Vionnet label to be relaunched

oh lord...thanks for the update augustabernard...and welcome to tfs...
 
Originally posted by Augustabernard@Dec 2 2004, 03:14 PM
I have heard that Pecoraro has eventually been discarded and that Zac Posen had been interviewed for the job... He is a devotee of Vionnet and studied Vionnet's dresses at the Costume Institute...
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uh-oh :wacko:
 
Anybody who collaborates with Puff Daddy should not take the reins of a label with a name like Vionnet.

Remember my Schiaparelli post?
 
This is very confusing and tiresome, indeed. :doh:

I thought, Posen was being interviewed for Schiap...? :unsure: :sick:
 
The House of Vionnet will be relaunched next October and Paris rumours say several designers are still considered for the job. According to you, who would make the best job?
 
I m leaving in Paris and trough some friends who are working in fashion I heard that It will not be Zac Posen or pecoraro but maybe Sophia Kokosalaki.

It s quite a good news cause I think that Pecoraro has not the talent to relaunch such a name and maybe Posen is making some nice dresses but that s it.

obviously Kokosalaki is a really talented designer and has a strong technical approach about fashion

so let s see
 
thanks for the topic augustabernard!...great question!

and welcome to you monsieur easyjet!...great to have someone from paris around.

i completely agree with what easyjet said about zac posen...he has done a few good dresses...but he hasen't shown the ability to do much more...

i guess sophia could be a good choice...with all her draping techniques...and she does seem to be a media darling...everyone is pulling for her to get an appointment at a major house..so i am sure she would have a lot of editorial support, which also makes her desirable...

ps-what about patrick robinson...anyone know where he's going?... :flower:
 
I voted for Alaia. Seems like a best fit. Theyskens too, but he's busy with Rochas.
 
But isn't Kokosalaki tapped for the Givenchy stint?

I think Bruno Pieters would make a fabulous choice. But I seriously doubt he'd except considering his very own success right now. Hmmm...very difficult to presume.

Zac Posen though? I'm sorry,but I think the utter mention of him,would tarnish the legacy and reputation of Vionnet. What does he do really? Copy a bunch of vintage pieces? He'd be in the archives sketching detail to detail. No thanks. That'd be an insult,if you ask me.
 
Originally posted by Scott@Dec 3 2004, 11:15 AM
But isn't Kokosalaki tapped for the Givenchy stint?

I think Bruno Pieters would make a fabulous choice. But I seriously doubt he'd except considering his very own success right now. Hmmm...very difficult to presume.

Zac Posen though? I'm sorry,but I think the utter mention of him,would tarnish the legacy and reputation of Vionnet. What does he do really? Copy a bunch of vintage pieces? He'd be in the archives sketching detail to detail. No thanks. That'd be an insult,if you ask me.
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How about Stephen Schneider? Or is he not a big enough name?
 
Its difficult to say. I mean,he does have a great deal of knowledge and technique... but yeah,when it comes to these houses,the majority of them are all looking for what's happening...who's got the attention. And sometimes none of it has to be viable. That said,Bernhard Willhelm was a very surprising choice when Roberto called upon him...so you never know.
 
sophia kokosalaki gets my vote for Vionnet - better fit for her I think than Givenchy
 
Hmmm...Good question...

I think Zak Posen MIGHT be able to do it. He did, after all, study endless Vionnet sketches & dresses while he was studying at the Costume Institute (which, I know, doesnt really mean much when it comes down to it).

Karl Lagerfeld, I think, would be a suitable job. I think his background in fashion, especially couture, would work quite nicely w/ Vionnet, although Vionnet merely acknowledged Coco Chanel as just a hatmaker, so clearly that wont happen. Besides, isn't Karl doing enough? I mean, do we really need to give him yet another reason to make his ego even bigger?
 
pecoraro's probably the pick if the original whispers are to be believed. a revival can't get too big of a name. this job's not high profile enough for karl or tom and zac posen's too busy in bed with p.diddy....(literally, maybe?...:innocent:)
 
I voted for Alaia because his designs are so much about the body and detail....I think it could work if he was at Vionnet.
 
Originally posted by Spike413@Dec 3 2004, 02:00 PM
I voted for Alaia because his designs are so much about the body and detail....I think it could work if he was at Vionnet.
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my thinking exactly.
 
