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Personally I think overpopulation will be one of the key elements in the end of the world. There are so many babies being born each day and so many poor people still think that having lots and lots of children will help in getting them out of poverty. That, and most of the resources go to people who don't need them as much as others do...

Warfare and all the natural disasters worry me too. You never really know what's going to happen...
 
This is our planet, we are of this planet and although we are something of a parasite I believe that no matter what happens, Mother Earth will find a way to sustain us. Even if that means creating zombies who feast on human flesh to cull the numbers a bit.
 
I believe that overpopulation is the biggest issue - yet it's probably the most difficult one to tackle, because who gets to make the rules? Who gets to dictate the beginning and end of human life?

And even in societies where deliberate restrictions on reproduction are well-established and seem to work, it creates new issues that need answered, such as skewed ratios of sons/daughters.

Yet if we don't tackle the subject, then nature certainly will, because no matter how advanced we think we are, we're not above disease, famines and disasters. We can exploit the environment, but on a deeper level, it'll always retain the ability to cut us down to size in the end.
 
Survival Kit

Recommended Items to Include in a Basic Emergency Supply Kits:

-Water, one gallon of water per person per day for at least three days, for drinking and sanitation

-Food, at least a three-day supply of non-perishable food

-Battery-powered or hand crank radio and a NOAA Weather Radio with tone alert and extra batteries for both

-Flashlight and extra batteries

-First aid kit

-Whistle to signal for help

-Dust mask, to help filter contaminated air and plastic sheeting and duct tape to shelter-in-place

-Moist towelettes, garbage bags and plastic ties for personal sanitation

-Wrench or pliers to turn off utilities

-Can opener for food (if kit contains canned food)

-Local maps


Additional Items to Consider Adding to an Emergency Supply Kit:

-Prescription medications and glasses

-Infant formula and diapers

-Pet food and extra water for your pet

-Important family documents such as copies of insurance policies, identification and bank account records in a waterproof, portable container

-Cash or traveler's checks and change

-Emergency reference material such as a first aid book survival manuals

-Sleeping bag or warm blanket for each person. Consider additional bedding if you live in a cold-weather climate.

-Complete change of clothing including a long sleeved shirt, long pants and sturdy shoes. Consider additional clothing if you live in a cold-weather climate.

-Household chlorine bleach and medicine dropper – When diluted nine parts water to one part bleach, bleach can be used as a disinfectant. Or in an emergency, you can use it to treat water by using 16 drops of regular household liquid bleach per gallon of water. Do not use scented, color safe or bleaches with added cleaners.

-Fire Extinguisher

-Matches in a waterproof container

-Feminine supplies and personal hygiene items

-Mess kits, paper cups, plates and plastic utensils, paper towels-Paper and pencil

-Books, games, puzzles or other activities for children


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These items are great for a basic kit. Creating an emergency survival with these supplies would be great for smaller S 1 or maybe even S 2 zombie emergencies. These are usually caused by a low grade zombie and everything is usually controlled and back to normal after a few days. Just board up your windows and doors and wait it out.In larger zombie outbreaks or outbreaks caused by higher grade zombies, the situation gets dramatically worse. It is unlikely that a small survival kit is enough to handle a large zombie up rising. A larger stash would allow you to last quite a bit longer check out the under siege section for more details. Most likely unless you have a self sustaining fortress you will need to Transport to a safer location.



-- zombiehub.com
 
I believe that overpopulation is the biggest issue - yet it's probably the most difficult one to tackle, because who gets to make the rules? Who gets to dictate the beginning and end of human life?

And even in societies where deliberate restrictions on reproduction are well-established and seem to work, it creates new issues that need answered, such as skewed ratios of sons/daughters.

Yet if we don't tackle the subject, then nature certainly will, because no matter how advanced we think we are, we're not above disease, famines and disasters. We can exploit the environment, but on a deeper level, it'll always retain the ability to cut us down to size in the end.

I agree. No matter how in-control we think we are, nature always comes out on top and kicks our as$es. I wonder if the atmosphere will become too weak to protect us from the sun's rays and eventually sizzle us like the miserable sausages that we are.
 
Personally I think overpopulation will be one of the key elements in the end of the world. There are so many babies being born each day and so many poor people still think that having lots and lots of children will help in getting them out of poverty. ...

you hit the mark.
 
This is our planet, we are of this planet and although we are something of a parasite I believe that no matter what happens, Mother Earth will find a way to sustain us. Even if that means creating zombies who feast on human flesh to cull the numbers a bit.

Yes, there's always something to cull the numbers ... right now we have the AIDS pandemic ... back in the day, bubonic plague. And of course all these natural disasters are doing a bit of culling ... Infant mortality seems to always be with us. I saw a really disturbing picture (from Doctors without Borders I think) of a very well-fed mother who brought in her starving child. Now maybe there was a reasonable explanation for that, but it sure looked strange to me. She didn't look like a zombie, but perhaps ...

