A New Fashion Generation

[Salvatore]

I think Alexander McQueen will get a lot more attention. He makes clothes move so beautifully!

 

[Spike413]

Originally posted by softgrey@May 22nd, 2004 - 6:48 pm
now linda on the other hand...

Now you're talkin. Except now, I hope the fee for getting out of bed will be higher, ten grand isn't much anymore, I mean, with the price of cigarettes constantly being raised, $10,000 can go quick for models.

 

[Spike413]

extra post, whoops

 

[ultramarine]

Well... on every season we hear about new hordes of hot designers (at least on the NY scene -and London) ... season after season there have been new names tossed ... Zac Posen, Proenza Schouler, Miguel Adrover, IOC ... the secret is to stay empowered and keep delivering ... lack of originality? maybe that's why it doesn't happen ..but to become a renowned brand name you need to have a signature look/style ... and in a way, it's hard to pull that when a designer label its in diapers

 

[versace]

I'm not anxious to see the next designers as I think those designers that you mentioned Donatella/Ford/ Lagerfeld/McQueen & Galliano are doing a brilliant job at the present moment. I'm more anxious to see what these designers (not Tom nemore so dont correct me) will do next season and wait with anticipation all the time!

 

[ignitioned32]

The 'New Generation' will definetly be coming in about 5 to 10 years. It has to do with time, as we all know. Or even earlier since everyone is always on the look out for new talent each season, hence (to quote blu) the hype around Adrover, IOC, the 'New Three' (as known is some NY circles Zac, Behnaz and Proenza S. Am I anxious? To be honest, not really. 'Cause I'm taking matters in my own hand.

 

[Lena]

Originally posted by Mutterlein@May 23rd, 2004 - 3:02 am
I agree with orochian about bailey. I definately expect him to be a promiment figure in the future (if not now).

i also agree on Bailey, there is something in his designs.

as for the super ego/ flashy lifestyle kind of 'designer'.
excuses but i find both very 'old' and 'boring' attitudes
it is such a thing of the past, very 80s kind of glam

i see the new fashion design stars being much more close to their work
and concentrate more on amazing clothes than anything else.
for me Alber Elbaz is a 'new' fashion star, Hedi Slimane, Ralf Rucci
a new breed of 'real' designers that focus more on their work
than their ego.

fashion is not a reality show on tv, fashion is amazing clothes being created.
super egos make me laugh, they are so NOT modern..

and yes Dirk S. like most of today's 'fresh European designers'
is certainly not interested in focusing on becoming the new 'superstar'
he's far too busy creating great collections and getting rave reviews.

 

[ignitioned32]

Agree with Lena 100%. Egos are so 80's and not modern.

 

[ultramarine]

Originally posted by ignitioned32@May 23rd, 2004 - 4:01 am
Agree with Lena 100%. Egos are so 80's and not modern.

Halston may be rolling in his grave!

 

[Lena]

Halston was great for his time, both for his design and his lifestyle,
but times are changing 30 years later, its kind of sad for people to look up
to 'good old glam' and try to re-make it.

its like trying to re-capture the glory of studio54
erhhh fat chance + what for ???
fashion moves ON

 

[ultramarine]

Oh! I totally agree, Le!
I just wanted to be a bit poignant making a comment on how Halston referred to himself on the third person and his excess on men & coke ...
But you're correct ... the thing's in a way it seems too soon. To me, I'm still waiting for that "new shape" or whatever we're looking for on a raising and staying talent.
We long for the new.


PS. I've always like C. Bailey .. I'm afraid I've been drawn to him mostly cuz I'm physically attracted to him -on the beggining-, but I've been able to detach myself and see what he's done for Burberry ... it'll be very interesting to see something more of his ...err...own.

