name brands. "Maria *coff* *coff* Chiuri *coff* and also the Olsen Sisters whom I think are very overrated.
Their clothing line is overrated I mean, and overpriced as hell! you won't get a blazer for less than 2,000.
 
I like how the tailoring has a very femenine energy, flowing and light. I didn't know Joe McKenna styled her shows, he really does no wrong in my eyes.
 
I think this is what women want to wear in 2020, she makes clothes for grown-up women, and honestly there are far lesser talented designers out there running big name brands. "Maria *coff* *coff* Chiuri *coff* and also the Olsen Sisters whom I think are very overrated.

I agree with you about Chiuri and the Olsens. But that doesn´t change the fact of Posh Spice playing fashion designer season in and season out.

I don´t know if this collection is what women want to wear in 2020. All I know is that women have been wearing these clothes since several years ago (and with some of the looks here, since several decades ago).
 
It's definitely sellable and on brand but nothing revolutionary...then again...no brand for the past decade has put out anything exciting or challenging. As Ruito said, she makes a lot better and more relatable clothes than some designers working at big houses ie MCG and Alessandro etc.
 
I know people like to hate on her for knocking off others work or saying this is Zara but this is very, very good, don't see anything Zara about this , I would wear all of it and in a world without Phoebe she can take my money I am living for many of those outfits. Its actually one of the best shows I have seen this season thus far. These are clothes made for women who have careers yet balance personal lives .

I'm not a fan of her as a designer at all, but even I can admit this is a good collection, and I think it's for the reason you stated that I've bolded. It even has a touch of Lanvin under Alber to it. She should continue to steer this course instead of trying to knock off Phoebe Philo or the Olsen Twins. There's a little less minimalism here, and as a result more fun.
 

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