Education for women is a guaranteed way to curb population explosion--it has basically a 100% success rate. Far better than government mandates IMHO.
 
Time ago I read a column by a writer called Hector Abad for Vanity Fair's magazine, in the text he talk about how the planet Earth, from a cosmic viewpoint, brings the plague to control overpopulation. The speech also says that the appearance of scientific culture is opposed to this "divine order", whose purpose is to eliminate some of the most deadly virus that affect the men. The article is interesting, was written at the time in which the H1N1 virus was in full swing, I hope to post the translation soon.

Someone read about the Gaia hypothesis? The Earth has a self-regulating body in charge of preserving life. I guess that Abad was referring to writing the text, and although he spoke of the plague, I think it can be extended to natural disasters. We are a lot of people, and we'll be more. Sometimes I think humans are the virus of the Earth, and it must defended itself, and although it is sad for us, nature always wins.
 
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Time ago I read a column by a writer called Hector Abad for Vanity Fair's magazine, in the text he talk about how the planet Earth, from a cosmic viewpoint, brings the plague to control overpopulation. The speech also says that the appearance of scientific culture is opposed to this "divine order", whose purpose is to eliminate some of the most deadly virus that affect the men. The article is interesting, was written at the time in which the H1N1 virus was in full swing, I hope to post the translation soon.

Someone read about the Gaia hypothesis? The Earth has a self-regulating body in charge of preserving life. I guess that Abad was referring to writing the text, and although he spoke of the plague, I think it can be extended to natural disasters. We are a lot of people, and we'll be more. Sometimes I think humans are the virus of the Earth, and it must defended itself, and although it is sad for us, nature always wins.

And yet, science is a product of human brains, which are part of nature.
 
A lot of people seem scared of science - as in theories based on science opposing divine order (how medieval) and so on. Ignorance :innocent:
 
iluvjeisa
Yes, it's interesting what you say. I guess things are as they had to be from the beginning of life, at least on Earth, the question is if this will end in our destruction or in an advanced state of peace and prosperity, as argued by the Mayan prophecies.

A lot of people seem scared of science - as in theories based on science opposing divine order (how medieval) and so on. Ignorance :innocent:

I don't know if you mean in a personal way to what I wrote, but I never complained or showed any fear of science and neither the writer of the text, here I leave the translation to judge it for yourself, the text was wrote for the Spain edition of Vanity Fair, November issue 2009.

If the traduction goes wrong, my apologies, my english is not the best.


'CARPE DIEM'


The writer Hector Abad claimed the enjoyment from the threat of influenza AH1N1.

If you think in the abstract, from a cosmic viewpoint, the pestilence may be a cyclical event suitable for controlling the surplus population. This would something natural, what always happened in the history of the world, at least until the rise of scientific culture opposed to this kind of divine order that is die infected, and that for our specie is a tragedy. Because if you think it would be no evil streak for the ecology of the planet (to global warming, to the availability of food), that suddenly dies a ten percent less than human beings, in theory the thing is acceptable, especially if we not know of any person from among those 700 million people. If the death occurs in Africa, the Amazon, or even among the thousands of retired Europeans, okay. But if somebody say that among them is our brother or our daughter, things become much less acceptable.

The greatest threat to our optimistic view of our medic vision of life, which consists of trust in science, with the hope that medicine will always fight the disease, is in the new virus. AIDS was a big problem for the trust, but lately, with cocktails of antiviral drugs, the life of HIV-positive (at least in rich countries) can be prolonged and the disease becomes a kind of latency that is similar to normal. But in some corners of the world have appeared devastating viruses like Ebola in Congo or bird flu in a remote province of China. The mortality of avian influenza was very high, 33% in some cases, and Ebola hemorrhagic fever, dies at 90% of those infected.

Chances are that the new flu, or H1N1 flu, don't be more lethal than the influenza of every winter. However, it has had and has the merit of make us to think and discuss. But there is simply the strange fascination that makes us any new disease. Even humans grown in the scientific era make us realize of our fragility. We know that is deadly, very deadly and any new threat reminds us of the past, the recent past in that smallpox, cholera or the Spanish flu decimated the population.

Another thing that alarms us and fascinate us (with the fascination of fear, horror) in this new virus, is that the young are more susceptible than older, perhaps because the latter have been more exposed to viral strains similar to the silent but H1N1 flu. The fact that the new flu kill people under 30 years increases the sense of tragedy, of apprehension.

Do not greet with a kiss, wear a mask, cough into the handkerchief or the inner fold of the elbow, wary of sneezing in the street or in subways, wash hands as often, compulsive like Lady Macbeth, are the new habits suggested by epidemiologists.

But there are also other behaviors that are spontaneous in times of pestilence. These remind me of that song goliardic of medieval tradition: "Today we eat and drink / and sing and baggy / 'cause tomorrow we'll die."The proximity of death, a feeling of precariousness of existence, produced a paradoxical attachment to life, a yearning to get here and now, with its moderate honey, its greedy delight.Death is our greatest misfortune, but is awareness of impending death what drives us to carpe diem, to seize the fleeting moment in that we have the sort of go through the Earth, be aware that we alive and that certain pleasures and ephemeral precarious are possible, wich means, urgent.
 