 

[mikeijames]

Originally posted by Lena@May 23rd, 2004 - 5:07 am
Halston was great for his time, both for his design and his lifestyle,
but times are changing 30 years later, its kind of sad for people to look up
to 'good old glam' and try to re-make it.

its like trying to re-capture the glory of studio54
erhhh fat chance + what for ???
fashion moves ON

i agree with the original post. fashion is about nothing if not luxury and decadence...and in our society of the celebrity-obsessed, there need to be wholefully eccentric, elitist characters that can catch and hold the public's eye and draw their attention to fashion. (case in point: as much as i hate him, the reason steve cojocaru has a job is because he is sort of a strange fashion hybrid...i say the same for the anna wintours, tom fords, and even jil sanders of the world, their strong personalities keep them relevant)

 

[softgrey]

Originally posted by softgrey@May 22nd, 2004 - 6:45 pm


None of these designers is striving to become the next enfant terrible of fashion. They are not plagued by rumors of illicit or raucous behavior, ... The work of these designers is more uptown than downtown. It is polished and sophisticated, unconcerned with signifying detached cool or displaying self-conscious ugliness. Mostly these designers are creating elegant clothes with the potential for broad appeal.

This is welcome news to an industry fixated on a handful of designers who have become set in their ways. None of these newer talents has yet become a "personality" or a brand.

For the time being, attention is focused on the clothes above all else. In time, one or more of them may emerge as bona fide stars, able to draw attention to the industry by force of charisma. That, too, is important.

But before fashion can worry about the stardust, it needs to make sure that its foundation is sound.

since it would appear that no one read the article i posted...i am forced to quote myself...i think that some excerpts from this article are spot on and all you aspiring designers out there should take note...

it will be hard to launch anyone new for awhile...because it costs a lot of money to produce a collection and then a show a and then hire a pr firm...a sales staff...etc...

and with so many companies in the red right now ...and the only company i've heard of showing profit being the gap...who will be prepared to take that risk...we're talking about huge sums of cash...fashion is a very risky proposition these days...

Lena's right ...that the eighties are over...and so are the nineties for that matter...we will find a new way going forward...

 

[Deleted member 4737]

it will be hard to launch anyone new for awhile...because it costs a lot of money to produce a collection and then a show a and then hire a pr firm...a sales staff...etc...

and with so many companies in the red right now ...and the only company i've heard of showing profit being the gap...who will be prepared to take that risk...we're talking about huge sums of cash...fashion is a very risky proposition these days...

Lena's right ...that the eighties are over...and so are the nineties for that matter...we will find a new way going forward...

I agree, sometime's I think fashion should be stripped of everything else it has become today...It's not enough to design a stellar collection, now you must have a killer ad campaign along with celebs at your show (in some cases) to pull in major attention...Of course that does not apply to every designer in the world, but it certainly helps...

 

[Scott]

I agree completely with Miss L*.

To be honest,with the Japanese and the Belgians paving the way in the 80's and 90's,its given an entirely different platform for introverted fashion/style visionaires. Just as Dirk Schonberger.

 

[Acid]

Originally posted by Lena@May 23rd, 2004 - 8:32 am
as for the super ego/ flashy lifestyle kind of 'designer'.
excuses but i find both very 'old' and 'boring' attitudes
it is such a thing of the past, very 80s kind of glam

but Lena, that is what makes fashion so interesting. plus what is wrong with good designers admitting that they are the best

you have to admit that people like Karl and Vivienne who say crazy things make us laugh. maybe it was very 80's but it doesnt mean nobody else can ever be like this again.........what will happen when this 'modern' of today is passe B)

 

[Spike413]

I think fashion needs a mix of designers who are very out there and somewhat egotistical (ex. Karl) and those who are very understated and approachable (ex Yohji) Fashion is essentially a creative world, and in my experience, any area of creativity (art, film etc.) there is a wide variety of personalities, and for better or worse, some of those creative minds either have or develop egos. I think it's natural, to a degree, some people just have it in them, others don't. At the very least, it makes fashion a little bit entertaining.

 

[Spike413]

Double post........

 

[nycgirl84]

I read the article, Softgrey, and I thought it was spot-on! Thank you for posting it!

 

[softgrey]

...my pleasure...