Originally posted by faust@Dec 3 2004, 11:33 AM
How about Stephen Schneider? Or is he not a big enough name?
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i don't even know who that is?... :doh: :ninja:
 
Originally posted by Scott@Dec 3 2004, 11:15 AM
But isn't Kokosalaki tapped for the Givenchy stint?
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it still hasn't been announced scott...the givenchy people attended several shows this season...and my vote for givenchy goes to roland mouret or that other guy...what's his name?...the one lena loves so much that does the immaculate tailoring...

omg...i'm blanking on his name...can someone help me?... :doh: :blush:

anyway...i think sophia would be much more appropriate here at vionnet...

and mike...it seems like the company's changed hands since that first announcement, so it seems likely that they may have picked a different designer...pecorraro seems like an od choice in the first place, no?... :wink: :flower:
 
For your information, more information has been disclosed in an article published in the Italian newspaper MFFashion on November 23, 2004:

Vionnet’s revival in 2005

A foundation presided by Givenchy has organized an exhibition in Paris. The date of inauguration is set for 2 March and will commemorate the 30 years which elapsed since the stylist passed away. Thirty designers are expected to participate in the event. The pret-à-porter collection premieres in October.


March 1975. March 2005. The revival of Madeleine Vionnet comes 30 years after the stylist passed away. The historic Parisian couture maison, purchased in 1988 by the De Lummen family currently directed by president Guy de Lummen has advanced a notable relaunch programme set for upcoming 2 March. Held to commemorating the anniversary of the stylist¹s death this occasion will also feature a comprehensive retrospective show dedicated to the Parisian couturière. Participation will include over 30 internationally acclaimed designers, invited as special guests, to celebrate the newly constituted Madeleine Vionnet Foundation. This however is only the first step. Subsequently, in October, the first prêt-à-porter collection named Vionnet will be unveiled.

Arnaud de Lummen, general manager of the couture house said to MFF, "We firmly believe in this project and are thus undertaking the various sequence of steps devised to respect the background of such a renowned designer house. A few months ago we also inaugurated the Madeleine Vionnet Foundation whose objective is to promote and protect the designer's creative legacy. In particular, its objective is to diffuse and make the spirit of this brand live on". Hubert de Givenchy is going to head the newly constituted foundation becoming its honorary president. Betty Kirke, historic curator of the Fashion Institute of Technology who for over 30 years studied the creations of Vionnet, will instead preside over the scientific committee. The scientific committee also comprises of Madeleine Chapsal and François Lesage who specialises in couture embroidery. The foundation strives to establish a permanent archive centre dedicated to the designer and wishes to promote Vionnet¹s historic evolution. The 2005 initiative arose from this very perspective. Lummen added, "The evening of 2 March, exactly 30 years after madame Vionnet passed away, Paris will debut a significant exhibition recalling her work and creations. The exact location however must still be decided. Thirty 30 designers of international acclaim were invited to pay tribute to Vionnet in their own personal style: be it with the presentation of a dress, a photograph or simply an illustration. All of the above will make up the itinerant exhibition which is expected to be held in Paris for about two months. Subsequently we expect to take the exhibition around the world landing in New York, London and Milan". Top secret are the names of participants. According to indiscretions though some of the designers contacted include such big names like Azzedine Alaïa, John Galliano, Karl Lagerfeld, Miuccia Prada, Jil Sander, Vivienne Westwood and Yohji Yamamoto but even the former Ferragamo stylist Marc Audibet, the Turkish-Cypriot Hussein Chalayan, Sophia Kokosalaki, Stella McCartney, Issey Miyake, Zac Posen, Narciso Rodriguez, Olivier Theyskens and Dries Van Noten. The Italian exponent expected to be involved in the new Vionnet collection is Maurizio Pecoraro. Givenchy himself will design a special gown and will put on show the creation of Cristobal Balenciaga, the Spanish couturier and great friend of Vionnet. In tandem, a prêt-à-porter relaunch project will be carried out. Lummen concluded, "we think that the first collection will be ready in October 2005 and are examining the various alternatives. For the time being a few options have been pinpointed and we are also considering our financial partners in this venture. One firm certainty is that the new collection will retrace the spirit of the last collection Vionnet she had presented in the fall-winter of 1938-1939". Another certitude is that Maurizio Pecoraro might not be the designer involved in the creation of the new Vionnet collection as previously announced . The couture house responds to such query with an outright "No comment". Management initiatives are examining a number of different hypothesis among which that of having an international creative team of which Pecoraro is a part. A second route could be a duo comprising of an artistic director plus a couturier.
 

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