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<p>this sat is the end of the world!!</p>
<p>so enjoy the last day</p>
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The Center for Disease Control (CDC) has some helpful advice:

Once you’ve made your emergency kit, you should sit down with your family and come up with an emergency plan. This includes where you would go and who you would call if zombies started appearing outside your door step. You can also implement this plan if there is a flood, earthquake, or other emergency.
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    Family members meeting by their mailbox. You should pick two meeting places, one close to your home and one farther away.
  2. Identify the types of emergencies that are possible in your area. Besides a zombie apocalypse, this may include floods, tornadoes, or earthquakes. If you are unsure contact your local Red Cross chapter for more information. Family members meeting by their mailbox. You should pick two meeting places, one close to your home and one farther away
  3. Pick a meeting place for your family to regroup in case zombies invade your home…or your town evacuates because of a hurricane. Pick one place right outside your home for sudden emergencies and one place outside of your neighborhood in case you are unable to return home right away.
  4. Identify your emergency contacts. Make a list of local contacts like the police, fire department, and your local zombie response team. Also identify an out-of-state contact that you can call during an emergency to let the rest of your family know you are ok.
  5. Plan your evacuation route. When zombies are hungry they won’t stop until they get food (i.e., brains), which means you need to get out of town fast! Plan where you would go and multiple routes you would take ahead of time so that the flesh eaters don’t have a chance! This is also helpful when natural disasters strike and you have to take shelter fast.
Never Fear – CDC is Ready
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Get a Kit, Make a Plan, Be Prepared

If zombies did start roaming the streets, CDC would conduct an investigation much like any other disease outbreak. CDC would provide technical assistance to cities, states, or international partners dealing with a zombie infestation. This assistance might include consultation, lab testing and analysis, patient management and care, tracking of contacts, and infection control (including isolation and quarantine). It’s likely that an investigation of this scenario would seek to accomplish several goals: determine the cause of the illness, the source of the infection/virus/toxin, learn how it is transmitted and how readily it is spread, how to break the cycle of transmission and thus prevent further cases, and how patients can best be treated. Not only would scientists be working to identify the cause and cure of the zombie outbreak, but CDC and other federal agencies would send medical teams and first responders to help those in affected areas (I will be volunteering the young nameless disease detectives for the field work). To learn more about what CDC does to prepare for and respond to emergencies of all kinds, visit:
http://emergency.cdc.gov/cdc/orgs_progs.asp
To learn more about how you can prepare for and stay safe during an emergency visit:
http://emergency.cdc.gov/
To download a badge like the one above that you can add to your social networking profile, blog, website, or email signature visit:
http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies.asp

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If zombies did start roaming the streets, CDC would conduct an investigation much like any other disease outbreak. CDC would provide technical assistance to cities, states, or international partners dealing with a zombie infestation.

The zombies are already here & roaming the streets.
 
alonsoJonathan, a doomsday cult has purchased the rights for numerous billboards around my city proclaiming the end of the world to be saturday. they are in every state except for new mexico. :flower:
 
Haven't seen any billboards here ... I suppose it's good for the economy :rolleyes: I heard there are people quitting their jobs based on the 'news' ... I assume they wanted to quit and this is their excuse :lol: I bet their bosses are waiting with interest to see what they do next Monday morning. Personally I wouldn't want to make a prediction like this and end up looking like a total jacka$$, but apparently that doesn't bother some people :innocent: I heard they predicted the end of the world back in '94 as well.
 
Harold Camping says it'll end on Saturday.

The 2011 end times prediction made by Christian radio host Harold Camping states that the Rapture (in premillennial theology, the taking up into heaven of God's elect people) will take place on May 21, 2011 at 6 P.M. local time (the rapture will sweep the globe time zone by time zone) and that the end of the world as we know it will take place five months later on October 21, 2011. Camping, president of the Family Radio Christian network, claims the Bible as his source and says May 21 will be the date of the Rapture and the day of judgment "beyond the shadow of a doubt". His followers claim that around 200 million people (approximately 3% of the world's population) will be raptured.
Camping's predictions have not been embraced by most other Christian groups; some have explicitly rejected them. An interview with a group of church leaders noted that all of them have scheduled services as usual for Sunday, May 22. Camping previously claimed that the world would end in September 1994.

:rolleyes:
 
^ Has this delightful individual explained how he screwed up in '94 and why he's sure he hasn't this time? I'm slightly interested to know how he got to 200 million.

I'm sure this guy is one of the ones who'd tell you the world began at 9 am 6000 years ago.

See you guys here Saturday at 6:01, as well as all day Oct 22 ;)

Actually, I wish it were true ... I'd personally love to be rid of about 200 million narrow-minded cranks :lol: Maybe those of us who've been living right could nominate a few people to be 'raptured' ;) I'm ready to vote ...
 
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