Yasser Arafat Dies At 75

[CelineChic]

Originally posted by kragirl@Nov 11 2004, 04:22 PM
Well, just to let you all know, but I'm sure none are surprised, some of the Palestinians have now launced full-scale attacks against the Israelis in response to Arafat's death and him not allowed to be buried in Juresalem(spelling), but merely in Ramallah

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Good. He deserves to be buried where ever he wished to be buried.

 

[saturnine]

This is certainly what I call Fashion Gossip...

 

[Atelier]

Originally posted by saturnine@Nov 11 2004, 05:33 PM
This is certainly what I call Fashion Gossip...

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[jennifer~]

Originally posted by CelineChic+Nov 11 2004, 03:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CelineChic @ Nov 11 2004, 03:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Good. He deserves to be buried where ever he wished to be buried.

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You beat me to it.

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[lunabella]

has this been said? he died of AIDS.

 

[kragirl]

I heard of that, got to rawstory.com and I think it says something about that..

 

[sugarpea]

Originally posted by PrinceOfCats@Nov 11 2004, 02:47 PM
Sharon blames the Palestinians for supporting terrorism whilst he himself was a terrorist. Look at how many of Sharon's former colleagues were assassinated by British hit-squads and the Israeli helicopter-gunship strikes on Palestinian leaders seem even more ironic.

Arafat is was a decidedly cleaner character than Sharon ever will be...

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i would not call sharon a terrorist....terrorism involves the intentional targeting of civilians as a means to achieving their goals. under this definition, sharon is not a terrorist. that said, i do not see the moral differences between a terrorists' actions and sharon's, one is not worse than the other.

 

[purplelucrezia]

Originally posted by CelineChic@Nov 11 2004, 04:26 PM
Good. He deserves to be buried where ever he wished to be buried.

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So they should be attacking people over it? The reason they couldn't bury him in Jerusaleum was presisely because there would have been too much of an upheaval over the decision. How does hurting more people improve that situation any?

 

[kragirl]

Originally posted by purplelucrezia@Nov 11 2004, 10:21 PM
So they should be attacking people over it? The reason they couldn't bury him in Jerusaleum was presisely because there would have been too much of an upheaval over the decision. How does hurting more people improve that situation any?

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no, of course not, but then again, not everyone thinks like that....

 

[CelineChic]

Originally posted by sugarpea+Nov 11 2004, 09:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sugarpea @ Nov 11 2004, 09:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>i would not call sharon a terrorist....terrorism involves the intentional targeting of civilians as a means to achieving their goals. under this definition, sharon is not a terrorist. that said, i do not see the moral differences between a terrorists' actions and sharon's, one is not worse than the other.

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He actually fits that definition quite well


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So they should be attacking people over it? The reason they couldn't bury him in Jerusaleum was presisely because there would have been too much of an upheaval over the decision. How does hurting more people improve that situation any?

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An upheaval from the Israeli people who cant stand to see non-jews get their dying wish! The man is dead! Burrying him in the ground will hurt NO ONE. SO what is the upheaval about?

They should be attacked for being so disrespectful of a dying mans wish. They've had their way for too long. Remember that Arafat had a quest for peace HENCE his Nobel Peace Prize.

Sharon is a terrorist

 

[jennifer~]

Originally posted by purplelucrezia@Nov 11 2004, 08:21 PM
So they should be attacking people over it? The reason they couldn't bury him in Jerusaleum was presisely because there would have been too much of an upheaval over the decision. How does hurting more people improve that situation any?

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If one is willing to compare the conflict to an 'actual' war... one could view it as a battle being fought.

 

[kragirl]

Originally posted by CelineChic@Nov 11 2004, 10:52 PM
He actually fits that definition quite well
An upheaval from the Israeli people who cant stand to see non-jews get their dying wish! The man is dead! Burrying him in the ground will hurt NO ONE. SO what is the upheaval about?

They should be attacked for being so disrespectful of a dying mans wish. They've had their way for too long. Remember that Arafat had a quest for peace HENCE his Nobel Peace Prize.

Sharon is a terrorist

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True he won the Nobel Peace Prize, but at the same time he supported Saddam in the first gulf war, and there was the peace plan back in '00 will they basically said that he would get at least 97% of the entire west bank/strip, he refused, he wanted more ( the last part a charge heard on fox news ) and that's why his credibility is so-called damaged, other than that, to me he was alright, he just had some unfinished business, very sad though

 

[sugarpea]

celinechic: after winning the peace prize, yasser arafat continued to support suicide bombings...winning the nobel peace prize is an irrelevant sidenote...my point, celinechic, about labeling sharon a terrorist is this...labels mean nothing really. the fact that he is, by definition, NOT a terrorist, does not in any way undermine the terrible things he does. we neednt label him a terrorist to condemn him.


i dont necessarily have an opinion on whether or not arafat should be buried in jerusalem, but the political implications would be devastating..whether or not you want him to buried there, too many israelis would be upset and that would hurt the peace process.

i personally think that arafat was a hindrance to the peace process. sharon is as well. once sharon is gone, perhaps maybe we can have some sort of peace between the two groups

 

[purplelucrezia]

Originally posted by CelineChic@Nov 11 2004, 09:52 PM
An upheaval from the Israeli people who cant stand to see non-jews get their dying wish!

They should be attacked for being so disrespectful of a dying mans wish. They've had their way for too long. Remember that Arafat had a quest for peace HENCE his Nobel Peace Prize.

Sharon is a terrorist

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Oh yes- I know, the evil Israelis totally live to deprive poor, sweet dying men of their last wishes... Be serious here, it's a matter of politics and being safe. Sometimes adorable old men can't get there way if it means that lives will hopefully be saved. There's a much bigger going on than him getting what he wants.

By the way, I totally think that people ought to be killed, so that Arafat can get what he'd have liked. Israel's had its way for way to long, I say that all of the citizens be attacked and gotten rid of. Arafat was such a wonderfully peaceful man, he would definately have wanted that to happen.

 

[CelineChic]

stay in school hun

 

[purplelucrezia]

Originally posted by CelineChic@Nov 11 2004, 10:52 PM
stay in school hun

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Wishing the same for you.

 

[sugarpea]

Originally posted by CelineChic@Nov 11 2004, 10:52 PM
stay in school hun

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celinechic...do you at least understand my point? im not here to badger you or anyone...my point was that from a philosophical standpoint, i see no difference, in terms of morality, between the PLO's terrorism and the governmental activity of israel...for this reason, just because i do not refer to sharon as a terrorist, does not mean that i do not condemn his behavior...in many ways, i think we agree...i just dont think it is right to call sharon a terrorist...especially if you want to have your points taken seriously...it suggests a lack of understanding of international relations.

 

[Deleted member 1957]

actually i didnt mind him at all. let him rest in peace after a very stressful life. at least he deserves it.

 

[oanadobre]

Is anybody watching CNN? They are fighting over his coffin!!!!

 

[oanadobre]

God Almighty (whatever your name is) I'm afraid they will open the coffin!