Ann Sofie-Back Fall 2005 London

[faust]

What you pointed out Mr. Dale,all is indeed her signature. She's got this sort of a political ambivalence towards,as she calls it,"designer toilet paper". And its turned into her aesthetic.

I've read that somewhere! Don't remember where, though. In any case, does her aesthetic turn into low pricepoints?

 

[Estella*]

ha, i think it's even brave. it reminds me of those i-D issues from the eighties where london kids would show their selfmade clothes.

 

[metal-on-metal]

We discussed her at length in her thread last season, I think. To me, she's no better than the Subkoffs, Rzepskis, and As Fours of the world. It's so easy to be anti- something. Anti-fashion, anti-glamour, anti-establishment. But then where do you go from there?

It's so easy to say 'ok, I'm gonna look at the world and take the most unflattering, ugly sh*t and send it down a runway. Then I'm gonna develop a theory around it and roll my eyes at those that don't get it--i.e., refuse to accept my garbage as politically-charged, avant-garde fashion'. Well I'm sorry but I'm not afraid to call this girl out on her bullsh*t. This is the kind of stuff most designers get out of their systems in art/design school. I don't see why she wastes our time or hers. If she wants to make a statement about feminism, money-culture, luxury, or the fashion system, that's fine. But she can do that in a gallery and not in a way that stakes her claim as a real designer. That she is not.

Apologies to Scott and space. I know you two like her but I really just don't see it.

 

[faust]

We discussed her at length in her thread last season, I think. To me, she's no better than the Subkoffs, Rzepskis, and As Fours of the world. It's so easy to be anti- something. Anti-fashion, anti-glamour, anti-establishment. But then where do you go from there?

It's so easy to say 'ok, I'm gonna look at the world and take the most unflattering, ugly sh*t and send it down a runway. Then I'm gonna develop a theory around it and roll my eyes at those that don't get it--i.e., refuse to accept my garbage as politically-charged, avant-garde fashion'. Well I'm sorry but I'm not afraid to call this girl out on her bullsh*t. This is the kind of stuff most designers get out of their systems in art/design school. I don't see why she wastes our time or hers. If she wants to make a statement about feminism, money-culture, luxury, or the fashion system, that's fine. But she can do that in a gallery and not in a way that stakes her claim as a real designer. That she is not.

Apologies to Scott and space. I know you two like her but I really just don't see it.

The question is, how do they stay in business? Someone must be buying it, no? Or are they just very rich? Wouldn't that be a hypocrisy?

 

[softgrey]

freaking awful...i echo metal's statement...she's not sucking me into her bullsh*t...

and i think about the waste of money to make these samples and put on this show...i don't whose money she's wasting...but speaking of toilet paper...well you might as well use the money for this show as toilet paper because it's being completley flushed down the toilet imho...

what a freaking insult to women that she should suggest that they put on this shite!!...
might as well suggest that they smear themselves with feces...

anti fashion is martin margiela or cdg or hussein chalayan...how can someone like this put themselves in the same category as talent of that magnitude...i find it offensive that anyone would suggest that women actually dress this way on the street...that is just so ego-driven...anyone who cared a bit about women would try to find a way to help them feel good about themselves...not 'like ***'...as droogist so eloquently put it...

this annnoys me too much really...

 

[faust]

WTF is this?

 

[metal-on-metal]

WTF is this?

Oh, faust! You're so stupid! Don't you get it? It's ugly fashion! I made it that way. Please buy it for your wife. Only $3500. Thanks!

Love,
Ann-Sofie

 

[faust]

Oh, faust! You're so stupid! Don't you get it? It's ugly fashion! I made it that way. Please buy it for your wife. Only $3500. Thanks!

Love,
Ann-Sofie

Oooooooooooooohhh!!! Do you take Mastercard?!

 

[metal-on-metal]

No, only Discover. It's more avant-garde.

 

[birdofparadise]

I don't really see what's 'avant-garde' about it, actually. A lot of the effect is in the styling and choice of models. Beyond those choices, it seems the clothes are down to earth. There isn't anything particularly intellectual about her design if intellect is valid. The trench with the plaid chest piece is interesting.

 

[Scott]

The question is, how do they stay in business? Someone must be buying it, no? Or are they just very rich? Wouldn't that be a hypocrisy?

Actually,unsurprisingly of course,she's got a large fanbase in Japan and she sells to a couple select shops in Paris and also Walter in Antwerp. Perhaps the reason she can continue designing.

No Metal,I respect your opinion completely. I know its not something everybody is going to henceforth toward with enthusiasm.

 

[metal-on-metal]

^ Well, the Japanese will buy anything if it's ugly enough. And this certainly fits the bill.

 

[Spacemiu]

^ Well, the Japanese will buy anything if it's ugly enough. And this certainly fits the bill.

oh come on that is rude and racist.

I certinly respect your opinion, and I understand where you are coming from, even though i disagree. But that is uncalled for.

 

[Scott]

Metal,I assume you've seen her stuff in person at Seven,no? Before they stopped buying her stuff,that is.

Actually apart,I found alot of the pieces quite interesting and even quite easy to mix with other things.

 

[saturnine]

Well said Metal and Softgrey.

 

[metal-on-metal]

oh come on that is rude and racist.

No, it's just the truth. I'm not shocked at all that Ann-Sofie is big in Japan. Makes a lot of sense, actually.

Scott, I never saw her stuff at Seven. When did they carry it? Must've been quite awhile ago.

My main issue with her is not even really the clothes. It's the sheer ego and pretension and the amateurish art-school belief that the opposite of the accepted is immediately cool and brilliant. It's not that easy.

 

[softgrey]

Well said Metal and Softgrey.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

it's kinda ugly. I don't like it.

 

[AlexN]

Bravo, Metal.

 

[Mis.T]

Oh my, the clothes look extremely badly designed for the body, the pants made me cry. And what’s worse I have also seen people in the streets wearing these pants.

Don’t enhance the beautiful curves of your body, make them gross and while your at it pay lots of money to look like you have none.



Wow I didn’t know I was capable of such a bitchy post